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Jacob85 09-26-2022 07:19 AM
It’s is so stupid these people start hoarding when if everyone bought what they needed there would. be enough for everyone

Rainger99 09-26-2022 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by nancyre (Post 2140035)
Fill a bathtub with water for flushing if the pumping stations lose power.
I have last power numerous times up north - sometimes for days - but the toilets always worked. Do toilets need electrical power in The Villages?

PugMom 09-26-2022 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2140037)
Coastal areas should be better prepared than inland where we are. No?
one would assume so, @ least, let's hope they are

PugMom 09-26-2022 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Jacob85 (Post 2140064)
It’s is so stupid these people start hoarding when if everyone bought what they needed there would. be enough for everyone
ever since the covid experience, i have stocked xtra supplies of this sort in the closet. i don't need to shop or hoard, i must have 6 CASES of tp on hand anyway, LOL. also, am willing to share should someone need supplies. let's hope this passes us over & we live happily ever after 😉

Regorp 09-26-2022 08:11 AM
Hurricane
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2139799)
This will be my first hurricane (if it hits us).

Before I moved here, I would always see news reports of hurricane prep with people boarding up windows and putting sandbags down.

Do people here board up windows or place sandbags around their homes? Or is that just on the coast?

Should I be watching football this afternoon or getting the house ready? Thanks.
Being from New England we are used to gloom and doom forecasts of hurricane and nor'easters. Batten down the hatches and watch it veer away, leaving us safe and sound.

walterray1 09-26-2022 08:12 AM
Rope?

NotGolfer 09-26-2022 08:15 AM
We were here for Michael (Atlantic side) and had some wind and rain....nothing too bad. Irma came right over us---sounded bad etc. Some areas had flooding and damage but it was scattered. Folks in the newer area never lost power (at least we didn't). Little damage was done---a couple of shrubs blew over but we "righted" them and they're healthy. A bit of siding flew off but got re-attached later. Yes, be sure to bring in outside items. Just use common sense. I try to stay away from constant weather news---just check on progress is all. The media feeds into the frenzy. Yes, we can get affects of the storm but I'd rather live here than on any of the coast(s).

I went out early this morning to the store (7:30 a.m./Monday)---went to Trailwinds Publix and it was busy but not crazy---yet. One thing though, ALL of their coolers were either empty or roped off supposedly because a generator had ceased on them. So 1/2 my list didn't get bought. By the time I got finished I just came home. Didn't want to go to another store because by that time traffic was denser and I figure that store would be crazy/busy. I'll take my chances and do it later on.

drstevens 09-26-2022 08:55 AM
Video record
 
Make a video of the inside of your house for insurance purposes. Store in a secure place.

DAVES 09-26-2022 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 2139922)
I remember all the help you gave me to select the correct generator for cases like this. Well, I was injured about 2 years ago and the last thing on my mind was my pristine generator. It's a big paperweight. I was great with small engines when I was youngin so I'm going out this very moment to give it a shot. I just wanna save the food and put in a window A/C and run the Cpap. Staying alive is sorta important.

I never gave the generator a second thought. I walk past it several times a day. I guess that's why we have so many memory centers around here. I'm not like that, it's rough to admit but I really goofed up this time.
Far as a generator, the engine is slightly different then they used to be but still the same.
It likely has electronic ignition no longer use points. If, you have compression, spark and gas it should run. Fuel in tank? If old fuel no need to remove the tank, you can suck the fuel out with a turkey baster kind of thing. There are hand pumps-no need unless you already have one. With fresh fuel, if it doesn't at least fire and stop, take the plug out.
If, it is wet with fuel, touch the plug to the block, pull the starter cord-it is easy as there is no compression with the plug out. You should see a BRIGHT spark. Look on U TUBE.
Surely you will find cures for most everything. Everthing except getting older.

daniel200 09-26-2022 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Toymeister (Post 2139918)
I was in an area that had some cluster tornados which took lives, property and a series of high tension power towers leaving hundreds of thousands without power for six days.

I can assure that you will have water as the water in the towers provide water by gravity.

Based upon that experience I have the same level of preparedness now as I did then.

1. One dozen MREs
2. 1,000 watt generator
3. 2,500 watt generator
4. Vehicles and cart with full tanks
5. Ten gallons of gasoline

What actually happened to us..

Power went out leaving us in darkness,with storm raging. My daughter and wife looked at me with fear in their eyes. 'Lets have a hot dinner before I get the TV and Internet up'. In that moment they thought that I was mentally ill.

The 1000 genny gives you: Internet, TV, fans, fridge, microwave and if you have a tankless water heater, hot water. It was like camping in a very nice pop-up with electric.

The larger genny will run a small ac unit but uses more fuel.

In my situation few neighbors purchased huge gennys from out of state but they fell silent when they couldn't keep up with their voracious fuel needs.

This should give you some idea if you think ahead you can be well prepared.

As I write this I fully expect some Google powered expert will post some link how this many electronic devices can be powered by such a small generator. I can assure that this is not the case. Certainly we did have inconvenience but we had ample comforts to be comfy with out the huge expense of a whole home generator.
Just curious how this is setup. Do you run the generator outside? From what I understand the fumes make them unsafe to run in your garage. How do you get power from the generator to your different devices without leaving the doors open?

Toymeister 09-26-2022 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by midiwiz (Post 2140055)
7. If you have underground power lines - you do not need a generator. IF (big if) you lose power it will be only a hours just don't open the fridge and freezer a lot.
A common, inaccurate, assumption.
ALL POWER, 100%, is supplied by overhead wires. In The Villages, the final portion is underground, 100s of miles before that point are overhead wires.

OrangeBlossomBaby 09-26-2022 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Regorp (Post 2140083)
Being from New England we are used to gloom and doom forecasts of hurricane and nor'easters. Batten down the hatches and watch it veer away, leaving us safe and sound.
Except that one time when it didn't leave us safe and sound. In Boston, I was fine. Back home in CT, we lost two trees, a corner of our garage, had some flood damage to the kitchen and the guest bedroom wall, and several broken/missing roof shingles. We were the lucky ones in the neighborhood. The house across the street ended up with a windowless skylight into most of their second floor when the roof peeled back like a sardine can, and next door to us a tree crashed through their garage and damaged their vintage 'vette stored inside.

We were out of power for four days. In the winter. With electric-powered oil heat. We had no trouble with bad food in the fridge, we just put it in boxes out in the garage where it stayed icy cold. That was AFTER we spent 4 hours shoveling a path from the back door to the garage.

DAVES 09-26-2022 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by lsauls7537 (Post 2140062)
I never understood this! Do you poop more during a hurricane? You can't use it for any other purpose, so why ? Buying cases of water? Use your empty/clean milk jugs.
Fill gallon zip lock bags with water, put on baking sheet in the freezer, then if electric goes out, you've got extra time before food will defrost, or use them in your cooler.
People are people. Far as toilet paper. If, I had a store, I would have only a few rolls on the shelf. People passing that shelf will buy more thinking there is a shortage. If the hurricane is truly bad, rolls of toilet paper may become coin of the villages. We do not have gas. I do have Coleman stoves and laterns. Trade a roll for a lantern mantle? Gasoline? Hot coffee?

Seriously, all you can do is the best you can. Toilet paper is actually a fairly new invention.

Toymeister 09-26-2022 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by daniel200 (Post 2140113)
Just curious how this is setup. Do you run the generator outside? From what I understand the fumes make them unsafe to run in your garage. How do you get power from the generator to your different devices without leaving the doors open?
The generator sits outside. Extension cords run in the window, the crack is sealed by wash cloths. The home is protected by battery backed up carbon monoxide detectors, just as your's is.

A 1000 watt generator is 50cc. A 7500 watt generator uses a 420 cc engine, or 840% more carbon monoxide.

Details matter, this is just one small example.

Toymeister 09-26-2022 09:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2140072)
I have last power numerous times up north - sometimes for days - but the toilets always worked. Do toilets need electrical power in The Villages?
There are diesel generators at pumping stations, it's a legal requirement so the firetrucks can refill and fireman can operate the hydrants. We consumers of water reap this benefit

Toymeister 09-26-2022 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by walterray1 (Post 2140084)
Rope?
I can answer this.

I lost a well up north. Let me tell you drinking water was not a problem, toilet water is. Men, a working toilet is part of the marriage contract. I filled mine by getting water from a bucket thrown into a pond and hauling it back. A rope was very useful. I can assure you you need a lot of water for a toilet.

Side note, you don't get a well put in when you want it, the driller tells you when they will do it

DAVES 09-26-2022 09:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by daniel200 (Post 2140113)
Just curious how this is setup. Do you run the generator outside? From what I understand the fumes make them unsafe to run in your garage. How do you get power from the generator to your different devices without leaving the doors open?
Endless debates. There are all different sizes of generators. You can, probably not before this storm have one wired into your home electric system and it will be big enough to power your AC etc.

Smaller portable generators need to be run outside. The power would need to run through extention cords. You would need heavy duty extension cords and yes your door would need to be open far enough for the cord to pass through. It is likely you would need to wait for the rain to stop before running the generator. You could build a cover for the generator designed to let air in and exhaust out-probably too late now.

If, you/we loose power, it all depends but if it is only out while it is raining you will wonder why you bought a generator. If, it is out for 4-5 days as it was for us pre-florida,
you will wish you had a generator.

I DO NOT HAVE ONE. We have an electric stove. When we were without power, we had gas. Aside-1-2 days is an adventure. Four or five days and it is no longer fun.

All you can do is the best you can.

OrangeBlossomBaby 09-26-2022 09:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by daniel200 (Post 2140113)
Just curious how this is setup. Do you run the generator outside? From what I understand the fumes make them unsafe to run in your garage. How do you get power from the generator to your different devices without leaving the doors open?
I'm more curious how you'd get TV and internet if the connection to the TV stations, and the connection to the internet outside the house has no electricity. They are all powered by electricity.

Electricity in your house won't get internet access to a server that has no electricity.

DAVES 09-26-2022 09:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Worldseries27 (Post 2140028)
if the hurricane slams tv you'll find many new friends to help you on your journey.
What's the worst that could happen???
Amusing. Far different today. Oil the tinman? Due to the epa that would not be allowed.
Witches broom would need to be tested for emissions. Lion and scarecrow-racial issues?
Other then that WAS a classic movie.

Keefelane66 09-26-2022 10:14 AM
Where can I get sandbags in The Villages I'm very concerned that there are no steps and driving rain could enter the home through front door and garage

Worldseries27 09-26-2022 10:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by toymeister (Post 2139918)
i was in an area that had some cluster tornados which took lives, property and a series of high tension power towers leaving hundreds of thousands without power for six days.

I can assure that you will have water as the water in the towers provide water by gravity.

Based upon that experience i have the same level of preparedness now as i did then.

1. One dozen mres
2. 1,000 watt generator
3. 2,500 watt generator
4. Vehicles and cart with full tanks
5. Ten gallons of gasoline

what actually happened to us..

Power went out leaving us in darkness,with storm raging. My daughter and wife looked at me with fear in their eyes. 'lets have a hot dinner before i get the tv and internet up'. In that moment they thought that i was mentally ill.

The 1000 genny gives you: Internet, tv, fans, fridge, microwave and if you have a tankless water heater, hot water. It was like camping in a very nice pop-up with electric.

The larger genny will run a small ac unit but uses more fuel.

In my situation few neighbors purchased huge gennys from out of state but they fell silent when they couldn't keep up with their voracious fuel needs.

This should give you some idea if you think ahead you can be well prepared.

As i write this i fully expect some google powered expert will post some link how this many electronic devices can be powered by such a small generator. I can assure that this is not the case. Certainly we did have inconvenience but we had ample comforts to be comfy with out the huge expense of a whole home generator.
did you forgo a natural gas generator?

ThirdOfFive 09-26-2022 10:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toymeister (Post 2140123)
The generator sits outside. Extension cords run in the window, the crack is sealed by wash cloths. The home is protected by battery backed up carbon monoxide detectors, just as your's is.

A 1000 watt generator is 50cc. A 7500 watt generator uses a 420 cc engine, or 840% more carbon monoxide.

Details matter, this is just one small example.
You can buy flat extension cords too, designed to fit under doors so they can still close. Couldn't find any locally but ordered up two from Amazon, 50", 16-gauge. They'll run anything in the house except the A/C.

LAFwUs 09-26-2022 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2140138)
Where can I get sandbags in The Villages I'm very concerned that there are no steps and driving rain could enter the home through front door and garage
Firestations often have them, but dont be surprised if they have ran out. Lowes/Homedepot sell them.
If all else fails...normal hefty type trash bags, even plastic grocery bags will work. Fill about half way, roll them up on the selves, like a carpet.
Under your grass lawn, is most likely sand, which can be used to fill said trash bags / make shift sand bags - again all else fails and you need to stop water asap. I'd rather repair a section of the lawn postly, then replace furniture, carpet, drywall or whatever else got ruined due to water intrusion in the home, but that's just me.

asianthree 09-26-2022 11:49 AM
In a few hours we are heading to Disney, staying 3 days. Not for an evacuation, but planned trip with 20 out of state friends.

Djean1981 09-26-2022 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 2140163)
In a few hours we are heading to Disney, staying 3 days. Not for an evacuation, but planned trip with 20 out of state friends.
I'm surprised that Disney doesn't close to help keep travelers off the roads ..

rjm1cc 09-26-2022 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by daniel200 (Post 2140113)
Just curious how this is setup. Do you run the generator outside? From what I understand the fumes make them unsafe to run in your garage. How do you get power from the generator to your different devices without leaving the doors open?
You need extension cords. Probably run cord under the garage door. Do not plug into your electrical system to distribute power as this could hurt someone repairing the lines.

Vermilion Villager 09-26-2022 12:44 PM
Latest models now seeing a shift to the East. Tampa is under mandatory evacuation in certain areas. McDill AFB is evacuating. East track not good for TV. Still too soon to tell. The one saving grace is no matter where the storm hits it will be over cooler water and weakening.

Hardlyworking 09-26-2022 12:45 PM
We are currently cruising Glacier Bay National Park in AK. Not much we can do from here but my neighbors are gracious enough to watch over our house and batten down any hatches that remain unbattened. We will be watching from afar with fingers crossed. Stay safe.

asianthree 09-26-2022 12:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Djean1981 (Post 2140165)
I'm surprised that Disney doesn't close to help keep travelers off the roads ..
Disney closed for 2 days durning Irma. Plus filled their hotels with those who had to evacuate, pets and all. Just got an update from them, about adding to stay, or leaving early, will be no penalty. Disney handles storms well

Bill14564 09-26-2022 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Djean1981 (Post 2140165)
I'm surprised that Disney doesn't close to help keep travelers off the roads ..
Closing Disney would put a lot of people ON the roads.

Disney handles storms well.

Toymeister 09-26-2022 01:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2140131)
I'm more curious how you'd get TV and internet if the connection to the TV stations, and the connection to the internet outside the house has no electricity. They are all powered by electricity.

Electricity in your house won't get internet access to a server that has no electricity.
Extension cords. Modem, TV, I have several cords to power all. In reality in an emergency you will live in the LR and MBR.

Specifically, the extension cords are laid out this way:
-one 50' cord terminating in six outlets. This leads inside and powers everything inside.

-one 50' cord outside to the tankless water heater, this powers the electronics of the gas powered heater

In the home pluged into the cord to the generator there is:

one cord leads to the kitchen to power the fridge and router

One leads to the LR to power the TV and a light

The final interior cord runs to power a fan and a light in the MBR.

If your counting there are three more outlets for a floater cord to power whatever you need.
Each of the three interior cords terminates in a three outlet cord.

I use 12 gauge extension cords

In the power outage that I lived through there was internet. Near our home there was a small utility type of box that had a small generator running, looking back it was probably the cable/internet backup generator

retiredguy123 09-26-2022 01:05 PM
Buy some good flashlights that use AA batteries. The D size will be sold out. I use the lithium type batteries that you can buy at Sam's or Amazon. Also, buy some plug in emergency lights that come on when there is a power outage, and can also be used as a flashlight. Not night lights, which go out when there is a power outage. I learned that the hard way.

Babsjeanie 09-26-2022 01:05 PM
Pool water level
 
Any thoughts on taking water out of the pool. Was told by Patriot not to take any water out. Doing so could damage the motor if below the skimmer. I was concerned about the overflow.

Stu from NYC 09-26-2022 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Babsjeanie (Post 2140184)
Any thoughts on taking water out of the pool. Was told by Patriot not to take any water out. Doing so could damage the motor if below the skimmer. I was concerned about the overflow.
Are the pool chemicals safe to drink? Or if not drinking what would you do with the water you take out?

asianthree 09-26-2022 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2140186)
Are the pool chemicals safe to drink? Or if not drinking what would you do with the water you take out?
Flushing water. If needed

birdiebill 09-26-2022 01:27 PM
Be aware at gate crossings that gate arms are being removed to keep them from becoming dangerous flying objects.

Keefelane66 09-26-2022 01:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Babsjeanie (Post 2140184)
Any thoughts on taking water out of the pool. Was told by Patriot not to take any water out. Doing so could damage the motor if below the skimmer. I was concerned about the overflow.
If you need to drain water from pool you shut filter pump off common sense if below skimmer.

Keefelane66 09-26-2022 01:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2140186)
Are the pool chemicals safe to drink? Or if not drinking what would you do with the water you take out?
Stu from NY technically your skin is your largest organ if you swim in the pools here they are chlorinated and will not kill you. Obviously you don't have a pool if you were to use a pool water test kit for chlorine take regular tap water if unfiltered and will test similar chlorine content of pool. Short answer I probably drank gallons of pool water as a kid I'm still alive

Bill14564 09-26-2022 02:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2140186)
Are the pool chemicals safe to drink? Or if not drinking what would you do with the water you take out?
There are a lot of things that won’t kill you but it’s still best not to swallow them. Treated pool water is one of them.

Let the pool overflow then after the storm drain to the proper level. If you need water for flushing a toilet (doubtful but..) then dip a bucket in the pool for that.

Stu from NYC 09-26-2022 03:35 PM
Thank you for a teaching moment. I did not know what I did not know.


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