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ithos 12-05-2024 07:02 AM

Remember, with the new refrigerant regulations, most production of R410A units will be outlawed. This means if your compressor fails you may have to replace the inside unit too which may not be covered. R410A refrigerant will be available for many more years.

One option is to purchase a replacement compressor while they are still available. It takes more labor than swapping out the condenser but the overall cost should be about the same. Every other part that fails are relatively inexpensive and can be replaced by the average handyman. (I have personally replaced a compressor in a residential condenser with no problems. Typically in commercial units, failed compressors are replaced especially in package units)
Refrigerant Transition Takes a Big Step in 2025 | ACHR News

retiredguy123 12-05-2024 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by DennisfromMinnesota (Post 2390959)
I purchased a Home Systems endorsement through my State Farm agent in Mississippi. Cost was about $30 yr. It’s underwritten and serviced through Hartford Steam Boiler Co I think.
In any event, I believe up to $50k coverage, $500 deductible.
A/C condensing unit. (Big box outside) went out. They paid out $4k, less my $500 deductible.
Oh, and after 10 years, limit drops dramatically to $2k I think. Still, I thought a pretty good value.

I'm curious. Apparently, these State Farm endorsements are available to purchase in Florida, but for about $100 per year. They have a $500 per repair deductible, and they do not cover "normal wear and tear". A new HVAC system comes with a 5-year parts and labor warranty and your regular homeowner's insurance already covers damage caused by a natural disaster, such as a storm, fire, or power surge. Most minor repairs will usually cost less than $500. So, if your HVAC unit stops working after 5 years and needs to be replaced, how would you convince the insurance company that it was not caused by normal wear and tear? Also, if the 10-year parts warranty is still in effect, does the endorsement cover anything?

djlnc 12-05-2024 07:57 AM

I think you have to have your unit serviced annually for that warranty to remain in effect.

NoMo50 12-05-2024 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2390838)
The "Parts" warranty on HVAC units is of almost no value.

I disagree. Most, if not all, new homes in The Villages come with a 10-year parts and 5-year labor warranty on HVAC systems. We had to make use of that warranty earlier this year when the A/C condenser fan motor shot craps in our 3 year old Carrier unit. Munn's was terrific in coming out the same day, making the repairs under warranty. The tech let me know how fortunate we were that the motor went out under warranty. These new Carrier units use a condenser fan motor that has an ECM built in, and the cost of the "part" alone was $1,018.00! The labor charge to install the motor was $100.00.

nn0wheremann 12-05-2024 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by missmollee (Post 2390811)
Any thoughts on the value of purchasing a five year extended Labor warranty for my three year old house? Parts warranty is still good for another seven years. Labor warranty is good for two more years. Cost = $1k for five more years on the labor warranty. Thanks. Woodstock John

Unless you are hort of cash and have exhausted your credit, the warranty is a waste of your money.

Syd2008 12-05-2024 11:09 AM

Refrigerant leaks
 
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Originally Posted by Babubhat (Post 2390860)
It’s the ONLY extended warranty I have ever purchased. The run capacitor will often fail and you’re lucky if they show up for 200 a year. Not to mention refrigerant leaks.

To each his own. Like the Fram commercial, you can pay me now or pay me later. I find the reward to risk ratio reasonable.

Leaks are very rare, if you have one, repair, recharge and your done. If they just recharge then they’ll be back at some point. Capacitor $20, five screws and done in 15-20 minutes.

mikempp 12-06-2024 12:31 AM

Heck no.
 
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Originally Posted by missmollee (Post 2390811)
Any thoughts on the value of purchasing a five year extended Labor warranty for my three year old house? Parts warranty is still good for another seven years. Labor warranty is good for two more years. Cost = $1k for five more years on the labor warranty. Thanks. Woodstock John

The ac man I use now put a new condenser in for $400, the part was under warranty. I have rentals in Ohio. I seldom have problems and none have $1000 in labor costs.

MandoMan 12-06-2024 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by missmollee (Post 2390811)
Any thoughts on the value of purchasing a five year extended Labor warranty for my three year old house? Parts warranty is still good for another seven years. Labor warranty is good for two more years. Cost = $1k for five more years on the labor warranty. Thanks. Woodstock John

I had a new HVAC system installed in May of 2023 for $10,500. A refrigerant leak led to several days without cooling last summer and four days without heat last weekend. Turns out the leak is in the coils. As the unit is still under warranty, I don’t have to pay for a new coils unit (probably $1,000), but the two hours to install it will cost me $500. It was supposed to be installed yesterday, but somehow it blew off the truck yesterday on I-75 and was run over by a semi.

retiredguy123 12-06-2024 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by MandoMan (Post 2391149)
I had a new HVAC system installed in May of 2023 for $10,500. A refrigerant leak led to several days without cooling last summer and four days without heat last weekend. Turns out the leak is in the coils. As the unit is still under warranty, I don’t have to pay for a new coils unit (probably $1,000), but the two hours to install it will cost me $500. It was supposed to be installed yesterday, but somehow it blew off the truck yesterday on I-75 and was run over by a semi.

There must be more to this story. New Carrier systems (and most other major brands) come with a 5-year labor and 10-year parts warranty. So, can I assume that this is not a Carrier system? $10,500 is a lot of money for a system that has a substandard warranty. A large local company, like Munn's, would have been able to get replacement coils in a day or so, or just swap them out from an in-stock unit.

ithos 12-06-2024 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by MandoMan (Post 2391149)
I had a new HVAC system installed in May of 2023 for $10,500. A refrigerant leak led to several days without cooling last summer and four days without heat last weekend. Turns out the leak is in the coils. As the unit is still under warranty, I don’t have to pay for a new coils unit (probably $1,000), but the two hours to install it will cost me $500. It was supposed to be installed yesterday, but somehow it blew off the truck yesterday on I-75 and was run over by a semi.

If you have a leak in the future that is not covered by insurance, you usually don't have to replace the coil. You do have to cut some of the fins out though.
https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...il+leak+repair


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