[Babubhat]

Stocks and bonds in bear market. Crypto and commodities getting crushed today. Housing prices have topped. Cash and being short look like the only positive returns. Big liquidity trap.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Babubhat

Stocks and bonds in bear market. Crypto and commodities getting crushed today. Housing prices have topped. Cash and being short look like the only positive returns. Big liquidity trap.

When you consider inflation and paying taxes on the pitiful small interest rates available nothing is giving a positive return.

Markets go up and down and nobody can consistently figure out the highs and lows.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by Babubhat

Stocks and bonds in bear market. Crypto and commodities getting crushed today. Housing prices have topped. Cash and being short look like the only positive returns. Big liquidity trap.

40 percent stocks, 40 percent bonds, 20 percent cash. My portfolio is down about 9 percent since the beginning of the year. Last year, it was up 10 percent for the year. Selling would mean huge capital gains. Fortunately, I live off of my pension.

[JoelJohnson]

I'll let you know in 5 years.

[Robbb]

Turns out bond funds were the "big lie" of the decade, all the risk none of the returns.

[manaboutown]

I am waiting for the market to bottom as I just sold a commercial property at an unbelievably low cap rate and now have cash to invest (after paying a huge tax bill).

Patience is a virtue, at least in this market.

Rents still coming in well. The houses I own are still appreciating according to Zillow for whatever that's worth. I sleep well at night.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

I am waiting for the market to bottom as I just sold a commercial property at an unbelievably low cap rate and now have cash to invest (after paying a huge tax bill).

Patience is a virtue, at least in this market.

Rents still coming in well. The houses I own are still appreciating according to Zillow for whatever that's worth. I sleep well at night.

How in the world will you know when the market bottoms out? Dollar cost averaging works the best for times like this.

[RICH1]

65 year old Day traders are jumping off Step stools ! A good Broker is only as good as the Market…

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

How in the world will you know when the market bottoms out? Dollar cost averaging works the best for times like this.

I can't possibly know "the bottom" but am planning some purchases when P/E ratios drop to about their historical averages. At present it seems to me the market will drop further due to inflation, rising interest rates, issues due to the war in Ukraine and other factors.

[Babubhat]

Originally Posted by melpetezrinski

"nothing is making money"? How about commodities?

Not today. Apple chart just broke support. Massive put buying 15 points below. Timber!

Prince would say going to party like it’s 1929.

History channel says:
The Market—And People—Were Overconfident

Some experts argue that at the time of the crash, stocks were wildly overpriced and that a collapse was imminent.

That same sense of reckless overconfidence extended to average consumers and small investors, too, leading to an “asset bubble.” The crash happened after a long period of rising market growth that led to consumer overconfidence.

In fact, after 1922, the stock market had increased by nearly 20 percent each year until 1929.

[Rainger99]

Everything is down! I lost more last month than i made my first three years of working (before taxes)!

[melpetezrinski]

Originally Posted by Babubhat

Not today. Apple chart just broke support. Massive put buying 15 points below. Timber!

No, not today but one day declines in an asset class doesn't really warrant the claim that "nothing is making money". And yes, buying put options ARE making money, as well as, shorting the market.

[Babubhat]

Originally Posted by melpetezrinski

No, not today but one day declines in an asset class doesn't really warrant the claim that "nothing is making money". And yes, buying put options ARE making money, as well as, shorting the market.

Sqqq has been the G.O.A.T

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by melpetezrinski

No, not today but one day declines in an asset class doesn't really warrant the claim that "nothing is making money". And yes, buying put options ARE making money, as well as, shorting the market.

Anything can make money until they dont.

[rustyp]

Let's assume you have less than 5 years to live would you get out of the market now and wait for volatility to stabilize and then get back in ? Riding out the market and waiting for a comeback makes no money. Getting out now and getting back in at a lower point makes money when the comeback comes. Staying in for the long term is a good strategy if you have a long term. So if you are willing to play the odds on the stock market per history why would one not be willing to play the odds on life expectancy per history ?