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Madelaine Amee 08-28-2014 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by cattywampus (Post 929564)
NO Complaints here with The Villages in Sumter County
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... EVERY Monday
TWO guys + Truck at 8 am to take the recycle

THREE guys + Truck at NOON to take trash and garbage.
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...EVERY Wednesday
THREE guys +Truck at 8 am to pick up yard trimmings
and tree cuttings.
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...EVERY Thursday
TWO guys + Truck at 8 am to take the recycle

THREE guys + Truck at 930 am to take trash and garbage
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52 weeks per year times 5 stops per week = 260 stops per year.
Charges me 17.90 per month times 12 = $ 214.80 per year

ALL my Trash + Garbage + Recycle + Yard waste is taken away.
No matter how much I put out there.

:mademyday: Certainly beats going to the dump which we had to do in NH!

perrjojo 08-28-2014 06:30 AM

:a20:I can't believe some want to nitpick what color trash bag or receptacle they must use. Some want to nitpick who picks up the trash. I am just glad it's gone but I do wish I didn't have to carry those bags out to the curb. That seems like I am doing all the work so someone else can make money off my trash.

Walter123 08-28-2014 07:12 AM

There are many pros and cons for recycling. I for one believe that recycling is far overrated. I am surprised of the righteous comments. We’re talking about trash but some are trashing others rather than just stating your opinion on the subject. Please focus.

big guy 08-28-2014 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Walter123 (Post 929412)
LOL....Not laughing at you. I could just picture the look on your face when the trash guy picked up your recycle bag. Recycle is a joke and I don't do it except for boxes and newspaper because you don't need a "special" clear bag. Oh, by the way, what's with the plastic bag anyway? Doesn't that contribute to the problem? A separate bin would work for me but then there's the argument against the big diesel burning truck. It's a vicious circle.

A separate bin would sit in some driveways for days. I like the plastic bag because it goes away6 on recycling day and doesn't come back for a week.

jalopy54 08-28-2014 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 929400)
.....I went to Publix to get the bags for recycling and got confused with all the choices. I ended up with white bags instead of clear plastic. I mistakenly thought the white bags would work.

I don't buy much food in plastic so I don't have a lot to recycle. It took me about 3 or 4 months to fill up one bag. I was so proud to have accomplished that that I almost didn't want to part with it. It was like a collection of old favorite containers.

I proudly put the bag out at the end of my driveway. And just to make sure they wouldn't get it confused with regular trash I put it next to a stack of newspapers. And I put the other trash about 3 feet away.

So guess what? I saw the garbage guy take the recycling-bag with the rest of the regular trash.

So I said, "that's it" no more recycling.

How long will it be before the recycling police show up at my door?

I am big on recycling, it should be enforced on everyone! I have never had a problem telling if the bags are clear. It says it right on the box. Our world needs recycling. I usually have more recycle than regular garbage. So give our environment and earth a recycling happy face:smiley:

Bonanza 08-28-2014 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by perrjojo (Post 929506)
Oh for Heveans Sake. A recycle bag cost 45cents or less. For 45 cents I can be a good steward of our planet. Find another excuse than price.

You aren't a good steward for our planet; no one in TV is.

As long as we are "required" to use plastic bags for our trash
and recycle items, we are contributing to the problem . . . big time!

Somewhere over 50,000 homes X 2 trash pickups a week =
at least 3 bags per household per week.

Absolutely disgaceful!

Bonanza 08-28-2014 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Walter123 (Post 929619)
There are many pros and cons for recycling. I for one believe that recycling is far overrated. I am surprised of the righteous comments. We’re talking about trash but some are trashing others rather than just stating your opinion on the subject. Please focus.

What are the "cons" for recycling?

How is recycling overrated?

"Please focus!"

Chinook 08-29-2014 12:05 AM

Do they really recycle the items?
 
Hello, I just bought a home in the villages and I come from a very socially and environmentally progressive part of the country and we have recycled for 30 years. I have dutifully separated my trash from my recycle, used the appropriate bags etc.
My neighbors told me: " its all a joke and they just throw the recycle in the same place as the garbage"......
Is this true?
Can any Villagers that have lived in the Villages inform me it they truely recycle our materials we separate into bags for them?

Thanks,
Sue:wave:

KeepingItReal 08-29-2014 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Chinook (Post 929997)
Hello, I just bought a home in the villages and I come from a very socially and environmentally progressive part of the country.
Thanks,
Sue:wave:


Heck, we must be from the same town.....Welcome! :clap2:

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perrjojo 08-29-2014 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Chinook (Post 929997)
Hello, I just bought a home in the villages and I come from a very socially and environmentally progressive part of the country and we have recycled for 30 years. I have dutifully separated my trash from my recycle, used the appropriate bags etc.
My neighbors told me: " its all a joke and they just throw the recycle in the same place as the garbage"......
Is this true?
Can any Villagers that have lived in the Villages inform me it they truely recycle our materials we separate into bags for them?

Thanks,
Sue:wave:

I can't imagine they would run a separate truck with all the expense involved if it were not being recycled. It's funny some complain that the Developer is making money from our recycled trash and others complain it's not really being recycled.
I cannot verify what happens to our trash but I believe it is truly recycled.

mulligan 08-29-2014 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by perrjojo (Post 930027)
I can't imagine they would run a separate truck with all the expense involved if it were not being recycled. It's funny some complain that the Developer is making money from our recycled trash and others complain it's not really being recycled.
I cannot verify what happens to our trash but I believe it is truly recycled.

Two separate trucks come to my street every week. The recycle material is shipped to a single stream recycling facility. Even the abominable clear plastic bags are sorted and recycled there in a mostly automated operation. The regular trash does NOT go to a landfill. It is shipped to any one of several trash burning power plants.

maybe 08-29-2014 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 929478)
I have no problem with recycling being a profitable business. I am all for people making all the profit that they can from any business that they invest in and work hard at. I have a problem being an unpaid employee of that business.

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You are not an unpaid employee for recycling anymore than you are for garbage because you have to properly bag it and take it to the curb. If we wanted to pay the costs involved, we could leave the garbage next to the house or garage, but society decides what is a reasonable effort for individuals to make in order to make the operation run as efficiently as possible. Likewise for recycling, it is more efficient to keep them separate from garbage because of contamination. You could also think of it as you ARE being paid to place recyclables separately, in that your taxes would otherwise be higher. The money the contractor makes on selling recyclables reduces the amount he has to charge the municipality. Personally, I think the sooner we get to sending nothing to landfills, the better off future generations will be.

Walter123 08-29-2014 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Bonanza (Post 929989)
What are the "cons" for recycling?

How is recycling overrated?

"Please focus!"

So you think there are no cons to recycling? Google it. There are pros and cons to almost everything. Right now in Florida recycling is a choice. I put out bundled newspapers and boxes because that makes sense to me. Plastic bottles placed in a plastic bag doesn't make sense to me.

Barefoot 08-29-2014 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Walter123 (Post 930150)
Right now in Florida recycling is a choice. I put out bundled newspapers and boxes because that makes sense to me. Plastic bottles placed in a plastic bag doesn't make sense to me.

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Originally Posted by mulligan (Post 930120)
Two separate trucks come to my street every week. The recycle material is shipped to a single stream recycling facility. Even the abominable clear plastic bags are sorted and recycled there in a mostly automated operation. The regular trash does NOT go to a landfill. It is shipped to any one of several trash burning power plants.

Mulligan explained what happens with recycling, and that the plastic bags are sorted and recycled.
Walter, how does that not make sense to you??

Villages PL 08-29-2014 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by KathieI (Post 929477)
[FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=4] Let's take large plastic bottles for instance:

b) generally they only recycle large containers over 8 oz. and over. so anything smaller also gets tossed

Just on that basis alone, more than half of my stuff would have been tossed.

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d) if any bottles contain labels or caps they must be removed, especially if the label contains any metallic substance in its substrate
Most of my larger containers had labels so they would have been tossed too.

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e) then there is probably a very detailed SOP guidelines they must process in order to assure that the recycled material does not contain any contaminants, bacteria, or other harmful substances.
At least one of my big containers had a label and had contained a poison-herbicide so that would have been tossed.

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This is only for plastic bottles. Now think about all the other types of materials, metal cans, alum cans, corrugate boxes, cereal or folding boxes, glass (which is probably the easiest material to recycle). Did I miss one??
At most I only have one (dark green) glass bottle per month and it has a label on the front and back. I don't drink soda etc. so there are no alum cans. My steel-cut oats comes in cardboard but I only have about one or two per month and they will break down in a land fill.

Of that one bag, that took me several months to fill, there might have been only one or two items that they could use. So I'm not going to feel bad about not recycling.

Here's an idea: If in the future I have an item that seems worthy of recycling I might just put it out by itself with no bag. As a matter of fact, I just remembered, I did that once and it worked.

rubicon 08-29-2014 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 929467)
Dod you ever think about the fact that some people are making millions of dollars from the recycling business and we are doing a god deal of the work for them? If they are so concerned about the environment and making money from it why don't they go through the trash and separate it themselves. Then, they have the nerve to charge us for the bags.

I may be a bit cynical, but sometimes I think that it's all a big scam.

I happen to agree with much of what you say. At least when living in Minneapolis area the waste companies discounted your bill if you agreed to recycle.

In my home town recycling got to be so anal that they were demanding that residents separate bottles from cans, from plastic from paper and demanding that residents pull the labels off of cans and flatten them. Waste management had so many designated days for certain pick ups that they issued a calendar so residents knew what to place at the curb. and in specially colored bins

It infuriated me because my parents were not in the best of health and to go through all of this nonsense in the middle of winter

Villages PL 08-29-2014 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Walter123 (Post 929525)
In the old days, as kids, we would collect bottles and newspapers and we would get the money. Too bad that went away along with the paper route.
To me, that was worthwhile recycling.

Yes, I remember, those were the good ol' days! :)

Villages PL 08-29-2014 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Walter123 (Post 929619)
We’re talking about trash but some are trashing others rather than just stating your opinion on the subject. Please focus.

Right! Some of them have called us petty, small-minded and shameful.

Yes, it's "trash-talk". :)

Villages PL 08-29-2014 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by sunnyatlast (Post 929560)
I recycle as much as possible and try to do my part. But many of these comments sound like it's a religion, and like the o.p. is seen as a heretic in the times of burnings at the stake.

Perhaps they could start the Church of Latter Day Recycling. :)

Villages PL 08-29-2014 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mulligan (Post 930120)
The regular trash does NOT go to a landfill. It is shipped to any one of several trash burning power plants.

Thanks, mulligan, that means it's not a "sin" if you don't recycle. If you put plastic and other recyclable items in with the trash it all gets burned. Ashes to ashes and dust to dust. Amen! :)

slipcovers 08-29-2014 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 930214)
Thanks, mulligan, that means it's not a "sin" if you don't recycle. If you put plastic and other recyclable items in with the trash it all gets burned. Ashes to ashes and dust to dust. Amen! :)

No, there is still a landfill fee and recyclable items are just that...recyclable. It is irresponsible not to recycle...period.

Bavarian 08-29-2014 03:56 PM

I wish the recycling zealots would put as much efforts into the bigger problems we face with ISIS

TheVillageChicken 08-29-2014 04:19 PM

I am a dutiful recycler. Here is a picture of me taking out the trash.

http://meyouandworld.files.wordpress...2/recycle2.jpg

dbussone 08-29-2014 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TheVillageChicken (Post 930336)
I am a dutiful recycler. Here is a picture of me taking out the trash.



http://meyouandworld.files.wordpress...2/recycle2.jpg


Just what I need. A shining example of recycling.

dbussone 08-29-2014 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TheVillageChicken (Post 930336)
I am a dutiful recycler. Here is a picture of me taking out the trash.



http://meyouandworld.files.wordpress...2/recycle2.jpg


And Hotty Toddy to you. Go Col Rebel.

sunnyatlast 08-29-2014 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bavarian (Post 930324)
I wish the recycling zealots would put as much efforts into the bigger problems we face with ISIS

I wonder if the zealots genuflect in the presence of bagged recyclables.

Bonanza 08-29-2014 05:21 PM

It's NOT okay!
 
[QUOTE=Walter123;930150]So you think there are no cons to recycling? Google it. There are pros and cons to almost everything. Right now in Florida recycling is a choice. I put out bundled newspapers and boxes because that makes sense to me. Plastic bottles placed in a plastic bag doesn't make sense to me.



YOU are the one who said there are cons to recycling; so what are they???

Oh . . . so you think it's okay for plastic bottles to go into a landfill somewhere and get buried and sit there for more years than you are old, besides that it ultimately contaminates the ground water due to the chemicals involved.

People that don't want to do things for the betterment of a community or the world always find a lame reason NOT to do it.

Oh, yeah . . . sure it's okay -- but only in your mind! :22yikes:

Bonanza 08-29-2014 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bavarian (Post 930324)
I wish the recycling zealots would put as much efforts into the bigger problems we face with ISIS

Did you just enlist??

When do you ship out?

Bonanza 08-29-2014 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TheVillageChicken (Post 930336)
I am a dutiful recycler. Here is a picture of me taking out the trash.

http://meyouandworld.files.wordpress...2/recycle2.jpg

You win the prize!

The best post yet!

Absolutely terrific!

champion6 08-29-2014 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TheVillageChicken (Post 930336)
I am a dutiful recycler. Here is a picture of me taking out the trash.
http://meyouandworld.files.wordpress...2/recycle2.jpg

Nooooo!!!!! You must use clear plastic bags, not mesh bags! :icon_wink:

The Mountaineer 08-29-2014 06:44 PM

I always recycle for the same reason that I always stop for red lights: It's the right thing to do. That's good enough for me.

dbussone 08-29-2014 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by champion6 (Post 930381)
Nooooo!!!!! You must use clear plastic bags, not mesh bags! :icon_wink:


But the mesh bags can be used over and over ad nauseum.


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