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Taltarzac725 05-13-2025 08:41 PM

Someone told me about this about eight hours ago but I could not verify it. And where will we get people who do this work for the same wages as those sent wherever? These jobs will be very difficult to fill.

Stu from NYC 05-13-2025 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DrMack (Post 2431269)
No matter, there is a lot of pain and suffering this evening for many families as they are deciding where to go. It was a needless act that inflicts pain on many families living in the nightmare. One thing is a big positive for most, The Villages is not a safe place for illegal immigrants any longer.

Well they should have come here legally or not at all.

FloridaGuy66 05-13-2025 08:43 PM

Meanwhile, 90% of the arrests in TV are white people getting DUI's or their grandkids being caught with meth or beating their girlfriends while the "illegals" are too busy working on landscaping crews or building homes in TV to be involved with nefarious things.

Taltarzac725 05-13-2025 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by FloridaGuy66 (Post 2431283)
Meanwhile, 90% of the arrests in TV are white people getting DUI's or their grandkids being caught with meth or beating their girlfriends while the "illegals" are too busy working on landscaping crews or building homes in TV to be involved with nefarious things.

Does not make any sense to me, either. Probably 95% of the Villagers ancestors came to America after 1800.

Topspinmo 05-13-2025 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2431284)
Does not make any sense to me, either. Probably 95% of the Villagers ancestors came to America after 1800.


Before it was country and after Legally.

Topspinmo 05-13-2025 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2431281)
Someone told me about this about eight hours ago but I could not verify it. And where will we get people who do this work for the same wages as those sent wherever? These jobs will be very difficult to fill.


Yep, they have to fill them legally now at fair wage, until they go after the builders and especially subcontractors ( one hiring illegals illegally and taking advantage of them) nothing will be fixed.

Topspinmo 05-13-2025 09:04 PM

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“Why are they not going after their employers also? Whoops the employers where red hats“

And you think they are only ones. Laugh of day.

manaboutown 05-13-2025 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2431284)
Does not make any sense to me, either. Probably 95% of the Villagers ancestors came to America after 1800.

Legally!

CarlR33 05-13-2025 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pugchief (Post 2431277)
In case you are unaware, most of TV south of 44 is within the city of Wildwood.

The original posts subject line was not inline with the article link it referenced which I read and made zero reference to “The Villages”. I am South of 44 and not a part of Wildwood. I guess the article referenced did not want to draw attention specifically to The Villages.

manaboutown 05-13-2025 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlR33 (Post 2431263)
In Wildwood said nothing about The Villages………..

again...Homeland Security: Dozens of immigration arrests made in the Villages

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-13-2025 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 2431290)
Legally!

Not all, no. Many were smuggled in. The potato famine in Ireland in the 1940's, and again during the Troubles in the 1970's and 1980's saw thousands of "illegal aliens" here in the US. There are over 10,000 undocumented Irish immigrants living in the USA, currently.

The first years leading to WWII saw thousands of "illegal aliens" from Poland, Germany, and other parts of Europe arrive in the US. By "illegal alien" I mean "undocumented immigrants." They didn't have "papers" - they gave a name, which was usually changed and anglicized, told the people on Ellis Island who they were going to visit - which was never checked - and as long as they didn't show symptoms of tuberculosis they were allowed to enter New York City.

Thing about the Europeans though - immigration wasn't tracked the way it is now. So MOST immigrants were what we now call undocumented, or "illegal." The government even created a process to make them permanent residents. If they were fleeing the war, fleeing persecution, fleeing for their lives - the American government helped them to legitimize their stay. But they had to be here "illegally" first.

Between 1880 and 1920, thousands of Italian immigrants fled Italy and came to the US, many of whom were undocumented.

manaboutown 05-13-2025 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2431294)
Not all, no. Many were smuggled in. The potato famine in Ireland in the 1940's, and again during the Troubles in the 1970's and 1980's saw thousands of "illegal aliens" here in the US. There are over 10,000 undocumented Irish immigrants living in the USA, currently.

The first years leading to WWII saw hundreds of "illegal aliens" from Poland, Germany, and other parts of Europe arrive in the US. By "illegal alien" I mean "undocumented immigrants." They didn't have "papers" - they gave a name, which was usually changed and anglicized, told the people on Ellis Island who they were going to visit - which was never checked - and as long as they didn't show symptoms of tuberculosis they were allowed to enter New York City.

Between 1880 and 1920, thousands of Italian immigrants fled Italy and came to the US, many of whom were undocumented.

Well, mine came here legally from Sweden and Germany.

Mookie55 05-13-2025 10:05 PM

Where South of 44 are you not in Wildwood if you live in The Villages?

mtdjed 05-13-2025 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by FloridaGuy66 (Post 2431283)
Meanwhile, 90% of the arrests in TV are white people getting DUI's or their grandkids being caught with meth or beating their girlfriends while the "illegals" are too busy working on landscaping crews or building homes in TV to be involved with nefarious things.

So, what is wrong with arresting drunk drivers, drug violators, and molesters? Those are illegal activities and should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Even if they have families and work and are white. Sure, families will suffer and that is unfortunate. Do something "illegal" and suffer the consequence.

Compare that to "illegal immigrants". Shouldn't the same apply? The description "illegal" says they did not do immigration the right way: suffer the consequence.

Topspinmo 05-13-2025 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2431294)
Not all, no. Many were smuggled in. The potato famine in Ireland in the 1940's, and again during the Troubles in the 1970's and 1980's saw thousands of "illegal aliens" here in the US. There are over 10,000 undocumented Irish immigrants living in the USA, currently.

The first years leading to WWII saw thousands of "illegal aliens" from Poland, Germany, and other parts of Europe arrive in the US. By "illegal alien" I mean "undocumented immigrants." They didn't have "papers" - they gave a name, which was usually changed and anglicized, told the people on Ellis Island who they were going to visit - which was never checked - and as long as they didn't show symptoms of tuberculosis they were allowed to enter New York City.

Thing about the Europeans though - immigration wasn't tracked the way it is now. So MOST immigrants were what we now call undocumented, or "illegal." The government even created a process to make them permanent residents. If they were fleeing the war, fleeing persecution, fleeing for their lives - the American government helped them to legitimize their stay. But they had to be here "illegally" first.

Between 1880 and 1920, thousands of Italian immigrants fled Italy and came to the US, many of whom were undocumented.

What’s thousands to several million? A few.

They’re always going to be one’s that sneak In and they get caught depending on who’s in charge and what laws they want to enforce they get deported.


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