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DAVES 11-29-2021 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by heims01 (Post 2034815)
If we cut the tree down we need to remove debris. If the tree falls naturally into the lake, then you may leave it as is. If we could just leave the tree in the lake it would be a lot less expensive to cut down but the rules are what the rules are. I have spent more money removing trees than I care to recall, most recently a diseased Palm the first few months after purchasing in the villages

My mom and sister would regularly read Ann Landers advice column. She is long gone but my advice to them applies. People offer you advice but in the end if it goes bad the same people will say sorry to hear that.

My view, there is right, there is wrong and there is legal, they are often not the same.
You know what the right thing to do is. That tree could fall at the wrong time and injure not just property but you or your neighbor. Which way will a tree fall is easy to tell. It is common for a tree to lean and it will most likely fall the way it is leaning. Like Ann Landers I accept no responsibility should it go bad.

DAVES 11-29-2021 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueStarAirlines (Post 2034874)
Not sure of your state, but in mine a falling tree that results in damages would be paid for by your neighbor's insurance. In almost 100% of the cases, their insurance company sues you and they recoup the cost.

In the case where there is no damage (ie falling in a lake), if it is on someone else's property line that it falls they can sue you to remove it. I imagine it would cost more for you to have it removed from a lake than a controlled fall on your property and disposal.

If nothing else, think of the animosity if they go to put in their dock and your tree is laying there in the way and you saying it isn't your problem! I'd make your life a living hell....

Re: insurance
There is usually a deductible

Re: people
My guess is the original poster knows what the right thing to do is.

dblwyr 11-29-2021 10:02 AM

Under Florida tree law, the health of the tree determines who is responsible when that tree causes damage to a neighboring property. Gallo, 512 So. 2d at 216. As long as the tree was healthy at the time, a landowner is not liable for damage caused if the tree falls down onto a neighboring property.Mar 17, 2021

virtue51 11-29-2021 10:15 AM

Do the right thing and take the tree down.

TSO/ISPF 11-29-2021 11:18 AM

The neighbor knows because we mentioned it to them.
 
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Originally Posted by virtue51 (Post 2035009)
Do the right thing and take the tree down.

The arborist who looked at the tree said it was lightning that did it. The tree still leaves out put you can see part of the tree roots moving in the wind. We will have it removed but it's in a tough spot. No access for heavy equipment and you would have to climb it to top it before trying to drop it in the yard because of its size and proximity to your house/deck.
Thanks for all your thoughts on this.

CAdams 11-29-2021 03:18 PM

I’ve been in property management for 33 yrs in Colorado. We manage rentals & HOAs. When this happened at one of the rentals (house hit by a downed branch from the neighboring property), the insurance company told us the damaged property’s insurance pays & they work it out with the other insurance. I know it sounds unfair & I had difficulty accepting it but that’s what they said & did.

CFrance 11-29-2021 05:42 PM

Another thing to consider is what the DNR and/or Corps of Engineers and/or the Coast Guard would say about letting a tree fall off your property into a waterway. (Don't know the size of the lake, where it is, etc.)

Babubhat 11-29-2021 08:34 PM

Court will frown upon someone not remediating a known problem. Good luck denying this post in discovery. Just fix the problem

kayak 11-29-2021 08:46 PM

An insurance agent in Georgia explained to me this way: If your tree falls on your neighbor's property it is covered by your neighbor's insurance. If the tree is dead then it is covered by your insurance. In order to be liable you must be negligent.

pauld315 11-29-2021 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 2034804)
If tree is on your property, and it falls on neighbor’s property, you’re paying for repairs.

I don't think so legally anyway. We had a neighbor's tree come down on top of our house during a hurricane and our insurance company told me it was our problem to get it removed and fix the damages, not the neighbors. In this case, your neighbor may be able to shift the onus onto you if they notify you in writing of the impending danger to their property but I am not a lawyer or insurance agent.

Spsmith444 11-29-2021 10:17 PM

Tight Wad
 
Holy cow the tree is on your property-take it down. I would be very disappointed to have a neighbor that doesn’t take matter seriously and remove the tree because of cost.

Michael G. 11-29-2021 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 2035127)
Another thing to consider in what the DNR and/or Corps of Engineers and/or the Coast Guard would say about letting a tree fall off your property into a waterway. (Don't know the size of the lake, where it is, etc.)

My thoughts also.

How would a fallen tree sink to the bottom of the lake as a fish crip,
wouldn't a dead tree float?

casamarietta 11-30-2021 07:10 AM

have it taken down on the ice in the winter and it can be easily cut up and stacked on the shore for removal in the spring

kkingston57 11-30-2021 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by RedFoxRick (Post 2034869)
We lost two trees in two situations. According to the insurance company, if the tree was healthy and struck by lightening or blown down - act of god - so you are not liable. If the tree is unhealthy and not addressed and falls on your neighbor's property - you are liable.

Was in the insurance adjusting business and agree with most of your thoughts. Many people use the term "act of god". Will not find that term in the law. Over the years people have used it to refer to weather events.

In our litigious society if the tree hit a person and killed/badly injured that person you can or should expect that the person will try to find blame on the tree owner. There are a lot of "paid experts" out there who will make an arguement that the tree was likely to fall or the owner of tree knew or should have known that it could fall. If something did happen, if you have a Homeowners policy with liability insurance. they would respond to any claim and/or lawsuit.

kkingston57 11-30-2021 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by kanoa1kale2 (Post 2034899)
Had this happen in Ohio. Two trees fell on my roof from my neighbors property. My insurance company had to cover removal and roof replacement. Surprised me as I thought her insurance would cover it.

Was in the adjusting business. Most policies are called all risk policies. In other words the policy pays for all types of damages caused, EXCEPT for certain causes(such as war, wearing out, flood) In Florida, your insurance company could try to recover the money paid out if they could show that the neighbor had a bad tree and knew they had a bad tree


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