Are you calling the gun rule posters stupid?

Hmmmm this post going from birds to guns, what are the chances?

Well, the title of the thread is about a shotgun.

OP has a bird feeder and complains when it provides food for a bird. Go figure.

Could even go to golf if starts are mentioned.:icon_wink:

Raptors are protected and what options you have
 

All Florida raptors are protected under the federal Migratory Bird Treaty Act and under Florida law. This means the birds themselves, their nests, and their eggs are protected by federal and state law. Inactive nests (no young or eggs present) of non-listed hawks can be removed without a permit (Rule 68A-16.003). Nests of Eagles, Crested Caracara, Snail Kite, American Kestrel, and Ospreys in Monroe County cannot be removed under this rule. If the hawk nest is active with eggs or chicks in the nest, removal permits are needed from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (USFWS).



What can be done without a permit?

Avoid areas near the nest, if possible. If you must go through the area, carry an open umbrella or wear a hard hat.
Temporarily erect a shade structure to obstruct the birds’ view of people and pets.
Planting shrubbery can also provide cover for pets and birds visiting feeders.
Sometimes you may be able to use an air horn to deter birds that start to dive.
During the non-breeding season, trim branches to eliminate perches and help resolve recurring issues.
Eliminate attractants that may attract prey such as rodents into your yard. Items like unsecured garbage, fallen bird seed and pet food are common household attractants that may entice prey species onto your property.

I don’t want to sound mean but simple solution is don’t feed the birds or any wildlife for that matter. This is nature and natural for animals to fend for themselves. Even though we humans are taking up more space mother nature adapts and provides.

New York has a very odd procedure for a carry license. I first had to buy a handgun, but not take possession of it. THEN I went through the process to legally carry THAT handgun. The serial number is on my license. Were I not granted the carry license, I am not really sure what would happen to the gun. Would I lose the money spent on it? Another odd thing with NY and NJ, as hard as it is to get one, they are for life.

If I am wrong tell me, but I am 99.99999 sure he was kidding about the shotgun. Like when a date would pick up one of my girls in HS, and they'd wait in the library with me where I'd be cleaning my guns. Of course I'd never shoot them (A whack to the head with a shovel would do). Let's see how many posts are written telling me it is not legal to whack people in the head with a shovel.

So, you are not certain about the shotgun.

Three day waiting period? Is that for the first one only?

Please, anyone who has been on this site knew it would go this way. What I really want to know, when people are walking their dogs and stop to see all of the pretty birds on your property, do the dogs sh*+ on other peoples property.

Well, yes. .00001 so there is a chance he meant it.

It applies to all gun purchases from a licensed firearm dealer. But, if you purchase a gun online to be delivered to a dealer, the 3-day period starts at the time of the purchase. So, by the time you pick up the firearm, the 3 days could be over.

I think the 3-day law was passed a few years ago, shortly after a mass shooting in Florida.

Two things I would hate about a neighbor, a wind chime and a bird feeder.
Are you going to start killing the Pelicans who dive down and snatch the fish, wait do you eat Fish, Chicken, or Turkey?

Totally agree. I hate wind chimes.

THIS^^^^^^^

I once saw a guy kill a snake because it was eating a frog. Ridiculous.

These animals aren't being mean or aggressive. They are simply living. This is what happens in nature every day. It is we humans that put labels like "cute" or "scary" on animals. They are simply animals eating.

You created a feeding ground for the hawks and now you want to shoot them. That’s not right. I had a lot of feeders up north that brought the hawks. Hard to see them snatch up other birds but the hawks are beautiful too. I wonder if it’s even legal to shoot hawks.

It’s always all about golf. Why do you think I would consider selling my shotgun? Have you seen the price of a new Callaway driver these days? With a new driver I will have a better chance of getting myself a birdie: )

It is illegal to kill a hawk

The three day waiting period does not apply to persons that have a concealed carry permit.

If the sellers are not observing the three day waiting period or checking to see if the buyer has a concealed carry permit, they are breaking the law.

And why would they be on open display? Isn't that how items are sold?

in 2021 I purchased a Hell Cat from a large gun shop and range in Sarasota. Took almost an hour for the background check to come back, but I walked out with it. I believe the waiting period does not apply to CWP holders. (Thank you poster two above. Confirmed)

OP, you could be fined for shooting a gun in a Village neighborhood. My advice, let nature take its course.

Is perfectly legal to sell a firearm in a private transaction between two individuals. I would have a Bill of sale & the serial number listed on it.

Not true. It’s perfectly legal for private transactions between two people in the state of Florida. No background check or waiting period required

Correct. But what will happen after July 1, when you no longer need a concealed carry permit?

I know hyperbole when I see it. :)

In fact, your post brought back a memory of a cleverly staged prom picture of a friend’s daughter, posing with her date for pictures before leaving the house.

There they were — the teenage couple, all dressed up for the first prom picture……

That picture of her and her date included her 3 brothers and her dad. Her dad was holding a shotgun. One of her brothers had a pistol. There was a brother holding a chainsaw, and another one had an ax.

It was a very funny picture.

Boomer

i don't know if this will help you or not, you've probably tried some of these things already.
Protect Backyard Birds From Hawks

if all else fails, maybe try 'adopting' the hawk as a 'pet' & feed them other goodies in order to leave your babies alone? idk, ...good luck

Same happened to me but the Hawk grabbed the bird from a tree. I heard the commotion and told my husband to chase the hawk away he did not and it got the bird. After the wrath of his angry wife I can assure you he will not allow another one to hang out on our property. Just bang pots they will fly away. Nothing you can do if they just swoop down to grab the bird, small squirrel, rabbit or even a small pup. It is the Circle of Life. If you are in the Villages I would not fire off a shotgun unless you want to be in the Village News the following day.

Residents still have the option to have a permit.

There are two reasons that some might want to. One is just what we're talking about here. There is no waiting period when purchasing a firearm. The second is that Florida has a reciprocal arrangement with 38 other states that allows permit holders to carry in those states. That will only apply if you have a permit.

If I was going to buy a gun , I sure as hell would not rely on any if the above 70 posts to know how to do it legally.

I just wonder how long Florida will keep the concealed carry permit system in place, if you don't need a permit in Florida. It seems like an unnecessary expense.

If they are selling guns at a flea market, they are violating the law that requires firearm dealers to be licensed. I don't think it would be considered a private sale between two people.

I would imagine they will keep it forever due to reciprocity with other states. If you don’t have an actual CCW you won’t be able to carry legally in most states outside of Florida that currently recognize our permit.

OP, I’m pretty sure you were just firing for effect when you wrote that shotgun thing. I know you cannot be actually planning to start shooting in TV.

Although I like seeing birds, raptors, too, we don’t have bird feeders, not in TV nor in Ohio.

TV houses are so close together that I appreciate the observation that none of our neighbors have bird feeders either…..

Why?

Palm Rats!! :22yikes:

Boomer

Feral cats serve a purpose. But if they are killing something you love...
 

Feral cats serve a purpose. But if they are killing something you love Amazon has a great cage available for catch and release somewhere else. Amazon.com

Nature will work things out. But you don't have to watch.

1. If you don't want to see a bird of prey....eat prey....then don't watch
2. Please tell me when you move down to the villages you're not going to be living by me.

I hear your hurt but you’ll be arrested for shooting a hawk & even if you just shoot it in the air it’s against the law to discharge any kind of firearm in a populated area. Personally I think your just tough talking. They’ll probably throw a net over you & take you to a mental hospital. Sorry about your little friends!

Feral cats are not protected.
 

Feral cats are not protected.