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bjp1673 06-22-2023 07:12 AM

Raptors are protected and what options you have
 
All Florida raptors are protected under the federal Migratory Bird Treaty Act and under Florida law. This means the birds themselves, their nests, and their eggs are protected by federal and state law. Inactive nests (no young or eggs present) of non-listed hawks can be removed without a permit (Rule 68A-16.003). Nests of Eagles, Crested Caracara, Snail Kite, American Kestrel, and Ospreys in Monroe County cannot be removed under this rule. If the hawk nest is active with eggs or chicks in the nest, removal permits are needed from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (USFWS).



What can be done without a permit?

Avoid areas near the nest, if possible. If you must go through the area, carry an open umbrella or wear a hard hat.
Temporarily erect a shade structure to obstruct the birds’ view of people and pets.
Planting shrubbery can also provide cover for pets and birds visiting feeders.
Sometimes you may be able to use an air horn to deter birds that start to dive.
During the non-breeding season, trim branches to eliminate perches and help resolve recurring issues.
Eliminate attractants that may attract prey such as rodents into your yard. Items like unsecured garbage, fallen bird seed and pet food are common household attractants that may entice prey species onto your property.

gbs317 06-22-2023 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Tvflguy (Post 2228538)
We love animals and birds. We have a multilevel birdhouse in our back that has provided shelter and breeding for little House Sparrows. They are so cute and lively. There have been at least 10 broods of these birds over the past few years. Lots of babies hatched. Matter of fact one of the condos has three little ones now chirping for their food.

We also have a nice bird feeder in our front yard. They and other birds love it.

But. Yesterday we saw a Hawk loitering around, and in the afternoon had a little bird in his mouth on our driveway and then finally flew off. We’ve seen Hawks before but never one with (one of our birds) for lunch. Yuck.

Yes, it’s nature and circle of life, but….

If I see another Hawk nearby I may go out to get a shotgun. Gotta protect our little birdies.

Any idea in how to get rid of Hawks?

I don’t want to sound mean but simple solution is don’t feed the birds or any wildlife for that matter. This is nature and natural for animals to fend for themselves. Even though we humans are taking up more space mother nature adapts and provides.

Whitley 06-22-2023 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2228548)
I think you just need a bill of sale, signed by the buyer and seller. As a seller, I would require identification and include the serial number on the bill of sale.

If I were selling a handgun, I would also require the buyer to have a current concealed carry permit in Florida. That way, you know the buyer has a legal right to own a firearm.

New York has a very odd procedure for a carry license. I first had to buy a handgun, but not take possession of it. THEN I went through the process to legally carry THAT handgun. The serial number is on my license. Were I not granted the carry license, I am not really sure what would happen to the gun. Would I lose the money spent on it? Another odd thing with NY and NJ, as hard as it is to get one, they are for life.

Whitley 06-22-2023 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by crash (Post 2228633)
We love animals and birds and I need to go get a shotgun to kill the hawk don’t belong in the same post.

If you shoot the hawk you may end up in jail.

If I am wrong tell me, but I am 99.99999 sure he was kidding about the shotgun. Like when a date would pick up one of my girls in HS, and they'd wait in the library with me where I'd be cleaning my guns. Of course I'd never shoot them (A whack to the head with a shovel would do). Let's see how many posts are written telling me it is not legal to whack people in the head with a shovel.

retiredguy123 06-22-2023 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Whitley (Post 2228698)
If I am wrong tell me, but I am 99.99999 sure he was kidding about the shotgun. Like when a date would pick up one of my girls in HS, and they'd wait in the library with me where I'd be cleaning my guns. Of course I'd never shoot them (A whack to the head with a shovel would do). Let's see how many posts are written telling me it is not legal to whack people in the head with a shovel.

So, you are not certain about the shotgun.

Whitley 06-22-2023 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2228641)
The 3 day waiting period is a Florida law that has been in effect for about a two years or so. The background check is a Federal law that only applies to purchases from a licensed firearm dealer.

Three day waiting period? Is that for the first one only?

Whitley 06-22-2023 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2228675)
Hmmmm this post going from birds to guns, what are the chances?

Please, anyone who has been on this site knew it would go this way. What I really want to know, when people are walking their dogs and stop to see all of the pretty birds on your property, do the dogs sh*+ on other peoples property.

Whitley 06-22-2023 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2228699)
So, you are not certain about the shotgun.

Well, yes. .00001 so there is a chance he meant it.

retiredguy123 06-22-2023 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Whitley (Post 2228700)
Three day waiting period? Is that for the first one only?

It applies to all gun purchases from a licensed firearm dealer. But, if you purchase a gun online to be delivered to a dealer, the 3-day period starts at the time of the purchase. So, by the time you pick up the firearm, the 3 days could be over.

I think the 3-day law was passed a few years ago, shortly after a mass shooting in Florida.

JGibson 06-22-2023 07:44 AM

Two things I would hate about a neighbor, a wind chime and a bird feeder.
Are you going to start killing the Pelicans who dive down and snatch the fish, wait do you eat Fish, Chicken, or Turkey?

retiredguy123 06-22-2023 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by JGibson (Post 2228712)
Two things I would hate about a neighbor, a wind chime and a bird feeder.
Are you going to start killing the Pelicans who dive down and snatch the fish, wait do you eat Fish, Chicken, or Turkey?

Totally agree. I hate wind chimes.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 06-22-2023 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by lkagele (Post 2228574)
Everybody's got to eat.....

THIS^^^^^^^

I once saw a guy kill a snake because it was eating a frog. Ridiculous.

These animals aren't being mean or aggressive. They are simply living. This is what happens in nature every day. It is we humans that put labels like "cute" or "scary" on animals. They are simply animals eating.

kendi 06-22-2023 08:07 AM

You created a feeding ground for the hawks and now you want to shoot them. That’s not right. I had a lot of feeders up north that brought the hawks. Hard to see them snatch up other birds but the hawks are beautiful too. I wonder if it’s even legal to shoot hawks.

tophcfa 06-22-2023 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2228675)
Hmmmm this post going from birds to guns, what are the chances?

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2228686)
Could even go to golf if starts are mentioned.:icon_wink:

It’s always all about golf. Why do you think I would consider selling my shotgun? Have you seen the price of a new Callaway driver these days? With a new driver I will have a better chance of getting myself a birdie: )

Bellavita 06-22-2023 08:29 AM

It is illegal to kill a hawk

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tvflguy (Post 2228538)
We love animals and birds. We have a multilevel birdhouse in our back that has provided shelter and breeding for little House Sparrows. They are so cute and lively. There have been at least 10 broods of these birds over the past few years. Lots of babies hatched. Matter of fact one of the condos has three little ones now chirping for their food.

We also have a nice bird feeder in our front yard. They and other birds love it.

But. Yesterday we saw a Hawk loitering around, and in the afternoon had a little bird in his mouth on our driveway and then finally flew off. We’ve seen Hawks before but never one with (one of our birds) for lunch. Yuck.

Yes, it’s nature and circle of life, but….

If I see another Hawk nearby I may go out to get a shotgun. Gotta protect our little birdies.

Any idea in how to get rid of Hawks?



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