A rose with that thorn.

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You're not going to see all the construction workers on site working at the same time. Plumbers, electricians, dry wall installers, tile layers, flooring installers, painters, roofers, HVAC installers, etc. can't do their work at the same time. Workers that build the roof trusses work off site as do the concrete redi-mix plant employees. There are the cement truck drivers that bring the concrete to the work site. There are warehouse workers that maintain the inventory used by the builders but they don't work at the construction site. There are truck drivers operating the dump trucks hauling sand all over the place, heavy equipment operators that move the sand around for the dump trucks to haul. There are also the food truck operators that roam the construction sites providing food to the workers and the people that prepare the food for sale. Even though they don't do actual construction work they wouldn't exist if there wasn't construction going on. Mechanics are used to maintain the trucks and heavy equipment. 20,000 employees is probably a conservative estimate.

As a newbie here, I kind of chuckle at this topic. Y’all argue about your property tax which was increased, which you were promised a decrease by these new guys, and some want an impact fee increase, because you were told that is the only way to decrease your property tax. I’ve heard of people getting sold swamp land in Florida. Never thought I’d see it though. Have now. Both sides are selling a bunch of doodoo.

I mean why haven’t your new guys done anything to lower your property taxes? Wasn’t that why they were elected?And also has anybody looked at the County budget? Why have either increase? What’s it going to be used for? And if a developer offers more money as in the developers proposal, jump on it, plus lower the property tax! New homes mean additional property tax and yes some more infrastructure, but I thought that’s what the bonds paid for, too. Seems to me that no tax or fee increase is a good increase.

I don’t know. I’m just glad I live in Lake County.

Who won the War?
 

Time to start rolling back most of Florida gang up in Tally!

Requiring the Developer (through reasonable impact fees) rather than the current residents (through a massive property-tax hike) to pay for county infrastructure (roads, police and fire facilities, other government buildings, libraries, etc.) necessitated by the Developer's massive expansion of The Villages is hardly "stick it to the Developer", as you claim.

As to negotiating with the Developer as to impact fees, why should the Developer be able to "negotiate" what his taxes and fees are? Can you do that? That issue should be decided by the representatives of the voters. Sumter County is, at least in theory, a democracy, not a plutocracy.

Nothing new…

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Like Puppets?

You can say things over and over with no factual support but it doesn’t make it correct. So here are some facts: there is only one impact fee for Sumter County and that is for roads. The other things you list are not relevant since your BOCC voted 4 to 1 to not pursue the items you listed in a new study. The fire facilities in the Villages are built and donated by the developer, a fact you seem to consistently ignore. Your BOCC also decided not to increase the maximum allowed fire assessment by more than 200% after an uproar from taxpayers. To think you can raise impact fees to reduce property taxes by 25% is just fantasy. You need to read Don Wileys posts and watch his videos. It will explain how the impact fees work.

We get it, you hate the developer for whatever reason. But starting another post on impact fees with no new or helpful information is just sad. Why not get the county budgets for the last 3 years and really see where spending is increasing and hold the BOCC to limiting or reducing expenses of all the departments? That would be a better use of your time and result in reduced taxes.

Nice Post.
Guacamole doesn't get it or doesn't care.
He/She just has the same old tired posts.
His/Her three new commissioners ended up fizzling.
Have a Great Day.

I always knew personal responsibility was just a political slogan. Are those causing the impact taking personal responsibility for the impact they make, or has the responsibility of those people, fallen to everyone?

Guacamole is either Scott Fenstermaker or someone reposting his "articles" from the online misinformation source -such as GW identified in the budget the 25% increase was not used to develop new county roads.

You seem intent on not letting the facts change your opinion, on misconstruing what I have written, and on making an ad hominem argument instead addressing the issues. BTW, my latest post is an update on the most important financial issue facing residents of Sumter County. Hopefully those readers who have not had time to follow this rather complex situation will find it helpful.

You are right, however, when you indicate that the 4-to-1 vote marks a major victory for the Developer and a major defeat for the current residents of Sumter County. It resulted from the new state legislation, co-sponsored by the Developer's employee Brett Hage, handcuffing the ability of local governments to make developers pay for their infrastructure. In any event, the remaining two Developer Commissioners and his state Representative Hage are all up for re-election next year. If Sumter County voters continue the reform momentum of last year, all three of those individuals will be tossed out.

As I clearly said in my original post, the Developer has, indeed, apparently been successful in frustrating the will of the voters. Last year, Sumter County residents, by overwhelmingly tossing out three of the Developer's five puppet Commissioners-- voted in favor of the Developer's (not the current residents) paying for ALL the Developer's County infrastructure, not just 40% of the cost of his roads, as he is presently doing.

I could be wrong, but I think the outrage of the tax increase is in most people’s rear view mirror. After all... have we seen the roll back of the 25% tax increase? In fact, what have we seen from the 3 new commissioners? So now you want me to vote in 2 more “democrats running on the republican ticket” commissioners so I can see even more gridlock?
I’m not saying I’ll vote for the two current commissioners, but I can guarantee I’m not going to vote for anyone backed by the EMS team. All I’ve seen from them is whining because they’ve been outplayed. I need more savvy commissioners who know how to get things done.

Nope.
A ToTV poster who:
Reposts old information.
Voted for the 3 new commissioners.
Thought the 25% was going to be reversed.
Has something against TV Developer.
Thinks TV Developer controls everything in Florida.
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