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Worldseries27 07-18-2022 04:58 AM

Deja vu all over again
 
Sounds like
read
my
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MandoMan 07-18-2022 05:07 AM

May I point out an error in your epigram from Thomas Paine’s “Common Sense”?

You quote it as “Society is produced by our wants, and government by wickedness; the former promotes our happiness positively by uniting our affections, the latter negatively by restraining our voices.”

The correct word is VICES, not VOICES. The role of government is keeping us from exercising our bad habits, not taping our mouths shut.

Annie66 07-18-2022 05:56 AM

Let's presume for a moment that voters reject the IFD in November. What happens then? I've not seen discussion on this issue.

Luggage 07-18-2022 06:12 AM

Well done, may I add, you should compare fire cost services in lake county next door as well per Capita. Currently per residence it's $201 and villagers pay 124

Luggage 07-18-2022 06:14 AM

More
 
Further, who will run these depts, are new positions being considered.
( High salaries ? )

Veracity 07-18-2022 06:27 AM

Thank you, Commissioner Wiley, for posting this important information. I also agree with you about these fear mongering “experts” who are now Sumter County commissioner candidates, especially the one who sat on the ambulance-transport committee that (by his own admission) was a total disaster.

jrref 07-18-2022 06:35 AM

Thanks Don! Keep up the good work!

JSR22 07-18-2022 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luggage (Post 2116653)
Further, who will run these depts, are new positions being considered.
( High salaries ? )

You don't live here. Why do you care?

Dilligas 07-18-2022 06:57 AM

Thanks for facts & not opinions
 
Thank you Don for the facts and not opinions of the facts. You have always laid things out for us to understand and decide.

mikreb 07-18-2022 06:58 AM

Thanks Don. An in-depth explanation of the PWAC split would be appreciated as well.

Romad 07-18-2022 07:00 AM

1. The cost will be established by unelected people, not necessarily from TV.
2. The actual cost per homeowner won’t be known until June 2023.
3. The assessment will be based on actual home values instead of assessed value. Who determines them?

While Mr. Wiley’s response is long, he failed to address why so many were concerned about the cost last Thursday. If he was there, why didn’t he speak up?

If you thought the 25% tax increase over the roads was bad, you haven’t seen anything yet.

I think more of us would be interested in the cost for one fire department in Sumter county instead of two.

Bill14564 07-18-2022 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Romad (Post 2116667)
1. The cost will be established by unelected people, not necessarily from TV.
2. The actual cost per homeowner won’t be known until June 2023.
3. The assessment will be based on actual home values instead of assessed value. Who determines them?

While Mr. Wiley’s response is long, he failed to address why so many were concerned about the cost last Thursday. If he was there, why didn’t he speak up?

If you thought the 25% tax increase over the roads was bad, you haven’t seen anything yet.

I think more of us would be interested in the cost for one fire department in Sumter county instead of two.

Who is "us" and what does that have to do with the funding of the IFD?

- Most of "us" in the Villages have expressed time and again our desire to have a VPSD separate from the Sumter County Fire Department (SCFD).

- The discussion of funding has nothing to do with a separate fire department. The VPSD exists today and it will exist after the election. If the IFD is approved then the VPSD would have its own funding source and would be further removed from decisions of the Sumter County Commissioners. But even without the IFD, the VPSD will exist separate from SCFD.

Using Mr. Wiley's information along with the information that has been provided by the VPSD, I would expect to see my taxes increase by at most 0.1 mils or less than 2%. Yes, the actual numbers will not be known until July/August 2023 when the budgets are put together and things may change by then. We have to decide whether we trust the numbers the VPSD and Mr. Wiley have provided. I know I do.

Sunflower33 07-18-2022 08:04 AM

Thanks Don great explanation

Bogie Shooter 07-18-2022 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luggage (Post 2116653)
Further, who will run these depts, are new positions being considered.
( High salaries ? )

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSR22 (Post 2116659)
You don't live here. Why do you care?

Seems like a reasonable question…….we are waiting.

Travelhunter123 07-18-2022 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2116679)
Who is "us" and what does that have to do with the funding of the IFD?

- Most of "us" in the Villages have expressed time and again our desire to have a VPSD separate from the Sumter County Fire Department (SCFD).

- The discussion of funding has nothing to do with a separate fire department. The VPSD exists today and it will exist after the election. If the IFD is approved then the VPSD would have its own funding source and would be further removed from decisions of the Sumter County Commissioners. But even without the IFD, the VPSD will exist separate from SCFD.

Using Mr. Wiley's information along with the information that has been provided by the VPSD, I would expect to see my taxes increase by at most 0.1 mils or less than 2%. Yes, the actual numbers will not be known until July/August 2023 when the budgets are put together and things may change by then. We have to decide whether we trust the numbers the VPSD and Mr. Wiley have provided. I know I do.

I agree completely with the concept and improved response time.
The controversy’s seem to be the complexity and lack of firm budgets and estimates .
We are being asked to take a “leap of faith” and trust the impact is approximately cost neutral.
It would be easier to decide if the proponents provided a firm not to exceed budget of + or - X percent


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