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JMintzer 10-17-2022 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 2147932)
Quit telling people how to vote. We’re all capable of making our own decisions.

Again. Are you an elected official? A board member of one of the homeowners groups or just a concerned citizen? Just trying to determine your motivation in this whole thing. You seem to be more vested than most.

"Please vote no" is TELLING people how to vote?

I read it as his opinion and a request...

oldtimes 10-17-2022 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrs.Guy (Post 2147960)
:confused: I too am trying to determine his motivation. I find it hard to believe that a Villager wants Sumter Co.(the people that gave us AMR) to stay in control of our VPSD. What am I missing?

Absolutely agree. This poster sounds like more than a concerned Villager.

oldtimes 10-17-2022 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2147998)
"Please vote no" is TELLING people how to vote?

I read it as his opinion and a request...

“Please forward to fellow villagers . . . . . .“ sounds like more than a request

dewilson58 10-17-2022 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 2147932)
Just trying to determine your motivation in this whole thing.

Lives in NYC.................need to know anything more???

:evil6:

dewilson58 10-17-2022 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by kaznerm (Post 2147101)
You have explained how the issue could financially affect us, but what I would like to know is how our fire services would change if the measure is passed.

That can not be answered.............changes will be determined by FD Leadership in place in the future (may be new leadership, may be the same leadership).

Bill14564 10-17-2022 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2147985)
Have not heard this.................please share your supporting data and source.

There is this: https://www.**************.com/2021/06/24/the-villages-fire-chief-contends-fire-departments-should-take-over-ambulance-operations/ (replace the broken link with the news-site-that-shall-not-be-named). I'm sure there are documents on the ad-hoc committee pages that support this as well but I haven't taken the time to find them yet.

dewilson58 10-17-2022 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2148015)
There is this:

Over one and a half years old news.

Babubhat 10-17-2022 06:14 PM

If it can’t be explained in one paragraph forget it. Don’t expect a complicated matter to turn out well with the usual suspects involved

Bill14564 10-17-2022 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2148017)
Over one and a half years old news.

What you missed....

About one and a half years ago a commission was put together to look for solutions to the ambulance response times. The ultimate outcome of that effort was adding ambulance service to both the VPSD and the SCFD beginning the first of this month. Service did start under the VPSD but I think there is a delay with the SCFD side of things.

Recent articles have mentioned the large number of calls that have been received and the good response times in the Villages. Hopefully, that continues in the Villages and is also seen in the rest of the county once the SCFD begins providing that service.

During the vote of the ad-hoc committee, a motion was made and seconded to combine the VPSD and SCFD rather than keeping them separate. The motion was defeated at the time but some link the current push for the IFD back to that motion. One of those on the ad-hoc committee who was associated with that motion is a newly elected commissioner. The IFD would protect the VPSD from that same motion being made at the BoCC level.

dewilson58 10-17-2022 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Babubhat (Post 2148018)
If it can’t be explained in one paragraph forget it. Don’t expect a complicated matter to turn out well with the usual suspects involved

I know what you are saying..........about the Usuals.

But, there are people who will read and will analyze and will educate themself.

I have extensive experience with city, county and state fund accounting and budgeting and Don did a great job accurately explaining.

I believe there are some who learned.

The Usuals, they will continue.

:pepper2:

Bilyclub 10-17-2022 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2147984)
what battle??


The impact fee increase that never happened.

Stu from NYC 10-17-2022 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bilyclub (Post 2148052)
The impact fee increase that never happened.

The developer did have his executive vp who was also in the Fl legislature put forth legislation that he wanted passed. Than he hired a law firm to dig up dirt on the three newly elected commissioners. In other words what the developers wants he does get

dewilson58 10-18-2022 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Bilyclub (Post 2148052)
The impact fee increase that never happened.

If that was a battle, the battle was over before the first swing.

That was no battle.

That was a silly campaign promise, promised by inexperienced candidates, an believed by some voters.

Bill14564 10-18-2022 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2148082)
If that was a battle, the battle was over before the first swing.

That was no battle.

That was a silly campaign promise, promised by inexperienced candidates, an believed by some voters.

I have to disagree in part. The voters (some) believed the BoCC had some control over how the county was run. The promise was kept and the measure was passed to raise the road impact fees.

As it turns out, in reality neither the BoCC nor the voters control the county: the decision was taken out of their hands and the commissioners were removed from the BoCC.

dewilson58 10-18-2022 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2148087)
The promise was kept and the measure was passed to raise the road impact fees.

The silly promise was, reversing the 25% increase in RE Taxes by increasing the Impact Fee................that was never going to happen.

Voters didn't care about a minor increase in the Impact Fee...........they wanted the 25% reversed.


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