Originally Posted by allsport (Post 1803437)

Don't count on the politicians because they do not know what they are doing. Pathetic.

Originally Posted by bobm3 (Post 1803475)

Thanks GoodLife. Only having 7 ICU beds available in Sumpter County is not reassuring!

Originally Posted by Tom2172 (Post 1803313)

How many of the Fl Cases are real
Fox 35 Orlando discovered major Covid reporting fraud!
Very little news is actually real - it’s all political propaganda
Manipulated to create panic just like KillerCuomo did in NY

Originally Posted by roscoguy (Post 1803503)

Where or when did they say "fraud"? The news report I saw said only that "FOX 35 News noticed errors in the state's report on positivity rates" & never even implied fraud. Could that be your interpretation?
The same report also said this, "The growing caseload is partly driven by increased testing, but a larger percentage of tests are coming back positive, jumping from 6 percent a month ago to more than 18 percent."

Originally Posted by Northwoods (Post 1803044)

I am a patient of The Villages Health. Their Chief Medical Officer just sent a message to all patients updating them about COVID-19. The letter is longer than the segment below, but I wanted to share some interesting statistics about local hospitalizations. I have not seen specific local hospitalization numbers anywhere.

Cases of COVID-19 are increasing in Florida and locally. Today, there are 549 cases in Sumter County, with 162 occurring in the last week. In Lake County, there are 2,158 cases with 674 occurring in the last week. In Marion County, there are 1,156 cases with 379 occurring in the last week. As of this morning, there are 15 patients in the UF The Villages Hospital and 36 in UF Leesburg Hospital.16 of these patients are in intensive care.

The upward trend is accelerating and the number of known cases among 15- to 35-year-olds is surpassing those of adults aged 55 and older. While younger individuals are typically more able to tolerate and survive the infection, older individuals are at higher risk for more serious outcomes related to this infection.

Originally Posted by Jazzman (Post 1803110)

I think much of your assessment is correct and specifically your comment regarding the political divide and it’s impact. An example is the number of appearances by Dr. Fauci in front of multiple Congressional committees. Why isn’t Dr. Birx invited to testify? In my opinion she deals with data and facts and can explain where hot spots are developing, where there’s a need to increase testing, etc. Yes a little boring but that’s what facts are versus talking about anything and everything except any plan to specifically address the issue. Yes there are a lot of cases in Florida. Fifteen thousand in one day this past Sunday, yet the number of deaths that are attributed to the virus on Sunday in Florida, around 45 per the Johns Hopkins site. We don’t hear about the number of deaths anymore. And the virus is making a comeback in other parts of the world where strict measures were in place way before the US implemented measures..

Originally Posted by Tom2172 (Post 1803313)

How many of the Fl Cases are real
Fox 35 Orlando discovered major Covid reporting fraud!
Very little news is actually real - it’s all political propaganda
Manipulated to create panic just like KillerCuomo did in NY

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1803556)

Blame the media. Fake news. The world is flat. Science is EVIL! Yeah right. Gov. Cuomo was a politician to be proud of. What America used to expect, a transparent truth teller. For example-- Washington told the CDC to give statistics to the politicals-who will hide and massage them. Cuomo did NOT do that, he did the opposite.

Originally Posted by wilkinson (Post 1803370)

There IS somone in charge - it is YOU and ME. We all know the facts. Some ignorant people aren't wearing masks despite every official on public health person is telling you to wear a mask. CONFRONT every person you see without a mask - it is our duty to wear masks.

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1803383)

I believe that Fox 35 reported that one lab was reporting all positives. It is not "all political propaganda manipulated to create panic".

Two people that we have known for more than fifty years died earlier this month in Cincinnati. They were securely and happily and delightfully married to each other and their children were friends of our children and I taught two of their granddaughters in nursery school. These very real people died within days of each other of Covid-19. We had enjoyed pictures of them earlier in the year enjoying family get togethers and in good health for their age. Two of our friends here in The Villages were sickened with Covid-19 after eating with a group of ten at Orange Blossom Gardens on St. Patrick's day. Six of the group became sick with the virus. Our friends, one was hospitalized in Ocala in intensive care for ten days and the other was very sick at home and had to be taken by ambulance to emergency room for dehydration. It isn't a seasonal virus. It is a nasty bug that is particularly dangerous to people over 65.

I am aggravated that the numbers that we are given on cases are suspect. I am mad that we cannot trust our own government for the truth and I am very aware that if we close down business we all will suffer enormously and that too will dangerously affect us all. Life runs on money.

All we can do is stay away from groups and wear a mask and wash our hands and try not to harm people who say it is all a hoax. It is a political football to be sure in my opinion.

And I just read back on the past posts of this poster and I usually agree with him. I just get so tired of people saying this isn't a dangerous situation for us.

Originally Posted by paulajr (Post 1803400)

If someone “confronts” me....it is not going to end well. I wear a mask when I feel I need to, but the “mask police” need to get a grip.
As for the response elsewhere that ONE lab had misreported numbers...read the info...it was a lot more than one ...

Originally Posted by Robertnavarre70 (Post 1803554)

Still can't figure out why everyone doesn't simply wear a mask when around others and focus on social distancing. THAT is the solution...and it's not political or racial....just smart

Originally Posted by rphil11ort (Post 1803676)

i would rather know how many in the villages. last i heard only 280. and that was a spike from 208

Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1803415)

Read the Fox 35 article again

Countless labs have reported a 100 percent positivity rate, which means every single person tested was positive

FOX 35 INVESTIGATES: Florida Department of Health says some labs have not reported negative COVID-19 results

333 labs in Florida reported 100% positive tests, zero negatives, this info is on the State's website. This is a fact. The state has acknowledged the problem.

Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1803506)

When you have 333 labs report only positive test results, how accurate do you think the state reports on positivity percentages are? Answer: Not very

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1803457)

Does that mean that 333 labs in Florida only reported their positive tests and NOT their negative tests?

Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1803469)

Yes

Originally Posted by roscoguy (Post 1803840)

"Errors" is not equal to "fraud". As has already been discussed in this thread, the labs are not being accused of reporting false positives, merely not reporting the negative tests.


It definitely affects accuracy of infection rates, but would seem to have no bearing on total number of positive tests. To call this "fraud" is extremely misleading & biased.

Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1803557)

I love the name “KillerCuomo” he did help kill Covid for NY, although I don’t ever go to NY, I watched his efforts every day. May someone do the same for Florida!

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1803562)

I would suggest caution and politeness and respect and forbearance even. I would NOT do that. Confrontation makes everything black and white. It HARDENS opinions. Just be a role model and wear yours. The long term results will be the same. The US will eventually learn the lessons that Japan and S. Korea now know. The US is a world-class slow learner due to an inflated sense of self-worth and mistaken confidence. People are starting to get the hint even here in the Villiages. Only survival and self preservation is at stake and will WIN out eventually.

Originally Posted by Paporter (Post 1803941)

Should visitors, be given guest passes based on a certified negative COVID test, within 5 days of the request for the pass? There appears to be an uptake in short term rentals, could this be a contributing factor?

Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1803886)

Arguing with a strawman again? Please quote me where I said it was fraud. I found out about this before the media was on it and don't need any lectures. Here is what I said in the thread I started about the errors.

There is a problem in that 100s of Florida labs are only reporting positive tests, not negative tests. This doesn't mean the total for positive tests is inaccurate, it means the percentage of positive test they show every day on the dashboard is inaccurate. If you don't report negative tests, your percentage of positives will be higher than it really is.

Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 1804427)

Does anyone understand what this poster is asking?

Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 1804427)

Does anyone understand what this poster is asking?

Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1803469)

Yes

Originally Posted by xcaligirl (Post 1804628)

I wish they could break down the numbers for the Villages. Marion County is a large county with a very small portion in the Villages. Same with Sumter and Lake. Seems like all the reports want to scare the people in the Villages thinking the cases are all here.