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Advogado 08-17-2020 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Dlbonivich (Post 1817692)
I would be careful, the funding for the 3 men running against the incumbents have their own agenda that cost money to implement and they all cost
money. If they are rolling back the tax increase where are they going to get the money for their projects? They will be cutting something, maybe the entertainment money will be for the new no kill shelter.

The EMS team does not accept donations from corporations and similar entities. They will represent the residents. Consequently, they have collected a pittance compared to the roughly quarter of a million dollars the Developer has contributed to his puppets. Wake up as to what is going on here!

Verify all the above on the Sumter County elections website.

Advogado 08-17-2020 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1818110)
As always a voice of reason. These new voices seem to be trying to paint a different picture but you are right.

We have had a lot of new voices on this issue on this thread. I am always a skeptic and wonder who and what the agenda is behind this push to get the incumbents out. I am pretty sure I know. I hope the same majority will still vote the way they have for as long as we have lived here. This new group who wants change looks real wrong to me.

This is a CDD which is an unusual and workable way to run things. I think it beats the hell out of how most municipalities are run. There seems a push to make it more like Orlando? No thank you. I like this way and the CDD way of doing stuff. Long live the Morses and I hope the incumbent commissioners continue.

Nobody with a minimal understanding of the situation claims your total tax bill went up 25%.

Your total tax bill is totally irrelevant in evaluating the County Commissioners. They are responsible only for your County Tax. That tax went up 25% for one reason: to divert hundreds of millions of dollars of our taxpayer dollars to the Developer by preserving his sweetheart impact fee while increasing our taxes to pay for County infrastructure that should be paid for with his impact fee.

Advogado 08-17-2020 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Singerlady (Post 1817746)
One out of 3 commissioners said that? That doesn’t get a vote passed. I’ll wait and see and take my chances.

He never said it, so don't worry about it. To learn about the EMS team, just click here: Fair Government For Sumter.

Advogado 08-17-2020 10:37 AM

To understand who is funding the Developer's puppets, click here and click on their names: Candidate Reports

Then Google: Good Government for Florida, Inc., and look at who is funding that to further circumvent the $1,000 per-candidate contribution limit.

Also, look at who was behind running fake candidates Wahl and Prince to disenfranchise over 45,000 voters.

Northwoods 08-17-2020 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Advogado (Post 1818942)
He never said it, so don't worry about it. To learn about the EMS team, just click here: Fair Government For Sumter.

He absolutely said he would not vote to have $120,000 of Sumter County Tourism tax go toward Square Entertainment. See proof below. Now... recently he changed his position and said, based on resident feedback, he has reconsidered his position. So, I think he listened to people who were concerned by his initial stance.

Advogado - when you make statements like "he never said that" and there is proof that he did say it, it makes people question other comments you might make about the race.

Advogado 08-17-2020 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Northwoods (Post 1819140)
He absolutely said he would not vote to have $120,000 of Sumter County Tourism tax go toward Square Entertainment. See proof below. Now... recently he changed his position and said, based on resident feedback, he has reconsidered his position. So, I think he listened to people who were concerned by his initial stance.

Advogado - when you make statements like "he never said that" and there is proof that he did say it, it makes people question other comments you might make about the race.

Good point on your part. When I talked to Oren, he said he was not in favor of defunding the Squares. I was under the impression that he had never said the contrary. You are right; I should not have made the statement that I did without double checking. Sorry about that.

Northwoods 08-17-2020 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Advogado (Post 1819144)
Good point on your part. When I talked to Oren, he said he was not in favor of defunding the Squares. I was under the impression that he had never said the contrary. You are right; I should not have made the statement that I did without double checking. Sorry about that.

No harm no foul. I give you a lot of credit for your post.

MrGolf 08-18-2020 05:09 AM

Skip. Just pulled my tax bill and the Sumter County property tax portion which the the one we are discussing increased by 25.5% from 2018 to 2019. Calculated by dividing 2019 millage rate of 6.7 by the 2018 millage rate of5.3365 which if my math is correct comes to an increase of 25.550454%. If yours didn’t, I am surprised

skip0358 08-18-2020 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by MrGolf (Post 1819162)
Skip. Just pulled my tax bill and the Sumter County property tax portion which the the one we are discussing increased by 25.5% from 2018 to 2019. Calculated by dividing 2019 millage rate of 6.7 by the 2018 millage rate of5.3365 which if my math is correct comes to an increase of 25.550454%. If yours didn’t, I am surprised

I said total tax bill because that's what I pay period! I also said some items go up and others go down.

angiefox10 08-18-2020 06:17 AM

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PugMom 08-18-2020 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DeanFL (Post 1817736)
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Re the Sumpter election. I did research myself. Mail ads etc etc do little to nothing to persuade me. It's Marketing. If that type of Marketing impacted my actions, I would have died by now in order to take advantage of the Cremation ads. And shop at Bed Bath Beyond every day to redeem those 20% coupons.

So my research brought out several videos taken by constituents at Commision meetings. I was disgusted to see how memebrs of the public were treated by some of these members up for re-election. I was registered NPA (unable to vote in the Sumpter primary). I went to the County office to change my 'affiliation' to Rep in order to vote in this primary. I got a ballot by mail and did my duty. My better 1/2 likes to vote at the poll, and she did. And we both will switch back to NPA as we are both independent. But we simply could NOT sit back after seeing how consituents were treated by the 3 encumbents.

$$$$ drives politics from the Local Dog Catcher to the Federal President. It's worse now than ever. Sad but it is what it is. All these ads etc have little impact to me.

But that Cremation Society thing is beginning to appeal to me....
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good post! informed yet quite pleasant. imagine that in today's society :icon_wink:

PugMom 08-18-2020 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by skip0358 (Post 1818301)
My tax bill went up 6.2% from the previous year period. That's a far cry from 25%. I pulled the bills out and checked!

dittos. some will complain about anything & everything. it's still very inexpensive compared to other parts of the country. imagine having to pay up to 10grand a year in property taxes alone, & theVillages is suddenly a wonderful place to be. all we need is in one beautiful area, & we could'nt be happier

Stu from NYC 08-18-2020 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by skip0358 (Post 1819182)
I said total tax bill because that's what I pay period! I also said some items go up and others go down.

And the real estate tax part of the bill went up by 25%.

biker1 08-18-2020 09:38 AM

You are absolutely correct. I have posted about this in the past. The "county tax" went up by 25%, perhaps more if your assessed value also increased. The "school tax" remained essentially unchanged, and is about the same amount as the "county tax". There are some other non ad valorem line items that remained essentially unchanged. And, of course, the bond payment, if you haven't paid off your bond, also shows up on the "total tax bill" along with the items above. If you computed the increase in the "total tax" bill and you haven't paid off your bond then the increase may very well be below 10%, depending on the value of your house and the amount of your bond payment. The "county tax" did increase by 25% (or more) - this cannot be disputed.

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1819287)
And the real estate tax part of the bill went up by 25%.


Stu from NYC 08-18-2020 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 1819338)
You are absolutely correct. I have posted about this in the past. The "county tax" went up by 25%, perhaps more if your assessed value also increased. The "school tax" remained essentially unchanged, and is about the same amount as the "county tax". There are some other non ad valorem line items that remained essentially unchanged. And, of course, the bond payment, if you haven't paid off your bond, also shows up on the "total tax bill" along with the items above. If you computed the increase in the "total tax" bill and you haven't paid off your bond then the increase may very well be below 10%, depending on the value of your house and the amount of your bond payment. The "county tax" did increase by 25% (or more) - this cannot be disputed.

Some people like to play with numbers and think we should forget about the county tax increase as something of a good thing.


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