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Debfrommaine 06-19-2022 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 2107788)
We have friends in Briar Meadows, you can't get much further north than that and the lots are so small you can talk to your neighbor from the lanai without raising your voice. We live south of 44 and our lots are much larger. We also have a friend in Caroline his lot is extremely small and he's on a cul-de-sac. So I guess there are small and larger in all the different villages and a lot of that depends on the series of home you have. Ranches and cottages have smaller lots than do designers.

We had a designer in Bonita, first house, gorgeous so we fell for looks instead of being practical for our lifestyle. We had very nice neighbors but we could see what they had for breakfast since our lanai was, while raised, too close for comfort. Third house, with a cement walk behind it, while private, we could hear too many conversations. Current home on a pond, private and open space....serenity. Bond less than up north...life is good for us.

Dani & Bill 06-19-2022 03:22 PM

We utilize a “No Broker Agreement”. I hope this answers your questions. :)

Rango 06-19-2022 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 2106939)
Just the opposite for us, we told our Villages Sales Professional, Beth Pope where we wanted to look which was around 466A, she took us to several homes, some we found, some she found, there was something we didn't like about all of them. The next day she picked us up and took us to the new homes, we bought one within 30 minutes. It was good to do it that way as we were able to see how much more we were getting for a lot less money by choosing a new home.

Beth Pope is an excellent agent!

EdFNJ 06-19-2022 10:48 PM

2/2 Colony next door to us with really nice improvements has been up for sale by TV sales folks over 6 weeks with multiple open houses. It seems a little overpriced but another identical home behind us with just about no improvements a few months ago sold for asking price in a matter of days which was close to what he is asking but it probably would have sold in 2 hours about 3 months ago. Last conversation with him he hadn't even got an offer. Seems prices will stay high for a while until people realize changes are either in the wind or already passed wind. ;)

jrref 06-20-2022 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 2108153)
2/2 Colony next door to us with really nice improvements has been up for sale by TV sales folks over 6 weeks with multiple open houses. It seems a little overpriced but another identical home behind us with just about no improvements a few months ago sold for asking price in a matter of days which was close to what he is asking but it probably would have sold in 2 hours about 3 months ago. Last conversation with him he hadn't even got an offer. Seems prices will stay high for a while until people realize changes are either in the wind or already passed wind. ;)

I think the problem is many new buyers are now more cautious for many reasons stated which is why homes are not being sold the same day. My realtor says the frenzy is basically over. The only homes that sell quickly are ones that are upgraded, move in ready and priced correctly.

Also a lot of recent existing home sales are by people wanting to cash in give where the market went. The problem is now it's too late. Many are going to be very disappointed.

Laker14 06-20-2022 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Dani & Bill (Post 2108111)
You may want to find another ‘valued resource’ for your information. We ARE licensed agents but we do NOT belong to the NAR. We DO listen to the clients needs and assist accordingly, furthermore, we cannot MAKE you purchase ANYTHING.

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 2108112)
Can you act as buyers' agents on resales and if so have you ever done so?

When you sell new homes do you act as a transactional agent or do you represent the developer?

Does the developer motivate you financially or otherwise to steer buyers to new homes?

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Originally Posted by Dani & Bill (Post 2108122)
We utilize a “No Broker Agreement”. I hope this answers your questions. :)

I don't think that answers any questions until you explain what a "No Broker Agreement" means for the buyers and the sellers.

How about direct "yes" or "no" answers to the 3 questions posed?

Stu from NYC 06-20-2022 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jrref (Post 2108210)
I think the problem is many new buyers are now more cautious for many reasons stated which is why homes are not being sold the same day. My realtor says the frenzy is basically over. The only homes that sell quickly are ones that are upgraded, move in ready and priced correctly.

Also a lot of recent existing home sales are by people wanting to cash in give where the market went. The problem is now it's too late. Many are going to be very disappointed.

The problem with cashing in is where do you go from here?

Papa_lecki 06-20-2022 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2108239)
I don't think that answers any questions until you explain what a "No Broker Agreement" means for the buyers and the sellers.

How about direct "yes" or "no" answers to the 3 questions posed?

Not a lawyer, but Google told me

“A no brokerage relationship or non representation takes place when the broker is not directly involved in buying or selling of the property. he/she just facilitates the listing of the property for which he/she can be paid a certain amount.“

RPDaly 06-20-2022 08:30 AM

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Robbb 06-20-2022 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2107014)
I've been following the listings on Trulia for a few years. Especially between 466 and 466A, and inside, or in near proximity of the Odell-Bailey Trail loop. There are definitely more homes on the market listed in that broad area now than there ever were, from Spring of '21, through January or February of '22. And I'm seeing more price reductions. Some of the price reductions seemed to me to be from incredibly ridiculous down to very optimistic. It's hard to say for sure because I don't walk through the houses. Maybe there is something really special that just didn't come through in the listing. I doubt it. More likely to me is the idea that folks were hearing about crazy prices, and thought they might as well cash in. Maybe 6-8 months ago, but not now.

I think you are absolutely correct. I have been following homes for about 6 months and seems to me as though home sellers are testing the top of the market by pricing their homes at ridiculous values, counting on the "greater fool" principal to see if someone will fall for it.

manaboutown 06-20-2022 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Dani & Bill (Post 2108122)
We utilize a “No Broker Agreement”. I hope this answers your questions. :)

Not this one: Does the developer motivate you financially or otherwise to steer buyers to new homes?

No free meals in the private dining room, rides on any of the jets in the Morse Air Force, big game hunting on the developer's ranches out west?

So you never even act as a transactional broker on behalf of a seller and/or buyer and hence entirely avoid agency except in the case of the developer's interest?

Do you give your customers this notice?

"NO BROKERAGE RELATIONSHIP NOTICE

FLORIDA LAW REQUIRES THAT REAL ESTATE LICENSEES WHO HAVE NO BROKERAGE RELATIONSHIP WITH A POTENTIAL SELLER OR BUYER DISCLOSE THEIR DUTIES TO SELLERS AND BUYERS.

As a real estate licensee who has no brokerage relationship with you, (insert name of Real Estate Entity and its Associates) owe to you the following duties:
1. Dealing honestly and fairly;
2. Disclosing all known facts that materially affect the value of residential real property which are not readily observable to the buyer.
3. Accounting for all funds entrusted to the licensee.
(Date) (Signature)

(5) APPLICABILITY.—
(a) Residential sales.—The real estate licensee disclosure requirements of this section apply to all residential sales. As used in this subsection, the term “residential sale” means the sale of improved residential property of four units or fewer, the sale of unimproved residential property intended for use of four units or fewer, or the sale of agricultural property of 10 acres or fewer.
(b) Disclosure limitations.—
1. The real estate disclosure requirements of this section do not apply when a licensee knows that the potential seller or buyer is represented by a single agent or a transaction broker; or when an owner is selling new residential units built by the owner and the circumstances or setting should reasonably inform the potential buyer that the owner’s employee or single agent is acting on behalf of the owner, whether because of the location of the sales office or because of office signage or placards or identification badges worn by the owner’s employee or single agent.
2. The real estate licensee disclosure requirements of this section do not apply to: nonresidential transactions; the rental or leasing of real property, unless an option to purchase all or a portion of the property improved with four or fewer residential units is given; a bona fide “open house” or model home showing that does not involve eliciting confidential information, the execution of a contractual offer or an agreement for representation, or negotiations concerning price, terms, or conditions of a potential sale; unanticipated casual conversations between a licensee and a seller or buyer which do not involve eliciting confidential information, the execution of a contractual offer or agreement for representation, or negotiations concerning price, terms, or conditions of a potential sale; responding to general factual questions from a potential buyer or seller concerning properties that have been advertised for sale; situations in which a licensee’s communications with a potential buyer or seller are limited to providing general factual information, oral or written, about the qualifications, background, and services of the licensee or the licensee’s brokerage firm; auctions; appraisals; and dispositions of any interest in business enterprises or business opportunities, except for property with four or fewer residential units."

From: Statutes & Constitution
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jrref 06-20-2022 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2108241)
The problem with cashing in is where do you go from here?

The Villages is relatively expensive but that's because of all that you get. Some people move to smaller and older communities where homes could be a little cheaper. But you are right, it's not going to be a lot cheaper for the same type of home.

Laker14 06-20-2022 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RPDaly (Post 2108247)
Do a lot of retired folks that came down here recently after cashing out elsewhere really need to take out a mortgage? How do you even qualify for one without a job? No mortgage was on the top of my list of things I did not want any longer in life. We purchased a property at a price to accomplish that. Plus take a look at the bonds on the new builds. That is almost a mortgage in it's self and the rates are only climbing.

we took out a mortgage because we didn't cash out up north. We still have our northern home. We had to show our income stream from our Social Security and our IRAs etc. I think many do sell their "northern" home and have the cash to not take out a mortgage.

Laker14 06-20-2022 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dani & Bill (Post 2108122)
We utilize a “No Broker Agreement”. I hope this answers your questions. :)

I'm not trying to beat you up, but I do hope you'll come back to the thread and answer the specific questions.

When we were buying our home we used two brokers. One from The Villages, and one from an MLS company. A new build was not in our plans and our Villages agent never tried to push us into anything. The MLS agent signed a contract with me stating that he was acting as MY fiduciary, and he did well. The only reason he got the sale was that the house we decided on was an MLS listing, not a Villages resale.

I would have been OK with the Villages agent and sale if she'd had the house we wanted, but I would also have had my eyes wide open as far as whose interests she was primarily advancing.

manaboutown 06-21-2022 09:30 AM

Sales of Previously Owned Homes Fall to an Almost Two-Year Low

dewilson58 06-21-2022 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 2108669)

That's not saying much............the market was crazy for two years.

manaboutown 06-21-2022 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2108673)
That's not saying much............the market was crazy for two years.

Yes it was. It seems the bubble is starting to deflate some.

Dallasdon 06-21-2022 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 2108669)

Related to above:
Median rents have crossed the $2,000 threshold for the first time. : NPR

Laker14 06-21-2022 12:39 PM

We seem to have lost our Villages Realty representative, and we never got any definitive answers to the questions posed.

BlueStarAirlines 06-21-2022 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2108731)
We seem to have lost our Villages Realty representative, and we never got any definitive answers to the questions posed.

It appeared there was a pretty aggressive agenda and were not honestly seeking dialogue. I don't blame them......

Laker14 06-21-2022 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueStarAirlines (Post 2108734)
It appeared there was a pretty aggressive agenda and were not honestly seeking dialogue. I don't blame them......

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Originally Posted by Dani & Bill (Post 2108111)
You may want to find another ‘valued resource’ for your information. We ARE licensed agents but we do NOT belong to the NAR. We DO listen to the clients needs and assist accordingly, furthermore, we cannot MAKE you purchase ANYTHING.

I refer you to their first post on the thread, suggesting we find another 'valued resource' for our information. When asked simple direct questions they disappeared without answering them. I thought they were offering their first hand knowledge of the role and responsibilities of Villages Realty agents as a source for our information. Evidently not.

vintageogauge 06-21-2022 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2108754)
I refer you to their first post on the thread, suggesting we find another 'valued resource' for our information. When asked simple direct questions they disappeared without answering them. I thought they were offering their first hand knowledge of the role and responsibilities of Villages Realty agents as a source for our information. Evidently not.

Not everyone is on here every day. They might be back in a couple.

Laker14 06-21-2022 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 2108782)
Not everyone is on here every day. They might be back in a couple.

Fair enough.. I hope you are right.

VApeople 06-27-2022 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by twoplanekid (Post 2106823)
However, there are now a lot more homes listed for sale on the Villages internet sales site. Has anyone else noticed this?

Yeah, I have noticed the same thing.

A couple years ago, there were 21 re-sale homes on the market in the Village of Fenney. A few months ago, there were about 6. Today there are 19.

Stu from NYC 06-27-2022 11:21 AM

Rising interest rates and fear of major recession will make housing prices drop like a rock.


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