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JWGifford 01-08-2024 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by H-ned (Post 2288716)
‘Just bought and moved into an 11 year old house in the Village of Collier. The original Hunter Pro-C (Model PCC-600i with green buttons) irrigation controller for the existing 4 zones is not wifi-capable and cannot be retrofitted to accommodate my need to occasionally monitor and change settings remotely from Atlanta. The rain sensor is also not working. Can any of you please share your best recommendations for a reliable replacement irrigation controller and rain sensor that are wifi-capable and can be controlled remotely? Thanks!

I’ve had my Rachio for going on 7 years now. Happy with it and still reliable.

TheWatcher 01-08-2024 08:37 AM

Paired a Rachio 3 with a Tempest weather station (PWS) at my house. Both are accessible online for control. You can set the Rachio to pause irrigation at whatever rainfall amount you choose using the Tempest data.

Tempest is pricey but is a no moving parts station. You can set access as public or private.

My station @ Fenney SE: Tempest

You can pair with any local station near you but be aware local conditions can vary over 'short' distances or use the nearcast feature, averages local stations.

Tempest weather stations:
Tempest Products & Services

Access Personnal Weather Stations at Weather Underground:
Local Weather Forecast, News and Conditions | Weather Underground

DanB 01-08-2024 09:48 AM

Hunter X2 and Wifi problem
 
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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2288720)
I replaced mine with the Hunter X2 and a WAND wifi module. I paid a service to replace it but after watching them I could have ordered it off Amazon and installed it myself for much less.

I did not replace the rain sensor. The combination I have uses a weather service somewhere that monitors several stations around me and makes a reasonable guess at what my weather will be. It has been pretty accurate so far.

There are at least two others that many users will recommend. I'm happy with what I have but the others might be just as good or better.

I also purchased the Hunter X2 and Wifi Wand. Worked great until it lost its internet connection, I assume from a brief power outage. Unfortunately, there is no way to reconnect to wifi without physically being there. Have not been able to change or monitor watering since outage. Read the manual or talk to mfr before purchasing if automatic reconnect after outage is important. Or, have a patient/willing neighbor that has access to the garage and house. I've had no problems losing internet with my thermostat or video connections as they automatically reconnect after power failures.

Bill14564 01-08-2024 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DanB (Post 2289075)
I also purchased the Hunter X2 and Wifi Wand. Worked great until it lost its internet connection, I assume from a brief power outage. Unfortunately, there is no way to reconnect to wifi without physically being there. Have not been able to change or monitor watering since outage. Read the manual or talk to mfr before purchasing if automatic reconnect after outage is important. Or, have a patient/willing neighbor that has access to the garage and house. I've had no problems losing internet with my thermostat or video connections as they automatically reconnect after power failures.

I guess I don't know if mine has gone through a power outage. I know it can reconnect when the wifi goes down - that has happened several times.

DStahulK 01-08-2024 10:59 AM

WiFi irrigation controller
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by H-ned (Post 2288716)
‘Just bought and moved into an 11 year old house in the Village of Collier. The original Hunter Pro-C (Model PCC-600i with green buttons) irrigation controller for the existing 4 zones is not wifi-capable and cannot be retrofitted to accommodate my need to occasionally monitor and change settings remotely from Atlanta. The rain sensor is also not working. Can any of you please share your best recommendations for a reliable replacement irrigation controller and rain sensor that are wifi-capable and can be controlled remotely? Thanks!

I purchased a Rachio 3 controller and I’m very pleased with it. Easy to install, it took about twenty minutes and easy to program. It uses local weather stations to monitor your area. It has seasonal adjustments for when you should reduce your watering (ie winter when your grass goes dormant) and moisture content or rain. It has cut our water usage almost in half. Love it!

polirudb 01-09-2024 10:16 PM

I highly recommend the Rachio Black 6 zone controller. I normally sells for $169.00 and is now available for either $119.00 or $99.00. It is the professional version of the Rachio 3 4 zone controller. It comes with 6 zone capability instead of 4 zone, a four year warranty instead of a two year, free valve monitoring (about a $30.00 value), and one or two other enhancements. It is black in color instead of white. The deal is a no-brainer if you are buying a Rachio product. You will pay more for less anywhere else. I have helped install several of them, including my own. Very simple installation, less than 30 minutes. To get the deal, go to their website (rachio.com), sit on the home page for a few minutes, and a $50.00 pop-up coupon should appear in exchange for you signing up for text messages from them. Alternatively, you can add the item to your cart and at checkout, enter coupon code "rachioblack" or "blackrachio". Sometimes that works, sometimes it doesn't. If it works for you, it will drop the price $70.00 to $99.00. No, I don't work for the company. I have used Rachio for over a year now and it has literally saved me hundreds of dollars compared to the same period a year earlier. They offer a first responder, military, and educational discount through id.me, though I am not sure if coupons are stackable.

kkingston57 01-10-2024 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H-ned (Post 2288716)
‘Just bought and moved into an 11 year old house in the Village of Collier. The original Hunter Pro-C (Model PCC-600i with green buttons) irrigation controller for the existing 4 zones is not wifi-capable and cannot be retrofitted to accommodate my need to occasionally monitor and change settings remotely from Atlanta. The rain sensor is also not working. Can any of you please share your best recommendations for a reliable replacement irrigation controller and rain sensor that are wifi-capable and can be controlled remotely? Thanks!

Stay away from the rain sensor(s). They are un reliable and require maintenance. Sprinklers should be run in early AM. Rain usually comes in the afternoon. Chances of your sprinkler running when rain hits are not good.

justjim 01-10-2024 11:53 AM

Weather Station
 
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Originally Posted by rsmurano (Post 2288955)
Orbit b-hyve. My last couple houses had them and I converted a dozen of my friends to b-hyve. I tried putting in the wand in the new hunter controller, what a piece of junk. The wand cost 2x the cost of the b-hyve. I can be anywhere in the world and operate my controller.

1 more tip, it’s a fallacy to think you can connect to any weather station and get a reliable reading of the weather. You can’t. Unless the weather station is within a couple of blocks from your home, then you aren’t going to get an accurate reading of wind and rain that your smart controller will need. I put in my own personal weather station and all of my data from this weather station is up on weather underground and other country wide weather databases so your smart controller and all your close neighbors have a PWS they can link too

Spot on regarding weather station reliability. The Villages is huge. The fact it’s raining in The Villages likely means little or nothing as to your specific house location.

photo1902 01-10-2024 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 2289768)
Spot on regarding weather station reliability. The Villages is huge. The fact it’s raining in The Villages likely means little or nothing as to your specific house location.

You nailed it. Personally, I don't even trust my PWS to dictate what my irrigation system does.

Bill14564 01-10-2024 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kkingston57 (Post 2289766)
Stay away from the rain sensor(s). They are un reliable and require maintenance. Sprinklers should be run in early AM. Rain usually comes in the afternoon. Chances of your sprinkler running when rain hits are not good.

The rain sensors are not to prevent irrigation when it is raining, they are to prevent irrigation when a sufficient amount of rain has fallen that irrigation is not necessary.

A weather station (mechanical sensor) will let the system know how much rain has fallen recently. If enough then the system will skip a day of irrigation.

An weather service based system (internet connected) will attempt to predict rain in the future. Mine will skip a day of irrigation if sufficient rain is anticipated within one day of the irrigation day. So far it has worked very well.

H-ned 01-12-2024 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polirudb (Post 2289629)
I highly recommend the Rachio Black 6 zone controller. I normally sells for $169.00 and is now available for either $119.00 or $99.00. It is the professional version of the Rachio 3 4 zone controller. It comes with 6 zone capability instead of 4 zone, a four year warranty instead of a two year, free valve monitoring (about a $30.00 value), and one or two other enhancements. It is black in color instead of white. The deal is a no-brainer if you are buying a Rachio product. You will pay more for less anywhere else. I have helped install several of them, including my own. Very simple installation, less than 30 minutes. To get the deal, go to their website (rachio.com), sit on the home page for a few minutes, and a $50.00 pop-up coupon should appear in exchange for you signing up for text messages from them. Alternatively, you can add the item to your cart and at checkout, enter coupon code "rachioblack" or "blackrachio". Sometimes that works, sometimes it doesn't. If it works for you, it will drop the price $70.00 to $99.00. No, I don't work for the company. I have used Rachio for over a year now and it has literally saved me hundreds of dollars compared to the same period a year earlier. They offer a first responder, military, and educational discount through id.me, though I am not sure if coupons are stackable.

THANK YOU, everyone, for your quick postings of helpful thoughts and recommendations! And I appreciate those of you who also made offers via PM. After researching further, I decided to purchase the Rachio Black 6-zone controller, and ordered it online (direct from Rachio, using the discount code) for only $117 total cost “out the door.” I remain hopeful for an easy installation and reliable long-term use. Thanks, again!

CoachKandSportsguy 01-12-2024 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2288831)
B-Hyve is easy to install and works well also.

Smart Watering, Irrigation & Sprinkler Systems
– OrbitOnline


Flume will let you monitor your water usage and can notify you if things go outside of normal. E.g. if a sprinkler head breaks.

Monitor Your Water Use | Stop Leaks Fast | Flume 2 Smart Water Monitor

Same here, also connects to a server which manages the watering schedule with the rain forecast schedule.

HOWEVER, for a year or two prior to last summer, the 50% chance of rain was set where the system watered when the forecast was less than 50% chance of rain. Last summer the forecast was at 50% for awhile, BUT the rain didn't come, so the lawn went unwatered and some patches of grass burned up.

So be sure that you understand your settings, especially when not local.

Can save a lot of water and dollars with some good experimentation when living locally to monitor the grass . .

YMMV


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