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jimdecastro 07-17-2024 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2350611)
That would work for me. Would like to here Don Wiley state why he accepted all of the donations from the developer and his suppliers and convince us he will be working in our best interests

You are one of my favorite posters on TOTV, but I strongly disagree with you here. What do you expect him to do? NOT accept LEGAL campaign contributions? Doesn't the Developer have freedom of speech? Didn't his competitor have legal problems? Is a Democrat running against them? If you watch his videos, he is more critical of the Developer than many of the YouTube presenters. He has been a CDD Supervisor and on the PWAC for approximately a decade working to improve things for the residents. Has his competitor?

Sandy and Ed 07-17-2024 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by shaw8700@outlook.com (Post 2350575)
Even if what you’re alluding to is true, who cares? Judging from the aestethics around here, I’d say the people in charge are doing a pretty good job.

Yes I agree but sadly some visitors to our community (certainly, or at least hopefully, not full or part time residents) have begun littering our roads and common areas. I see various fast food containers left all over the place. Could it be left by the influx of day laborers hired by the many contractors (with their wide oversized trailers attached to pickups navigating our roads and streets)?

crash 07-17-2024 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 2350592)
Maybe he built a great place for us to live because of his political power. Makes sense, let’s make it harder for developer to be successful.

It’s called freedom of speech.
The developer wants elected officials who believe in low taxes and free market. That is who they give political donations to.

Where were you when the developers cronies raised our taxes 25%. That 25% was so that the tax payers were paying for the roads the developer needed to expand. The current issue is raising our fire fee so that you the tax payer could pay for new fire stations and equipment so he could still expand. New development should pay for its self like in every other county in the country.

crash 07-17-2024 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jimdecastro (Post 2350630)
You are one of my favorite posters on TOTV, but I strongly disagree with you here. What do you expect him to do? NOT accept LEGAL campaign contributions? Doesn't the Developer have freedom of speech? Didn't his competitor have legal problems? Is a Democrat running against them? If you watch his videos, he is more critical of the Developer than many of the YouTube presenters. He has been a CDD Supervisor and on the PWAC for approximately a decade working to improve things for the residents. Has his competitor?

No his competitor was falsely imprisoned for working for the residents and trying to get the developer to pay his own bills to expand. You must of missed his conviction was thrown out. What does it say about a man who went through what he went through to get back up and come out fighting for the residents of Sumter County.

$282,000 vs $13,000. Look at the donors of the $282,000 contractors and those working for the developer.

coconutmama 07-17-2024 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2350576)
Would you not prefer elected representatives who are beholden to the people who elected them and not special interests?

The developer has built a great place for us to live but do think he has too much political power>

Agree. And people have the right to free speech as well. Whether one agrees with them or not.

M2inOR 07-17-2024 06:27 AM

Don Wiley is definitely NOT in the pocket of the developer.

Don is a competent person who knows how a business is run, and what the developer can and cannot do.

As for businesses paying their fair share, just remember one thing about operating a business. They are the middleman when it comes to taxes. Their prices are set to cover their operating costs - material, labor, and other overhead. If they are profitable, some of that is paid for taxes. If not profitable, certain taxes still need to be paid.

Those who are complaining the most simply do not understand how a business is run. If they did, they'd likely not be complaining.

Don did speak last night at Aviary. It was a public event that was announced for anyone to attend. Seems none of the keyboard warriors attended.

He explained why he was running. It was a pleasant evening with other candidates, and why they were running. Lots of q&a. It was recorded, and Don said he would make the video available.

It was a great session.

Shipping up to Boston 07-17-2024 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Ignatz (Post 2350625)
Maybe you should attend the upcoming Q&A session and ask him rather than stirring the pot here where nobody can give you the answer?

Maybe he can’t attend. Interesting when the individual needs to unload a litter of animals....he takes to ToTV. When he drops his drone videos (yes, very informative) a revenue stream for him....he takes to ToTV. Yet when other outlets as well as his constituents ask a simple question.....crickets....on ToTV. I’ve said this a half a dozen times, I don’t know DW personally, most don’t, but he appears to be a good and decent man. Will it be the end of the world if he is returned to the SCC seat? Absolutely not. But politics has a way of corrupting and compromising even the best of us. Independent leadership is the exception today...not the rule. OM may not be the perfect candidate/commissioner, none of them are....but you can never question his independence in this instance.

Normal 07-17-2024 06:46 AM

Litmus
 
An easy litmus for me:

Does the candidate support STRs?
How does the candidate intend to curb taxes?

ThirdOfFive 07-17-2024 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by shaw8700@outlook.com (Post 2350575)
Even if what you’re alluding to is true, who cares? Judging from the aestethics around here, I’d say the people in charge are doing a pretty good job.

Ain't THAT the truth!

The Developer has built what is inarguably the largest and best known--and probably the most reasonably priced--retirement community on the planet. On that track record alone I'd far rather have him (her? them?) in charge than a lot of nitpickers and ax-grinders who seem to pop up with monotonous regularity.

ThirdOfFive 07-17-2024 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy and Ed (Post 2350633)
Yes I agree but sadly some visitors to our community (certainly, or at least hopefully, not full or part time residents) have begun littering our roads and common areas. I see various fast food containers left all over the place. Could it be left by the influx of day laborers hired by the many contractors (with their wide oversized trailers attached to pickups navigating our roads and streets)?

Maybe to a point along public streets--though Villagers most likely contribute a lot of that as well. But I do a lot of walking on various MMPs and the kinds of litter I find next to (and sometimes on) these MMPs are most likely NOT left by contractors and day laborers. Lots of those one-serving liquor bottles (the kind that airlines had about 40-50 years ago) along with a fair number of those "Fireball" whiskey bottles (what do they hold? 4 ounces?). Empty beer cans. Cigar butts (one or two still smoldering). Lots of cigarette butts--once in a pile near one of the benches on the MMP that runs by El Diablo along El Camino Real where some yutz had obviously emptied whatever it was that was using as an ashtray at the time. Disposable vaping mechanisms. A pair of men's undershorts. Broken sunglasses.

I had once considered taking pictures and posting them on here to see if that would have any effect at lessening the litter. But I doubt it.

Shipping up to Boston 07-17-2024 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2350669)
Ain't THAT the truth!

The Developer has built what is inarguably the largest and best known--and probably the most reasonably priced--retirement community on the planet. On that track record alone I'd far rather have him (her? them?) in charge than a lot of nitpickers and ax-grinders who seem to pop up with monotonous regularity.

You do know the post/poster you’re responding to is talking about ‘aesthetics’...like landscaping etc. County Commissioners have nothing to do with that. Again, your missing the point. I honestly believe most here do not even know the structure of government or how it works as it relates to TV. But rest assured, your hydrangeas will be safe under any candidate!

Normal 07-17-2024 07:54 AM

Conflation
 
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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2350680)
You do know the post/poster you’re responding to is talking about ‘aesthetics’...like landscaping etc. County Commissioners have nothing to do with that. Again, your missing the point. I honestly believe most here do not even know the structure of government or how it works as it relates to TV. But rest assured, your hydrangeas will be safe under any candidate!

Yes, it’s called conflation. It’s a transitional tactic used in debate. The writer uses the identification of one thing and switches its name with a vaguely similar item even though there is little relation. Illegal in the retail world and unethical in all.

Look for it quite a bit in November.

Stu from NYC 07-17-2024 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Ignatz (Post 2350625)
Maybe you should attend the upcoming Q&A session and ask him rather than stirring the pot here where nobody can give you the answer?

Very often Don will answer on here so apparently he does read TOTV.

Shipping up to Boston 07-17-2024 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2350689)
Very often Don will answer on here so apparently he does read TOTV.

Correct....see post #22

Shipping up to Boston 07-17-2024 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2350691)
Correct....see post #22

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