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Larchap49 10-19-2022 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2148591)
Wow---please tell me you're not serious.

It was "unpopular" for the mentally ill to be in a mental institution???? I didn't realize that a vote was required or that it was a popularity contest.

"freedom of the streets without constraints"???? Seriously?????

We all have "constraints" on the streets---it's called THE LAW

Urinating or defecating public is against the law
Masturbation or sex in public is against the law
Drug use is against the law
Drunk and disorderly is against the law
Harassing passers-by for money is against the law

Or is it being suggested that the homeless and mentally ill be granted more rights than everyone else??????

Where have you been hiding. That post was right on the money. It was deemed against their civil rights to institutionalize these people against their will even if all they could say was no. It's gotten so out of hand because the -fill in the blank- do gooders controlling the cities and government agencies have let it. If it spreads here good luck getting it fixed.

jimbomaybe 10-19-2022 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2148591)
Wow---please tell me you're not serious.

It was "unpopular" for the mentally ill to be in a mental institution???? I didn't realize that a vote was required or that it was a popularity contest.

"freedom of the streets without constraints"???? Seriously?????

We all have "constraints" on the streets---it's called THE LAW

Urinating or defecating public is against the law
Masturbation or sex in public is against the law
Drug use is against the law
Drunk and disorderly is against the law
Harassing passers-by for money is against the law

Or is it being suggested that the homeless and mentally ill be granted more rights than everyone else??????

I was not suggesting anything, the "law" means only what is does in the end, how it is enforced from an arrest on the street to what happens in court,, if anything, in many jurisdictions the the first court call is the overnighters, drunk/disorderly who are routinely just turned back to the street, would you show up to prosecute a drunk who took a dump in the doorway of your business? when in an mental institution they require a certain level of behavior, if it is impossible for you to comply they have drugs that will "calm you down" many inmates would rather live on the street than comply with the standard imposed "inside" advances in the law has given them the option of walking

ex34449 10-19-2022 12:24 PM

The homeless and the snowbirds come here for the same reasons. They prefer not to freeze their butts off.

golfing eagles 10-19-2022 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbomaybe (Post 2148650)
I was not suggesting anything, the "law" means only what is does in the end, how it is enforced from an arrest on the street to what happens in court,, if anything, in many jurisdictions the the first court call is the overnighters, drunk/disorderly who are routinely just turned back to the street, would you show up to prosecute a drunk who took a dump in the doorway of your business? when in an mental institution they require a certain level of behavior, if it is impossible for you to comply they have drugs that will "calm you down" many inmates would rather live on the street than comply with the standard imposed "inside" advances in the law has given them the option of walking

To which my first suggestion is CHANGE THE LAW!!!!

Enough of this woke BS, endangering the overwhelming majority so a few can run amok. I wonder if the emperor Honorius had the same problems after he watched the Visigoths come over the hills of Rome

Aces4 10-19-2022 12:44 PM

n 2014, he was voluntarily homeless for nearly 100 days as he embarked on a cross-country research project that was documented on Facebook.

“I have 23 years of experience as a naval officer, three degrees and I couldn’t get out of homelessness,” Mr. Rebman said.

Now, his mission is to educate the public on how “easily this can be solved.”

“Our system is broken and does not allow us to succeed,” Mr. Rebman said. “The secret is education and collaboration and affordable housing. It’s not all substance abuse like we think.”

Mr. Rebman’s mass education campaign started with Palm Bay and was met with a positive response from the city council.

“Palm Bay is the largest community in Brevard County with the least number of facilities for homeless people,” Mr. Rebman said. “For me, Palm Bay is the first step.”

Next, he’ll head to Cocoa and Titusville, and hopes to set up meetings with officials in each of Brevard County’s cities.

For Palm Bay, Mr. Redman proposed three action steps, including the opening of a cold-night shelter before the next cold season, identifying nonprofit and faith organizations in the area to assist with the effort, and consideration by the city to fund case managers like Orlando does.



Tal, from what I can see, Mr. Redman has proposed more handouts, no solutions.

Aces4 10-19-2022 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ex34449 (Post 2148651)
The homeless and the snowbirds come here for the same reasons. They prefer not to freeze their butts off.

As did all the other people living in The Villages now, geezzz.

jimbomaybe 10-19-2022 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2148653)
To which my first suggestion is CHANGE THE LAW!!!!

Enough of this woke BS, endangering the overwhelming majority so a few can run amok. I wonder if the emperor Honorius had the same problems after he watched the Visigoths come over the hills of Rome

They are most certainly changing the laws, as of the first of the year Illinois will have the "Safety Act" that will do away with the cash bond requirement for many offences , in addition a "homeless "person living in your shed will be given a citation , not removed, the wind is blowing strongly in a "progressive direction friend

golfing eagles 10-19-2022 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbomaybe (Post 2148662)
They are most certainly changing the laws, as of the first of the year Illinois will have the "Safety Act" that will do away with the cash bond requirement for many offences , in addition a "homeless "person living in your shed will be given a citation , not removed, the wind is blowing strongly in a "progressive direction friend

"Progressive" is one term to describe it. The more accurate term is "anarchy"

VApeople 10-19-2022 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbomaybe (Post 2148662)
the wind is blowing strongly in a progressive direction friend

Maybe that is true in Illinois.

However, we are thrilled to live in Florida.

Aces4 10-19-2022 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbomaybe (Post 2148662)
They are most certainly changing the laws, as of the first of the year Illinois will have the "Safety Act" that will do away with the cash bond requirement for many offences , in addition a "homeless "person living in your shed will be given a citation , not removed, the wind is blowing strongly in a "progressive direction friend

Don’t you mean “backward” direction?

jimbomaybe 10-19-2022 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2148664)
"Progressive" is one term to describe it. The more accurate term is "anarchy"

Heard some statistics that 4 out of 5 homeless have been homeless before, missing was the number of fist time and length of time homeless, they are doing something wrong, they have problems that no one can address,, coming to an area near you soon ? the bubble meets the real world ?

golfing eagles 10-19-2022 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbomaybe (Post 2148672)
Heard some statistics that 4 out of 5 homeless have been homeless before, missing was the number of fist time and length of time homeless, they are doing something wrong, they have problems that no one can address,, coming to an area near you soon ? the bubble meets the real world ?

Or maybe everyone would be better off if "the real world" patterned itself after "the bubble"

Caymus 10-19-2022 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbomaybe (Post 2148662)
They are most certainly changing the laws, as of the first of the year Illinois will have the "Safety Act" that will do away with the cash bond requirement for many offences , in addition a "homeless "person living in your shed will be given a citation , not removed, the wind is blowing strongly in a "progressive direction friend

The woke high crime cities have already eliminated cash bonds.

ThirdOfFive 10-19-2022 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2148653)
To which my first suggestion is CHANGE THE LAW!!!!

Enough of this woke BS, endangering the overwhelming majority so a few can run amok. I wonder if the emperor Honorius had the same problems after he watched the Visigoths come over the hills of Rome

Absolutely!

How?

bark4me 10-19-2022 01:29 PM

Actually 7 posts and thanked on 5 of them. Get off your high horse pal


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