Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 2261040)

We were at KB’s hay day in 2007. Patrons spent money, for good food, great bar, and tables packed for entertainment dinner and dancing. Long waitlist.

Fast forward to 2010, menus downsizing, less bar drink choice, food mediocre at best. 60% or more sat at tables listening to free music, drinking water with lemon, occupying table for hours spending a few dollars.

Next step, time and dollar amount limit on tables, tickets for good entertainment. Angry old people, not going to spend money on what they are entitled to for free.

KB’s moved upstairs, Reno downstairs for retail, hoping to boost a failing business. Didn’t work. KB’s closed. If one has only been here 3 years, KB’ s was long gone.

I have never met an investor that would continue a business, lose money, and want to keep it open. Maybe newer residents just didn’t want to spend $50 on an iconic business.

So do I miss KB’s no, I was over it when you couldn’t get a table, because too many people were ordering water, and putting in their own flavors from home.

Clientele killed KB’s, not the developers

Originally Posted by Norge (Post 2261115)

All you people are nothing but negative remarks!get a life

Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 2261045)

. Welcome to "Old People's Internet." ;)

Originally Posted by ROCKETMAN (Post 2261134)

The villages does what every big business does. Looks at businesses that lose money and gets rid of them. Katie Bells perfect example that you can’t pay a band $1500 a night and not charge admission and let people sit at bar nursing a $3 dollar beer. Movie theaters another example, can’t support 3 of them.

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2261008)

With a smattering of "Dog Poop" for good measure...

Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 2261045)

. Welcome to "Old People's Internet." ;)

Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 2261142)

One would think after not getting it right a few times a business would put more effort into upfront research / business pan. No sympathy here on my part for the developer. The clientele in TV is a well known commodity from every demographic right down to the finite size. Stop blaming the water sippers - the residents possess the same traits for the last 30 years or perhaps the percentage of resident water sippers has increased over the years ?

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2261064)

The management/owners could have/should have made changes to allow themselves to make a profit.

Originally Posted by npwalters (Post 2260892)

If you have been in TV 3 or more years you probably remember Katie Belles fondly. A few years ago it was allowed to wither on the vine in an effort to turn the space into apartments.

The building was very pleasing to the eye with large, floor to ceiling, arched windows and stained glass in the interior. The photo shows the result of "progress". Now it is just exactly what the business model said it should be. I get the business decision but it is still very sad to me.

Originally Posted by rochellepfaff (Post 2261234)

You haven't been here long enough to remember the original Katie Bell's. It was downstairs in the same building. It was a saloon with a dance floor, and only for Villages residents and their guests. They had entertainment in the afternoon. And a really good Sunday buffet brunch. We used to go for lunch and dancing. We loved it. Upstairs was The Cattle Baron restaurant - a more upscale steak house. You could look over the balcony railing and see the entertainment and people dancing downstairs. It was very disappointing when they moved Katie Bell's upstairs and changed the design and menu. The saloon had so much more charm and great entertainment in the evenings. We always took our out-of-town visitors there. We never took them to the remodeled one upstairs. It had no charm at all. And the food was ordinary.

Originally Posted by Whitley (Post 2261152)

We now have a war of posters on our block. Seems someone walking their dog bagged his feces after it went and threw it out in someone elses garbage can they were passing along the walk. The homeowner of the can was told by a neighbor what happened. They came home, checked their ring doorbell and the war is on. Funniest was a large banner of the lady (her dog was not in the photo) throwing a bag into the garbage can with the text "Why would I want your sh95 in my can". I found this funny on a couple of levels. To those unfamiliar with the story it appears as if someone is accusing the lady of throwing HER xxxx in the can, andsomething about XXXX in my can just seems amusing (When I hit 50 I started regressing to a younger age each year.).