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graciegirl 04-03-2013 10:50 AM

I love children and I was a good teacher. Loved every day going to school. I am now glad that I live in an over 55 community where I don't have to worry about other peoples children.

Because I do...and I would. I am just geared that way. I want to separate myself from things that cause worry.

I am not responsible for anything that happens to other peoples children here. But I can't keep myself from caring and worrying.

I read posts on this thread from dare devil guys and protective moms. We are who we are.

Challenger 04-03-2013 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by paulandjean (Post 653057)
Maybe the grandparents where driving slow,so that nothing would happen. Maybe 10 or 15 years it was common to see kids in the back of pick-up trucks on the inter-state doing 70 mph.How many kids rode in a trailer on moving days. How man boys had go-carts that they drove in the street with traffic,and had high speeds. Give these people a break,maybe they knew what they were doing.Is this against the law?

How many were killed , or maimed? We spend literally billons to improve vehicle safety and complete ignor the one best method-- Commom sense

Nana18 04-03-2013 11:34 AM

Kids strapped in golf bag locations
 
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Originally Posted by NotGolfer (Post 653146)
Folks think it's "fine" only if they are the ones doing it (fill in the blank on what the deed might be). You know, that "entitlement" mentality??!! As for kids strapped on the back of a golf-cart---it more than likely is illegal since this isn't a seat but a place for the clubs. If nothing else folks should be using "common sense" when they're out and about. I liked what one poster said---"no room IN the car? Let's tie the kids to the luggage rack or put them in the trunk!!" That makes about as much sense as tying kids to the cart.

We'll continue to see these acts until there's a horrible accident (or make that plural)---then maybe a big crack-down will happen where our privileges of being a "golf cart community" would be taken away.

Hopefully, there will never be a horrible accident regarding the kids driving the golf cart or being strapped in where the golf clubs go. I do not understand the stupidity of the grandparents or the parents of these kids letting this happen. We were driving down our street last week and saw a golf cart weaving back and forth in the path so we slowed down before realizing that a grandfather had a child about 2 sitting in his lap driving the cart and another toddler sitting beside him. We were afraid to pass him because of the weaving of the cart. It would bother me terribly if a child was hurt because - again - of the stupidity of the grandparents or the parents.

gerryann 04-03-2013 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Nana18 (Post 653213)
Hopefully, there will never be a horrible accident regarding the kids driving the golf cart or being strapped in where the golf clubs go. I do not understand the stupidity of the grandparents or the parents of these kids letting this happen. We were driving down our street last week and saw a golf cart weaving back and forth in the path so we slowed down before realizing that a grandfather had a child about 2 sitting in his lap driving the cart and another toddler sitting beside him. We were afraid to pass him because of the weaving of the cart. It would bother me terribly if a child was hurt because - again - of the stupidity of the grandparents or the parents.

Complete and total stupidity!!!

paulandjean 04-03-2013 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by gerryann (Post 653215)
Complete and total stupidity!!!

sad part they probably live down the street from you. They could be your friends.

rubicon 04-03-2013 02:31 PM

They Come By It Honestly
 


Grandparents strapping grandkids on the back of their carts. Grandparents driving carts and pulling grandkids on skateboards. Grandparents with little biddy grandkids in their laps swerving back and forth in order to entertain their grandkids. Someone wrote "You can't fix stupid." Well that's why, its passed on from generation to generation. Fifty years from now these grandkids will be living in TV and they will say to their grandkids. When I was a little boy my grnad daddy let me ride on the back of his cart, pulled me on my skateboard and let me drive his cart blindfolded . So fun. so hop on the back and............................................... ....

In short they come by their stupid honestly

Golfingnut 04-03-2013 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 653284)

Grandparents strapping grandkids on the back of their carts. Grandparents driving carts and pulling grandkids on skateboards. Grandparents with little biddy grandkids in their laps swerving back and forth in order to entertain their grandkids. Someone wrote "You can't fix stupid." Well that's why, its passed on from generation to generation. Fifty years from now these grandkids will be living in TV and they will say to their grandkids. When I was a little boy my grnad daddy let me ride on the back of his cart, pulled me on my skateboard and let me drive his cart blindfolded . So fun. so hop on the back and............................................... ....

In short they come by their stupid honestly

I must say my opinion, that kids that are raised that way tend to become better adults than those that are over protected. Just look at me, I raised myself and look how wonderful I turned out.

:beer3:

ilovetv 04-03-2013 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by memason (Post 653188)
Is that not the same argument for using a seatbelt in a cart? Wouldn't you be strapping a child to a cart that could overturn?

In all honesty, strapping kids in like a golf bag is no different than strapping them in the rear seats....they're just standing instead of sitting.

I just don't see the big problem here... My clubs have ridden around, strapped on my cart, for over 2 year and not a scratch!

There's a big difference with this scenario of kids strapped to the golf cart bag area and being strapped in the rear seats.

- Your clubs are inanimate objects without hands that can undo the strap buckle;

- Your clubs cannot wiggle and squirm themselves out of the strap unless the buckle loosens because it was not pressed shut enough.

- Rear seat belts are made for being lap restraints that cross the body in the appropriate place. Bag belts were not made for bodies, and depending on the height of the child and the grip of the buckle of the strap, the kids can wiggle or accidentally slide out of them, into traffic......not onto golf course turf by the way.

- Rear seat belts have a hook and clasp closure and not the belt gripper like the bag strap buckle is. The seatbelt hook and clasp is more reliable to stay closed.

- Most importantly: What if the golf cart with kids strapped on the back gets rear-ended by a car/truck?? We don't care if golf clubs get smashed and broken, but we do care if it's a little kid's legs, abdomen, spine, chest or head.

paulandjean 04-03-2013 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ilovetv (Post 653295)
There's a big difference with this scenario of kids strapped to the golf cart bag area and being strapped in the rear seats.

- Your clubs are inanimate objects without hands that can undo the strap buckle;

- Your clubs cannot wiggle and squirm themselves out of the strap unless the buckle loosens because it was not pressed shut enough.

- Rear seat belts are made for being lap restraints that cross the body in the appropriate place. Bag belts were not made for bodies, and depending on the height of the child and the grip of the buckle of the strap, the kids can wiggle or accidentally slide out of them, into traffic......not onto golf course turf by the way.

- Rear seat belts have a hook and clasp closure and not the belt gripper like the bag strap buckle is. The seatbelt hook and clasp is more reliable to stay closed.

- Most importantly: What if the golf cart with kids strapped on the back gets rear-ended by a car/truck?? We don't care if golf clubs get smashed and broken, but we do care if it's a little kid's legs, abdomen, spine, chest or head.

Thats why children are outlawed from riding on the back of a motorcycle.

tommy steam 04-03-2013 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 653060)
See picture? Point to broken cart.

A picture is worth a thousand words.

Challenger 04-03-2013 05:11 PM

The argument against rear facing seats does give me pause. No bumper . No other material of any kind between the rear facing riders and an approaching vehicle. I own a rear facing 4 seater and am becomming increasingly more worried about the safety of the passengers.

gerryann 04-03-2013 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by paulandjean (Post 653256)
sad part they probably live down the street from you. They could be your friends.

They could live down the street...they could be neighbors, but friends? NO.....not if I knew about it.

Bill-n-Brillo 04-03-2013 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by paulandjean (Post 653344)
Thats why children are outlawed from riding on the back of a motorcycle.

Apparently not so in FL. Scroll down the "Road" column - "Passenger Age Restriction - None":

State-by-state motorcycle laws

Bill :)

paulandjean 04-03-2013 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill-n-Brillo (Post 653374)
Apparently not so in FL. Scroll down the "Road" column - "Passenger Age Restriction - None":

State-by-state motorcycle laws

Bill :)

Think you get it. The state of Florida will let a child ride on the back of a 70 mph motorcycle with no helmet,and yes no seatbelts and people here do not see the problem.They see a silly golf cart going 15 mph and those kids in the back,who can probably run faster than the cart is going.let them be kids, and let them be grandparents.

Warren Kiefer 04-03-2013 06:50 PM

Unreal response
 
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Originally Posted by paulandjean (Post 653391)
Think you get it. The state of Florida will let a child ride on the back of a 70 mph motorcycle with no helmet,and yes no seatbelts and people here do not see the problem.They see a silly golf cart going 15 mph and those kids in the back,who can probably run faster than the cart is going.let them be kids, and let them be grandparents.

Here you have two children standing in the rear of a golf cart and no protection at all to speak of. Silly golf cart speed probably around 15 MPH, cars and trucks approaching from behind at probable speeds of 30 to 35 or greater. Auto or truck driver becomes distracted and slams into the back of the golf cart. so what do you have, at least four broken legs, internal injuries and likely killed outright. Grandparents totally destroyed forever. But what the heck, they were only letting them be kids.


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