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JoMar 06-13-2016 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Warren Kiefer (Post 1240723)
If the available amount of water is unlimited and it has been determined that this company taking up to a million gallon per day will not affect the supply, why are we usually on a water usage restriction ??? I agree that far too many times elected officials seem to forget who they actually represent.

Where do you live, our neighborhood isn't on any restrictions nor do I believe any communities that surround TV are on any restrictions.

Average Guy 06-14-2016 04:34 AM

Sumter County Has Watering Restrictions
 
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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1240751)
Where do you live, our neighborhood isn't on any restrictions nor do I believe any communities that surround TV are on any restrictions.

Sumter County has watering restrictions.

Source:
Watering Restrictions | Sumter County, FL - Official Website


" Watering Restrictions
Water restrictions apply to water supplied by utilities, private wells and surface water sources. Sprinkler
Sumter County is currently following the Southwest Florida Water Management District’s water restrictions.

Lawn Watering Schedule & Times

Lawn watering is limited to twice per week.
Lawn watering days and times are as follows unless your city or county has a different schedule or stricter hours in effect.
Even addresses may water on Thursday and/or Sunday before 10 a.m. or after 4 p.m.
Odd addresses may water on Wednesday and/or Saturday before 10 a.m. or after 4 p.m.
Hand watering and micro-irrigation of plants (other than lawns) can be done on any day and at any time.

New Lawns & Plants

New lawns and plants have a 30-30 establishment period, which allows any-day watering during the first 30 days.
During the second 30 days, watering is allowed 3 days per week: even-numbered addresses may water on Tuesday, Thursday and Sunday; odd-numbered addresses may water Monday, Wednesday and Saturday.

Reclaimed Water
Reclaimed water remains subject to voluntary watering hours, unless blended with another water source or restricted by the local government or utility.

Fountains, Car Washing & Pressure Washing
There are no restrictions on fountains, car washing and pressure washing. However, the district asks that residents be as efficient as possible, such as using a shutoff nozzle on their hose so water isn’t wasted.

If you have additional water restriction questions or wish to report a possible violation, please contact Southwest Florida Water Management District by calling the Water Restrictions Hotline at 800-848-0499 (Florida only) or by email.

Personal assistance is available during business hours; off-hours uses an automated response system."

rubicon 06-14-2016 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1240751)
Where do you live, our neighborhood isn't on any restrictions nor do I believe any communities that surround TV are on any restrictions.

Either water is plentiful or it is not. So the logical question.... on the one hand we have continual development and Nestle drawing water for the last 4-5 years and now Azure under consideration while on the other hand we have village residents subjected to a three tier rating system based on an arbitrary average usage based on a two person household. We have water monitoring via written notice that one day will turn to be an ultimatum. I have lived in a number of other states and never once has a utility company sent me notice that my usage was above their average. Again an average that is based on a two person household. But there are those household with more than two people or those households that receive a lot of company or own pools or eat home often vis a vis those who eat out a lot, etc etc etc

Believe or not in some places those so called friendly reminders (notices) would be considered a form of harassment. Again a logical progression if there is enough of a concern that a resident is using too much water that it requires the time and expense of a notice then how on God's green earth can you allow bottling companies such liberal access to our water source...water is a public resource and should never be privatized.

rubicon 06-14-2016 04:50 AM

Another thought. It is obvious that officials at this meeting are already aware of every argument residents will advance. I suspect that these officials or those in their employ review social media websites such as this ( stick a wet finger in the air to feel the direction of the wind). So I agree with those who state the number of residents concerned about this issue should show up in force to validate those arguments .

By the way this is the sort of concern I had when the issue came up for Sumter One. I voted against it because it consolidated too much power in one area and eliminated competing voices. I hope it comes up on ballot again in the near future

FLORIDASUNSHINE 06-14-2016 04:38 PM

Follow the money....something doesn't sound right!,,

outlaw 06-14-2016 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Warren Kiefer (Post 1240716)
I expected an objection of some type. I usually respond when I get parented. My home came with 42 sprinkler heads, we cannot go to "zero scape" landscaping, we are required to maintain a certain percentage of grass. 4/9ths of my required lawn maintenance actually is not owned by me, the 4/9ths is the setback and right of way that I am required to water. I once got a notification that my lawn was not in acceptable condition and needed attention. The attention was water !!! My house is in wonderful condition.

I'm telling you things have changed in TV. You CAN get approval for zero scaping. TV is NOW approving those landscape plans. This type of landscaping IS the future. In fact, there is legislation passed that strongly encourages, supports this type of landscaping against HOA covenants. Do some homework and you will see.

ColdNoMore 06-14-2016 07:58 PM

It's called 'Xeriscape,' not 'zero scape.'


Xeriscaping - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Xeriscaping (often incorrectly spelled zero-scaping or xeroscaping) is landscaping and gardening that reduces or eliminates the need for supplemental water from irrigation.


rubicon 06-15-2016 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1241285)
It's called 'Xeriscape,' not 'zero scape.'


Xeriscaping - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Thank you .

Xeriscape zero scape if I wanted to live in Arizona I would have moved there but it was too brown for us and we wanted green.

a poster said "follow the money". I totally agree with this comment "Money corrupts absolutely" and it is getting much too common in our society

biker1 06-15-2016 05:46 AM

Check your plat - I believe you will find that you actually own the property. Just because there is an easement doesn't mean you don't own the property.

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Originally Posted by Warren Kiefer (Post 1240716)
I expected an objection of some type. I usually respond when I get parented. My home came with 42 sprinkler heads, we cannot go to "zero scape" landscaping, we are required to maintain a certain percentage of grass. 4/9ths of my required lawn maintenance actually is not owned by me, the 4/9ths is the setback and right of way that I am required to water. I once got a notification that my lawn was not in acceptable condition and needed attention. The attention was water !!! My house is in wonderful condition.


outlaw 06-15-2016 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1241285)
It's called 'Xeriscape,' not 'zero scape.'


Xeriscaping - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Sorry, thanks. I copied it from some ignorant person. I knew that...gulp.

outlaw 06-15-2016 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 1241364)
Thank you .

Xeriscape zero scape if I wanted to live in Arizona I would have moved there but it was too brown for us and we wanted green.

a poster said "follow the money". I totally agree with this comment "Money corrupts absolutely" and it is getting much too common in our society

rubicon,
I have seen two TV lots that have gone near x-scape, and they don't look anywhere near the typical arizona yard. But, if you don't mind the water bill, stick with conventional grass. However, if you live in a "grass" house, don't throw stones. (teehee)

Warren Kiefer 06-15-2016 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1241258)
I'm telling you things have changed in TV. You CAN get approval for zero scaping. TV is NOW approving those landscape plans. This type of landscaping IS the future. In fact, there is legislation passed that strongly encourages, supports this type of landscaping against HOA covenants. Do some homework and you will see.

Are you going to help me with the $20,000 that it will cost to change my lot to rocks and cactus?

looneycat 06-15-2016 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1239661)
Nope, you're wrong.

It doesn't 'belong' to Chicago/New York, any more than it 'belongs' to The Villages/Sumter County.

Any more than oil from Texas, belongs just to Texas.

Or coal from the Appalachian region belongs to West Virginia.

It ALL belongs to the United States of America and to be governed/utilized/sold/rented as local entities see fit. But that certainly doesn't mean it has to stay in 'one region.'

And I guess you missed my point of how aquifers/ground tables actually exist and their sizes.

the aquifer is the floridan aquifer which runs under florida, georgia, louisiana, s. carolina and mississippi. it supplies savannah and brunswick georgia as well as jacksonville, orlando, talahassee and st. petersburg. yep sumter is at risk chilout

janmcn 06-15-2016 12:15 PM

Who remembers when The Villages got totally shut down by the courts in the early 2000's due to not enough water to sustain any more building? This was before there was one structure south of SR 466, except for the charter school. The plaintiff's name was Daniel Farnsworth.

ColdNoMore 06-15-2016 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by looneycat (Post 1241503)
the aquifer is the floridan aquifer which runs under florida, georgia, louisiana, s. carolina and mississippi. it supplies savannah and brunswick georgia as well as jacksonville, orlando, talahassee and st. petersburg. yep sumter is at risk chilout



But, but, but, it is OUR (The Villages) water dammit! :rant-rave:


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