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RICH1 01-28-2023 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 2180684)
Originally Posted by RICH1 [edited]
Why all of a sudden do Villagers need to subsidize Workforce Housing apartments? Plenty of places to live in surrounding towns that house and support the working men and working ladies.. ... Raising the minimum wage has become more than my High Skilled Tradesmen career I had 10 years ago! ...

Reply by Blueash:
[edited]. That is why capitalist entrepreneurs are building new housing. That is why the Morse clan, not stupid people at all, are building more family sections. The work force now comes from afar.

And do you expect us to be so gullible as to believe that you as a "High Skilled Tradesman" were paid less than $11 an hour ten years ago?



I said the Morse clan members are not stupid people.. Why are you threatening me and suggesting that my recognition of their financial skills should cause you or anyone to break my jaw. Or maybe you don't read well and somehow think I called you stupid or suggested you thought the Morses were stupid. I did not do either of those things. Read what I wrote again. See post #4

And then you threaten me with disaster??? What is wrong with you? I did not twist your comment which despite the poor wording seems to say that the minimum wage today is higher than your salary 10 years ago. If that is not the meaning of "the minimum wage has become more than my High Skilled Tradesmen career I had 10 years ago" you write very unclearly.
Then you accuse me of only presenting my TWISTED SPIN when I 100% completely included your exact words in my post which is so obvious I don't know how you can make up such a lie about what I wrote. Again see post #4 where your entire post is included above my comment.
Please consider why you need to threaten physical violence even if someone did call you stupid or suggest why a disaster is somehow forthcoming if someone misquotes your words. Wow, just Wow.

Don’t go narcissist on us, I didn’t want my Jaw broken… please re read my comment and not think about yourself…. I guess word spinners think like that..

tvbound 01-28-2023 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager (Post 2180660)
Thank you for doing such a good job defining the word: ENTITLED! :BigApplause:

The best and most hilarious part being, the "entitled" poster actually thanked you! LOL Methinks he doesn't quite understand your dead on comment on his post.

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RICH1 01-28-2023 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tvbound (Post 2180694)
The best and most hilarious part being, the "entitled" poster actually thanked you! LOL Methinks he doesn't quite understand your dead on comment on his post.

Crystal Clear … loved the depth of it! I said I was a machinist, not a barber…

asianthree 01-28-2023 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Janie123 (Post 2180613)
Because an RN has a lot of upside growth to make $50 an hour plus, a cast member is like a barista, just a stepping stone while working on maybe a higher education or it’s an internship. And all $100k+ jobs are not in crappy locations, we spend 8 months at the Mayo Clinic in Jacksonville (10 min from the beach)… and I’m sure there are lots of RNs doing well up there especially moving up the ladder from entry level to maybe getting into the OR or Oncology units. To be fair, some departments (like in the hospital post surgery floors) at the Mayo are also short staffed but I think that might be due to just a shortage of RNs.

Yep tell that to a 18 yo, that future is more important than the next 4 years. Health care is not the calling it used to be. I have 45 plus years in Operating Room, and counting. The reason hospitals are short is many retired during the two year hiatus of Covid. With the option of returning, however most chose to just walk away.

We could see what every position made in my system that owned 300 plus facilities, all over the country. It was incentive to post hourly wages from starting to top. Oncology for an RN, not much up grade.

ICU, ED, OR, are at the middle, depending on added on certification. However, $100,000 isn’t in any RN scale. NP, ORNP, PA, PAOR, can make six figures, but not all.

House RN mom, which was mid management, but never enough money to put up with all the crap.
Even with many of us working 60 plus hours a week durning Covid, $100,000 was never in the mix. Many were furloughed or hours cut.

Both of us have 45 years each in multi healthcare facilities, our kids, are Doctors, PAOR and RNOR, certified.

Granddaughter is started med school this year, trauma orthopedic is her passion, like her grandfather. But conversation this weekend was “ I just figured out by the time I finish residency, I will be $700,000 in debt”. And then I still have to enter into my trauma orthopedics specialty.

She said sometimes she questions debt could reach a million dollars and will it worth it. Then she goes to cadaver lab, sees how fractured bones could have been repaired better, and knows it’s all worth the money,

JMintzer 01-28-2023 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 2180420)
There are not plenty of places in the surrounding communities. That is why capitalist entrepreneurs are building new housing. That is why the Morse clan, not stupid people at all, are building more family sections. The work force now comes from afar.

And do you expect us to be so gullible as to believe that you as a "High Skilled Tradesman" were paid less than $11 an hour ten years ago?

Yup. People who know more than anyone on this board about housing needs are investing their capital into building housing...

JMintzer 01-28-2023 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 2180600)
Starting for for new graduate RN can start at $22-24 hourly rate, state by state, unless you want to work in high crime area, then you get hazard pay.

So why go into health care, when you can work for Disney, get ticket perks, and have a stress free magical day.

It's significantly higher than that. It ranges from just over $60K to well over $100K...

asianthree 01-28-2023 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2180730)
It's significantly higher than that. It ranges from just over $60K to well over $100K...

16 facilities listed 62 positions today, for RN new grad $22-24. I get posting daily for no less than 100 facilities, plus 13 traveling sites. As I stated some states are lower than others. Advent has postings for new grad RN start $24. Travelers posting starting at $31-35, VA this week have tons of LPN, but very few RN posting.

JMintzer 01-28-2023 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 2180737)
16 facilities listed 62 positions today, for RN new grad $22-24. I get posting daily for no less than 100 facilities, plus 13 traveling sites. As I stated some states are lower than others. Advent has postings for new grad RN start $24. Travelers posting starting at $31-35, VA this week have tons of LPN, but very few RN posting.

"According to Salary.com, the average nurse starting salary in the United States is $65,775, or $31.62 per hour. "

Nurse Starting Salary | 2023

"The average hourly wage for a New Graduate Registered Nurse in the United States is $32 as of December 27, 2022, but the salary range typically falls between $29 and $37."

Hourly wage for New Graduate Registered Nurse | Salary.com

Indydealmaker 01-28-2023 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RICH1 (Post 2180557)
Nobody said “ Stupid People” please don’t put words in my mouth!, that’s how people get broken jaws…. And TWISTING my Post about my pay 10 years ago so others only read your TWISTED SPIN is a recipe for Disaster!

Anger issues?

jimjamuser 01-28-2023 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RICH1 (Post 2180316)
Why all of a sudden do Villagers need to subsidize Workforce Housing apartments? Plenty of places to live in surrounding towns that house and support the working men and working ladies.. Changing the fabric of a Retirement Community will only cheapen the quality of Retiree life by creating more expenses to draw from a fixed income. Raising the minimum wage has become more than my High Skilled Tradesmen career I had 10 years ago! And this Tipping thing is over, do your job and make me a pizza

That's assuming that ALL the workforce doing jobs in the Villages are HONEST. Some, not so much. Some work as landscapers or lawn cutters by day and come back at night to rob and pillage. What a surprise, some people don't like RICH, entitled, old caucasian people - hard to blame them. Some residents in the old days did NOT even lock their doors when they went out. Today, you NEED security cameras and hidden safes. And going for a several-day trip somewhere and having newspapers pile up is like saying, "please, please break in.

jimjamuser 01-28-2023 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by LuvtheVillages (Post 2180403)
You are NOT subsidizing any workforce housing. Any apartments being built (other than at Brownwood, and they pay fees just like you) are OUTSIDE the Villages. None of your money or fees go to those apartments.

Within the Villages, the non-age-restricted housing is completely separate from the age-restricted housing. They have their own facilities and recreation, completely separate from yours.

The only expense I can think of is that some of your property taxes may be used to build roads and schools. Just like in any city in the country.

How about the increased cost of Police protection? Unless someone thinks that the crime rate for young people isn't higher than for retired people.

jimjamuser 01-28-2023 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 2180420)
There are not plenty of places in the surrounding communities. That is why capitalist entrepreneurs are building new housing. That is why the Morse clan, not stupid people at all, are building more family sections. The work force now comes from afar.

And do you expect us to be so gullible as to believe that you as a "High Skilled Tradesman" were paid less than $11 an hour ten years ago?

A highly skilled tradesman could have been paid less than $11 per hour - IN FLORIDA - probably NOT up NORTH.

Boomer 01-28-2023 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RICH1 (Post 2180608)
Thank you , I needed that ! Yes the minimum wage here in Florida is on of the lowest in the country…paid in Sunshine dollars….lol
The News does get my goat pretty easily lately, and I’m flipping all channels..that 20.00 per hour Walmart story, possibly took me over the edge, knowing most employees still qualify for supplemental government benefits..I’ll just take a chill pill and try to figure out how to process 20 million illegals getting Social Security numbers and 1099s. It might be less Stressful… anyway Thanks again …


Maybe it's time to think about stepping away from that television "news" -- spun to make viewers angry.

Ever notice how those obscenely paid "news" deliverers hammer -- hammer-- hammer -- tapping into the emotional part of their viewers' brains -- winding up their fans into a heightened state of negative emotion (anger, panic, fear, paranoia)?

Sometimes that constant pounding will tip viewers into a state of urgency -- gotta do something, gotta do it NOW.

Ironically, that constant tapping into negative emotion is the same method used by scammers -- but those who buy into it on a screen of their own choice can't seem to see the parallels. It's all emotional manipulation for money, lots of it. All from the same playbook.

I know someone whose husband spends so much time in front of television "news" that it is changing his personality by negatively affecting his mood, day after day. She cannot convince him to connect the dots, to see the cause-and-effect -- and turn off that &%$#ing television.

Lucy Boomer (Advice 5 Cents)

jimjamuser 01-28-2023 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RICH1 (Post 2180480)
Disney is paying 20.00 bucks per hour to their Cast members, with 5 % increases every year…frustrating seeing these and other entry level jobs making these wages & pushing that tip jar in our faces… guess I’m just sick & tired of the system bleeding the Retiree on Fixed incomes… I’m comfortable now but the future looks bleak..

Fixed incomes look especially precarious in times (like today) of relatively high INFLATION. And a possible recession could drive down a stock portfolio or an IRA. So, the time to accumulate stocks was probably 2 years ago. Not much to do today to get ahead.........maybe put 5% of ANY investible income into a GOLD ETF......which might (?) allow you to "tread water" or get a little gain.
.......If you can do that or hold relatively big amounts of cash, then wait for the US recession and BUY then.
........It would be nice if growing old were PAINLESS........maybe next world ?


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