[Janie123]

Originally Posted by asianthree

Starting for for new graduate RN can start at $22-24 hourly rate, state by state, unless you want to work in high crime area, then you get hazard pay.

So why go into health care, when you can work for Disney, get ticket perks, and have a stress free magical day.

Because an RN has a lot of upside growth to make $50 an hour plus, a cast member is like a barista, just a stepping stone while working on maybe a higher education or it’s an internship. And all $100k+ jobs are not in crappy locations, we spend 8 months at the Mayo Clinic in Jacksonville (10 min from the beach)… and I’m sure there are lots of RNs doing well up there especially moving up the ladder from entry level to maybe getting into the OR or Oncology units. To be fair, some departments (like in the hospital post surgery floors) at the Mayo are also short staffed but I think that might be due to just a shortage of RNs.

[Marine1974]

I guess you shouldn’t complain about labor shortages in the villages if you think people should drive 40 minutes to an hour each way to come a serve you for ??? an hour . Apartments are a great idea for the workers in the villages . Schools to .

[Marine1974]

I guess you shouldn’t complain about labor shortages in the villages if you think people should drive 40 minutes to an hour each way to come a serve you for ??? an hour . Apartments are a great idea for the workers in the villages . Schools to .

[Dlpdo]

Originally Posted by asianthree

Starting for for new graduate RN can start at $22-24 hourly rate, state by state, unless you want to work in high crime area, then you get hazard pay.

So why go into health care, when you can work for Disney, get ticket perks, and have a stress free magical day.

Do you really believe working at Disney is stress free. I am not aware of any stress free service job where people have to work with the demanding and those who feel entitled.

[ahrens fox]

Originally Posted by RICH1

Why all of a sudden do Villagers need to subsidize Workforce Housing apartments? Plenty of places to live in surrounding towns that house and support the working men and working ladies.. Changing the fabric of a Retirement Community will only cheapen the quality of Retiree life by creating more expenses to draw from a fixed income. Raising the minimum wage has become more than my High Skilled Tradesmen career I had 10 years ago! And this Tipping thing is over, do your job and make me a pizza

Where is the subsidy? This housing is a business investment with an anticipated profit.

[Charlie'sDad]

The cleaning ladies gave me an estimate of $120 for 2 Bedrooms, 2 bath rooms, kitchen, open dining/living room and den. They (there were 3 of them) were here for 45 minutes !!! That's over $40 an hour. Did they clean very well ? NO. They are not coming back.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Family communities have always existed in The Villages. As far as I know, Villagers don't subsidize them. Residents of family villages do not have access to amenities nor are they golf cart accessible.
I suppose that the Morse family sees an opportunity to derive income from that particular segment of the market. Why would they not? It does not, as you suggest change the fabric of the community.

Raising the minimum wage only creates inflation which actually makes it more difficult for those making minimum wage. Minimum wage was never meant to be something that people could survive or raise a family on.

As far as tipping. I never tip for counter service. It has never been requested until recently. I resent the fact that it is often included in the credit card machines that many fast food companies now use.

Table service on the other hand is a different matter. Service people work hard and take care of our needs. They make a lower minimum age and deserved to be tipped.
Now some might say, just raise their minimum wage to the same level as all other workers. All that would do would be increase the prices on everything in the restaurant. This is especially true since people are not going to do that job for minimum wage. People get into the service business because they know if they do a good job, they will be rewarded.
If you worked this increase into the prices of the product, you need to consider that not only will the restaurant owners have to increase prices by the new wage but they would also have to include the increases in taxes and workman's comp and other expenses into the prices. So if you tip 20% now, imagine a price increase of 25%-30& across the board. Also, if your server does not do a very good job, you have the option of tipping less.

[Vermilion Villager]

Originally Posted by RICH1

Why all of a sudden do Villagers need to subsidize Workforce Housing apartments? Plenty of places to live in surrounding towns that house and support the working men and working ladies.. Changing the fabric of a Retirement Community will only cheapen the quality of Retiree life by creating more expenses to draw from a fixed income. Raising the minimum wage has become more than my High Skilled Tradesmen career I had 10 years ago! And this Tipping thing is over, do your job and make me a pizza

Thank you for doing such a good job defining the word: ENTITLED!

[Vermilion Villager]

Originally Posted by RICH1

Nobody said “ Stupid People” please don’t put words in my mouth!, that’s how people get broken jaws…. And TWISTING my Post about my pay 10 years ago so others only read your TWISTED SPIN is a recipe for Disaster!

Look out everyone....Popeye's gonna eat some spinach!!!!!

[newgirl]

You are incorrect , there is Very little affordable housing within 60 minutes by car to The Villages, that is why there is such a shortage of employees. And when a place under $1.500 a month ( remember most here make $10 hr or less) one has to pay a $100 non refundable
fee just to apply to get it ( usually at least 50 apply to every non 55 plus rental that comes up) I know 4 young families that had to move to Orlando or other areas because they could not find a place to live. If the developer wants to continue to build,

he needs to build some affordable housing that people working for the wages paid here, can afford to buy. The family housing close homes are more outrageous then the homes in The Villages. Most can not afford $200.000 for a 800 sq ft house not including bond assessments, taxes,and Villages usage fee's.
If they don't start building true affordable housing, The Villages will have a bunch or retires that paid lots of money , have money, but they will have no place to go due to lack of employees. As of today, most employees drive at least 45 min to go to work. Not good for the future.

[newgirl]

You are incorrect , there is Very little affordable housing within 60 minutes by car to The Villages, that is why there is such a shortage of employees. And when a place under $1.500 a month ( remember most here make $10 hr or less) one has to pay a $100 non redundant fee just to apply to get it ( usually at least 50 apply to every non 55 plus rental that comes up) I know 4 young families that had to move to Orlando or other areas because they could not find a place to live. If the developer wants to continue to go he needs to build some affordable housing that people working for the wages paid here, can afford to buy. The family housing close homes are more outrageous then the homes in The Villages. Most can not afford $200.000 for a 800 sq ft house not including bond assessments, taxes,and Villages usage fee's.
If they don't start building true affordable housing, The Villages will have a bunch or retires that paid lots of money , have money, but they will have no place to go due to lack of employees. As of today, most employees drive at least 45 min to go to work. Not good for the future
Florida has one of the lowest min wages in the country, and most of the schools are rated lowest in the US. It is time more is done to help young folks.

[Pete Swanson]

Originally Posted by RICH1

Why all of a sudden do Villagers need to subsidize Workforce Housing apartments? Plenty of places to live in surrounding towns that house and support the working men and working ladies.. Changing the fabric of a Retirement Community will only cheapen the quality of Retiree life by creating more expenses to draw from a fixed income. Raising the minimum wage has become more than my High Skilled Tradesmen career I had 10 years ago! And this Tipping thing is over, do your job and make me a pizza

Seriously????

[VApeople]

Originally Posted by newgirl

If the developer wants to continue to go he needs to build some affordable housing that people working for the wages paid here, can afford to buy.

Why does the Developer need to do it?

The local communities like Wildwood seem to be building a lot of housing for non-villagers, and I think that is great.

[blueash]

Originally Posted by RICH1 [edited]
Why all of a sudden do Villagers need to subsidize Workforce Housing apartments? Plenty of places to live in surrounding towns that house and support the working men and working ladies.. ... Raising the minimum wage has become more than my High Skilled Tradesmen career I had 10 years ago! ...

Reply by Blueash:
[edited]. That is why capitalist entrepreneurs are building new housing. That is why the Morse clan, not stupid people at all, are building more family sections. The work force now comes from afar.

And do you expect us to be so gullible as to believe that you as a "High Skilled Tradesman" were paid less than $11 an hour ten years ago?

Originally Posted by RICH1

Nobody said “ Stupid People” please don’t put words in my mouth!, that’s how people get broken jaws…. And TWISTING my Post about my pay 10 years ago so others only read your TWISTED SPIN is a recipe for Disaster!

I said the Morse clan members are not stupid people.. Why are you threatening me and suggesting that my recognition of their financial skills should cause you or anyone to break my jaw. Or maybe you don't read well and somehow think I called you stupid or suggested you thought the Morses were stupid. I did not do either of those things. Read what I wrote again. See post #4

And then you threaten me with disaster??? What is wrong with you? I did not twist your comment which despite the poor wording seems to say that the minimum wage today is higher than your salary 10 years ago. If that is not the meaning of "the minimum wage has become more than my High Skilled Tradesmen career I had 10 years ago" you write very unclearly.
Then you accuse me of only presenting my TWISTED SPIN when I 100% completely included your exact words in my post which is so obvious I don't know how you can make up such a lie about what I wrote. Again see post #4 where your entire post is included above my comment.
Please consider why you need to threaten physical violence even if someone did call you stupid or suggest why a disaster is somehow forthcoming if someone misquotes your words. Wow, just Wow.

[tvbound]

Originally Posted by blueash

I said the Morse clan members are not stupid people.. Why are you threatening me and suggesting that my recognition of their financial skills should cause you or anyone to break my jaw. Or maybe you don't read well and somehow think I called you stupid or suggested you thought the Morses were stupid. I did not do either of those things. Read what I wrote again. See post #4

And then you threaten me with disaster??? What is wrong with you? I did not twist your comment which despite the poor wording seems to say that the minimum wage today is higher than your salary 10 years ago. If that is not the meaning of "the minimum wage has become more than my High Skilled Tradesmen career I had 10 years ago" you write very unclearly.
Then you accuse me of only presenting my TWISTED SPIN when I 100% completely included your exact words in my post which is so obvious I don't know how you can make up such a lie about what I wrote. Again see post #4 where your entire post is included above my comment.
Please consider why you need to threaten physical violence even if someone did call you stupid or suggest why a disaster is somehow forthcoming if someone misquotes your words. Wow, just Wow.

"Please consider why you need to threaten physical violence even if someone did call you stupid or suggest why a disaster is somehow forthcoming if someone misquotes your words. Wow, just Wow."


I can only assume that there aren't any mods around right now, because they normally would have instantly deleted that threatening post, as they're usually pretty good about keeping impotent keyboard warriors/extremists from getting away with things like that...which was beyond the pale.