[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

You've been here longer than I.
This is not the place for research.
This place is 90% opinion, 10% fact.

Like my first post, jus waiting for the "he was bot" posters.........you did not disappoint.

When you first posted you new exactly the response and to me it is warranted.

[Happydaz]

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[Number 10 GI]

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna

… in this case they bought a Commissioner. In the case of Sumter County, they’re sending two commissioners to prison on a phone baloney felony charge. We might as well lay back and enjoy it.

Spanish Springs is being repurposed from a retail, dining, entertainment venue to neighborhood of rental apartments. The nearest houses being sold by the Developer are over 15 miles away. There is no need to provide entertainment that far away. Brownwood serves that purpose.The limited retail and dining base that survives won’t be able to continue to pay for the nightly entertainment.

Get used to it. The restaurants and retail that will have their parking taken away and will fail and be replaced with apartments. That’s the plan, Spanish Springs will be ‘repurposed’. The Developer will have a neat twist on what’s happening, so buy in, lay back and enjoy it! There’s nothing you can to stop it.

I keep hearing this same lament about lack of parking. I drove around there just last week and there is plenty of parking. People might have to walk their lazy butts a 3 or 4 blocks but it is there, just not on the square itself. Just like the other two squares, you have to walk a little way from the parking lot.

[Bilyclub]

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI

I keep hearing this same lament about lack of parking. I drove around there just last week and there is plenty of parking. People might have to walk their lazy butts a 3 or 4 blocks but it is there, just not on the square itself. Just like the other two squares, you have to walk a little way from the parking lot.

The developer is seeking 14 spots to be reserved for the apartment renters on Del Mar, a public street. They can reserve all they want in a parking lot.

[thelegges]

Those who voted yes will have a job next year.. those who voted No will be looking for a new line of work. SS needs help, feels little unsettling in the evening, at least for us.
The start of 7 new apartments with 14 possible occupants will not return SS back to early 2000s, but hopefully change will help, a new movement for SS

[mtdjed]

What real skin does Lady Lake have in Spanish Springs? No investment or owned assets. Perhaps they provide some services for which they are paid. The town centers such as Spanish Springs, Lake Sumter Landing, Brownwood are developer investments. The developer is in a far better place than Lady Lake to know how to manage their assets. As time goes by and stores turn more towards internet sales, existing building assets need to be recycled to new uses. Apartments might bring some new life to the area. Will the Developer make some more money? Hopefully, if it keeps the assets in good shape and vibrant.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Bilyclub

Interesting development: “I voted no at the last commission meeting because of the emotion in this place. It was a bad vote and I am not ashamed to admit it,” Freeman said at Monday’s meeting. He said the taxpayers of Lady Lake should not pay for a lawsuit that could potentially cost up to $500,000 “because of an argument with the Morse family.” He said the town, which was sued by The Villages last year, would have little to no chance of prevailing in the lawsuit.

“They have every right to build apartments,” said Freeman, a resident of Water Oak.

Except, they don't have every "right" to build apartments. It's not zoned residential. In order to build apartments they have to get an "exception." They don't have a "right" to an exception. If they have that right, then I'm gonna exercise my "right" to set up a solar-powered pup-tent in one of the public parking spaces on Main Street, and buy a porto-potty for the space next to it for my own personal use, and run my playlist on my boombox at full blast all day long (which I can do, since there's no daytime noise ordinance).

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by mtdjed

What real skin does Lady Lake have in Spanish Springs? No investment or owned assets. Perhaps they provide some services for which they are paid. The town centers such as Spanish Springs, Lake Sumter Landing, Brownwood are developer investments. The developer is in a far better place than Lady Lake to know how to manage their assets. As time goes by and stores turn more towards internet sales, existing building assets need to be recycled to new uses. Apartments might bring some new life to the area. Will the Developer make some more money? Hopefully, if it keeps the assets in good shape and vibrant.

They have taxes as "real skin." Or loss thereof.

[mtdjed]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

They have taxes as "real skin." Or loss thereof.

That is the problem when people think that "Taxes" are a town's skin. Taxes pay for services given. Real skin is investment. What would we think if the developer boarded up stores that remain vacant for lack of viable occupants. I think we all expect the towns to remain vibrant. Zoning laws can be changed as needs change. Perhaps the Developer is in a better position to evaluate current needs and trends than any of us.

Urban Aging is a problem especially in in a restrictive age community. When first built the people are at some given average age above 55. What interests those people changes over 10, 20, 30 years. Facilities much adapt also. We expect the Developer to accomodate us. Not likely to get much help from Lady Lake other than more embarassing icon images of old ladies, cane carrying icons on the Lady Lake roads.

[Number 10 GI]

Originally Posted by Bilyclub

The developer is seeking 14 spots to be reserved for the apartment renters on Del Mar, a public street. They can reserve all they want in a parking lot.

And how does that change what I said about plenty of parking off the square? If it is truly a public street then I don't believe it is legal for the developer to reserve those spaces for apartment dwellers. Which leads me to believe that the street is private property.

[Get real]

All you whiny people probably would whine about the lawsuit loss and having to pay higher taxes. Town Commissioners should avoid lawsuits that expose their constituents to financial losses.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Get real

All you whiny people probably would whine about the lawsuit loss and having to pay higher taxes. Town Commissioners should avoid lawsuits that expose their constituents to financial losses.

So they should roll over and let people do anything they want?

[thevillages2013]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

You've been here longer than I.
This is not the place for research.
This place is 90% opinion, 10% fact.

Like my first post, jus waiting for the "he was bot" posters.........you did not disappoint.

On the 90% I think you spelled horse$#!t wrong

[thevillages2013]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Except, they don't have every "right" to build apartments. It's not zoned residential. In order to build apartments they have to get an "exception." They don't have a "right" to an exception. If they have that right, then I'm gonna exercise my "right" to set up a solar-powered pup-tent in one of the public parking spaces on Main Street, and buy a porto-potty for the space next to it for my own personal use, and run my playlist on my boombox at full blast all day long (which I can do, since there's no daytime noise ordinance).

What kind of tunes are we talking about on your playlist? Color me curious

[thevillages2013]

Originally Posted by Bilyclub

Interesting development: “I voted no at the last commission meeting because of the emotion in this place. It was a bad vote and I am not ashamed to admit it,” Freeman said at Monday’s meeting. He said the taxpayers of Lady Lake should not pay for a lawsuit that could potentially cost up to $500,000 “because of an argument with the Morse family.” He said the town, which was sued by The Villages last year, would have little to no chance of prevailing in the lawsuit.

“They have every right to build apartments,” said Freeman, a resident of Water Oak.

So that was the pivotal vote that flipped? Help us out here please / so the damn thing passed now?