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SpicyCajunPugs 08-19-2013 05:54 PM

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EdV 08-19-2013 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by njbchbum (Post 729694)
because their community was built with developer funding and not public dollars - and the ownership there pays for the maintenance of same, not the county.

And just to follow up on NJ's comment, even though our roads are private, our by-laws mandate that we allow public access via car or cart to anyone that wants to use the golf course, clubhouse, and restaurant in Stonecrest. I have no problem with that as it would be disingenuous of me to say otherwise.

SpicyCajunPugs 08-19-2013 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve9930 (Post 729696)
You were trespassing. Stonecrest is a totally owned by the Developer and the residents. It is not a CDD. Your not the Villager that broke they gate are you? We've had people ramming the gate with their cart. To access Stonecrest legally you go to the front gate and get a gate pass.

Unfair accusation IMHO

Steve9930 08-19-2013 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SpicyCajunPugs (Post 729706)
Unfair accusation IMHO

Where is the accusation? I asked a legitimate question to a legitimate problem that has occurred.

graciegirl 08-19-2013 06:01 PM

boyhowdy

Steve9930 08-19-2013 06:03 PM

Any news from the big meeting yet? No text messages or phone calls?

andercat 08-19-2013 06:08 PM

Fruitland Park negotiations
 
Several folks have mentioned that the timing of The Wall might have something to do with the negotiations with Fruitland Park. I know that the developer does not want outside business (not owned by the developer) to have golf cart access to the outside businesses. Outside business owners did not pay for the paths therefore why should they benefit from them and take business away from the developers businesses. This makes sense to me. However, the stealth of The Wall, no advanced notice, no explanation, no respect for village residents leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Do you think that this tactic will do more harm than good in the negotiations with Fuitland Park? Would you want to do business with someone like this?

rustyp 08-19-2013 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorFan (Post 729695)
Paradise Dr is in Lake County. So were bonds used to build the roads?

FYI = Paradise Dr was built long before 1998. Most houses on this street are from the 70's and 80's. I have no idea what funds built these roads but doesn't seem likely that 1998 bonds were used.

SpicyCajunPugs 08-19-2013 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve9930 (Post 729710)
Where is the accusation? I asked a legitimate question to a legitimate problem that has occurred.

You claimed he/she was a trespasser even though he said it was an accident, among other things. Calling someone a trespasser is accusing one of a crime, which in my book is very serious.

EdV 08-19-2013 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 729715)
FYI = Paradise Dr was built long before 1998. Most houses on this street are from the 70's and 80's. I have no idea what funds built these roads but doesn't seem likely that 1998 bonds were used.

Rusty, you are correct, no bonds were used for the villages on the east side of 441. But they did have the amenity clause built in to their purchase agreement which you can see in the Orange Blossom declarations that I transposed and posted in the Nuts and Bolts section several years ago.

At some point, transfer of the rights to collect the amenity funds were transferred to the VCCDD. But I don't know all the ins and outs of that.

Steve9930 08-19-2013 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SpicyCajunPugs (Post 729722)
You claimed he/she was a trespasser even though he said it was an accident, among other things. Calling someone a trespasser is accusing one of a crime, which in my book is very serious.

They followed a cart into a private residents though a gate marked for residents only. How is that not trespassing?

SpicyCajunPugs 08-19-2013 06:26 PM

That's correct, no one but the attorneys and powers that be know "all the in and outs" of the situation, and we should all just try to act as reasonable adults and let the legal and civic system work its magic to solve this mess.

gomoho 08-19-2013 06:29 PM

I am currently out of The Villages and enjoying life in the cool mountain air. Can't tell you what a different perspective you get on this thread when you are not in the bubble. It just sounds ridiculous that people from one community are arguing with people from another community that might ride on their golf cart paths. Really??? What is the big deal. Why is everyone so hostile to the "other side".

The issue is with the developer, not each other. Go united to the meeting and say there should be open access and for goodness sakes don't go in there fighting like a bunch of school children about "mine is bigger than yours".

Can't wait to hear what happened in the meeting - I bet it was a shouting match and out of control. You really need to step outside of the bubble to realize how silly this all is and it is seriously making me wonder if I want to continue to live in this community.

Steve9930 08-19-2013 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by gomoho (Post 729728)
I am currently out of The Villages and enjoying life in the cool mountain air. Can't tell you what a different perspective you get on this thread when you are not in the bubble. It just sounds ridiculous that people from one community are arguing with people from another community that might ride on their golf cart paths. Really??? What is the big deal. Why is everyone so hostile to the "other side".

The issue is with the developer, not each other. Go united to the meeting and say there should be open access and for goodness sakes don't go in there fighting like a bunch of school children about "mine is bigger than yours".

Can't wait to hear what happened in the meeting - I bet it was a shouting match and out of control. You really need to step outside of the bubble to realize how silly this all is and it is seriously making me wonder if I want to continue to live in this community.

But where is the fun in that......;-)

Steve9930 08-19-2013 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SpicyCajunPugs (Post 729732)
If you feel it is fair over someone by accident going through your stonecrest gate to call him a criminal trespasser and then asking him if he also caused criminal damages to that gate because he is a villager, then there is a major problem with your posts. WOW.

All factual posts.


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