Not sure how you come to that conclusion. How do you know the developers intentions?

Criminals usually avoid the gates...

Now this is the simplest yet smartest statement yet!!!! If people feel more secure because of a single armed gate than they are sadly mistaken. This will be just a sad case of locking the back door but leaving the front door wide open!!!! I always say locks were only made to keep honest people out!!!!

I agree. We really have no idea why the wall was put up nor who did it. I would guess that it was someone in the developers offices as the developer owns the land. But, having known some people that head up huge organizations, what I've seen is that they were very removed from the day to day operations such as a little wall being put up.

I would think that Gary Morse is much more involved in financing and getting permits for expansion. He probably has people who take of the small things like this.

What Liability?
 

One last thing as far as liability goes. People often have mentioned that Mr Morse or whomever built the wall did it because of a fear of liability. One would assume that he is thinking that those crossing the property that he owns would cause some liability. It would seem to me that the liability would be for those from the Villages crossing too since that plot is not owned by them. Seems to me that all that cross it would cause liability. Just my thought!!!

Can't Make it Up
 

You can't make this stuff up. The one person a person wants to shake hands with before they go is "Morse". Forget all the great people. Morse is the one most important in their life. Another community insists that visitors must state if they want to enter for a Restaurant or Golf before they can enter but propose there be no questions or restrictions to enter The Villages, In another case the Village Manager and President of the VHAs propose a solution to the wall problem to Morse but insists they have no idea who was responsible for it being put up? I swear you can't make this stuff up and there are some who actually either believe this stuff or expect the general public/residents to accept the outrages statements/positions. These only make it more difficult to separate the shaft from the wheat. :loco:

Seems like your quiver of arrows belongs in Michigan . I suggest that Tutt is a lady and does not need to answer questions that have been already answered. But then people of integrity expect to be believed and when they're not they let time prove them right.

If ANYONE is expecting Gary Morse to explain his actions or appear in public over a gate or wall think again.

There have been public figures visit The Villages and are welcomed by various staff members and PROBABLY entertained in the Morse home but Gary Morse never appears in public or makes public comment or releases a press release. The public figures have included a president of the United States.

Janet Tutt is doing what a lot of CEO's do and sometimes her job is mighty tough.

If anyone has been in business it is a little easier to understand and maybe it isn't right to you or perfect to you but if you step back and look at this place that we live and compare it to the places we used to live, most of us would say it is run far better and smoother. Apparently we have a lot of wannabe civic planners, and folks who think they know what would be a better way to do things and know what the motivation is of the Morses who NO one I know has EVER met.

I didn't move here to be part of civic government and I don't really care how the decisions are made as long as things run smoothly and I don't have to PAY anymore than I have budgeted for.

The Morses have learned from a LOT of bad decisions and you can see as The Villages grew south that the cart paths were not placed along large thoroughfares and the processes became smoother and the building teams became more efficient and generally they learned how to do better what they do and make a LOT of money in the process. I am shocked to learn that people are furious about the money being made. I think those people do not understand how things work.

The Morses do not act like elected officials, thank Gawd because they are builders. The rest of it they learned along the way and there are probably roadblocks with some of the surrounding municipalities and county governments in how well they work or don't work with big builder business.

You cannot get blood out of a turnip. They aren't ever going to be transparent and for the most part it works.

Very well put, Gracie.

As to Ms. Tutt, I still have confidence in her ability to manage our community. She was put a very difficult position in this affair. To coin a phrase, she was between a rack and a hard place.

Gary Morse is retired. He is out sailing on his beautiful yacht. Mark Morse and his sisters are running TV.

I don't live in the Villages just too expensive for us, the price of homes that is. I think that the gate going into Paradise Drive should be just for Village golf carts. We were seriously looking into buying in Stonecrest for the price of homes and still have golf cart access to the Villages, a big plus, best of both worlds. Last year had the chance to buy a stucco home with a pool there for 114K, still regret not buying it, I think, but now possibly wouldn't have access to the Villages with a golf cart anyway. It was a good decision for the gate especially if they open up Spruce Creek access also. If they do allow access for Spruce Creek you can expect the prices to skyrocket for homes there, might be a good place to invest in a home for resale. Just thinking.....

You know I always listen when you speak Duffy's mom, but HOW would you know this?

Do you have the same cleaning lady? ;)

I say we don't know who does what or why.:p

Or Who is on first.:024:

I'm sure you are very close to being correct. Someone made a poor decision, it appears resolved. Without the participation of so many this would not have had such a good outcome.

She Works for Us
 

I was not at the meeting but "IF" Janet Tutt made the statement that SHE doesn't know who erected the wall, I would have serious concerns about her honesty. She might be using that old "avoid the question" method and in fact she might not know WHO the exact people who erected the wall but only a stooge would believe she doesn't know who DIRECTED the wall to be erected. It bothers me that she is paid by we the Residents, yet has direct ties to the developer. You state SHE does not need to answer questions that have neen already anwered. Did Ms Tutt ever tell anyone who had the wall erected??? If as you state that question has been answered, who then was it that had the wall erected ??? Lastly, of course she should answer the questions, she is our employee, we pay her salary !!!

I totally agree. What jumped out at me the most from last night's meeting was Janet Tutt saying she didn't know who ordered the wall erected. Last week she knew it was erected because of safety and liability concerns. How can she know why it was erected, but not who ordered it erected?