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renielarson 08-20-2013 10:56 AM

I don't know if Gary Morse is out sailing on his Cracker Bay yacht.

I do know it has been reported that in 2006, Morse transferred most of the direct ownership in the holding company (Holding Company of the Villages Ltd) to his three children: Mark Morse serves as President of the company; Tracy Mathews oversees Villages design; and Jennifer L. Parr is a director. Gary Morse retained the largest block of voting shares, and is credited with the family’s fortune. Billionaire Morse Behind Curtain at Villages - Bloomberg

It doesn't appear he is retired.

Jim 9922 08-20-2013 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 730067)
I totally agree. What jumped out at me the most from last night's meeting was Janet Tutt saying she didn't know who ordered the wall erected. Last week she knew it was erected because of safety and liability concerns. How can she know why it was erected, but not who ordered it erected?

Seems to me she behaves just like a public employee when something goes wrong; bob, weave, officate, duck, deflect, and deny about matters that are suppose to be under your control. Maybe, even, she was the one who made the final authorization. Who knows, she's certainly not telling. She has a better wall around her than the concrete one they actually put up.:jester:

duffysmom 08-20-2013 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 730021)
You know I always listen when you speak Duffy's mom, but HOW would you know this?

Do you have the same cleaning lady? ;)

I say we don't know who does what or why.:p

Or Who is on first.:024:

Gracie, the last time Gary called me he was in Barbados on his yacht.

Cracker Bay Yacht (ex. Campbell Bay) Photos - Hakvoort...

He told me to tell you the check is in the mail.:1rotfl::1rotfl:

For those of you folks who haven't met Gary, here's a picture of him.

He is the... - Gary Morse - OrlandoSentinel.com

graciegirl 08-20-2013 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by duffysmom (Post 730104)
Gracie, the last time Gary called me he was in Barbados on his yacht.

Cracker Bay Yacht (ex. Campbell Bay) Photos - Hakvoort...

He told me to tell you the check is in the mail.:1rotfl::1rotfl:

For those of you folks who haven't met Gary, here's a picture of him.

He is the... - Gary Morse - OrlandoSentinel.com

There are those who believe that Duffy's mom and I know you meant it as a joke.

WOW. I have never seen this picture of Gary Morse and this is dated in 1999. Wow. Am I allowed to copy and print this?. I think he has a nice face. His teeth aren't perfect. I bet he grew up just like I did. Didn't have the money for having teeth straightened either back then.
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( STEPHEN M. DOWELL, ORLANDO SENTINEL / October 14, 1999 )
He is the developer of The Villages, the overwhelmingly Republican retirement community of 100,000 sprawling over Lake, Sumter and Marion counties. Morse, his family and companies donated $2.4 million in 2012 alone to Republican causes. His jets fly high-ranking party members and his yacht the Cracker Bay was the site of a party during the GOP convention for those who put together more than $1 million for GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney. He was also a Florida presidential elector for both of George W. Bush's elections. (Morse is rarely photographed in public; the photo here is from 1999.)

rp001 08-20-2013 12:24 PM

For the record, my understanding is that Mr Morse is very much a "HANDS ON MANAGER" . He has a reputation among the district as being the first one in and the last to leave the office every day. He maintains a very low profile but is absolutely tuned in to the goings on in this district. I got that info from a manager within the district and I will respect his confidentiality. I believe that this was very much a decision made by Morse and is tied in to theFruitland Park issue..That is feeling not based on any fact but if it quacks like a duck....

Peachie 08-20-2013 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by rp001 (Post 730119)
For the record, my understanding is that Mr Morse is very much a "HANDS ON MANAGER" . He has a reputation among the district as being the first one in and the last to leave the office every day. He maintains a very low profile but is absolutely tuned in to the goings on in this district. I got that info from a manager within the district and I will respect his confidentiality. I believe that this was very much a decision made by Morse and is tied in to theFruitland Park issue..That is feeling not based on any fact but if it quacks like a duck....


And what is wrong with that? I'm curious as to why you need to know how every decision is made. IMHO, the suppositions on here have beat all of these questions to death and I also had a hand in that. Would knowing change anything, no. Maybe there is something more interesting happening in the world right now.

duffysmom 08-20-2013 01:22 PM

Life Goes On....
 
Gracie, never for a minute would I believe you are on the Morse payroll.:rant-rave: I enjoy the fact that you love living here as much as I do and feel only gratitude towards the founding family of paradise. All the vitriol towards the developer is sad; I think Gary knows the majority of Villagers are happy and grateful for the lifestyle he's given us. Whatever happens regarding the gate will not interfere one iota in the pleasure I derive from living here.

graciegirl 08-20-2013 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by duffysmom (Post 730143)
Gracie, never for a minute would I believe you are on the Morse payroll.:rant-rave: I enjoy the fact that you love living here as much as I do and feel only gratitude towards the founding family of paradise. All the vitriol towards the developer is sad; I think Gary knows the majority of Villagers are happy and grateful for the lifestyle he's given us. Whatever happens regarding the gate will not interfere one iota in the pleasure I derive from living here.

I luv ya Duffy's mom and always have.

Did I see a post inquiring about a puppy dog on here a week or so ago?

I stand ready to do a shower. Having you as a mom would be a wonderful thing for a furry creature.

deltaguy 08-20-2013 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by duffysmom (Post 730104)
Gracie, the last time Gary called me he was in Barbados on his yacht.

Cracker Bay Yacht (ex. Campbell Bay) Photos - Hakvoort...

He told me to tell you the check is in the mail.:1rotfl::1rotfl:

For those of you folks who haven't met Gary, here's a picture of him.

He is the... - Gary Morse - OrlandoSentinel.com

Anyone have any idea about the average cost of a home at Bridgeport at Laurel Valley?

Peachie 08-20-2013 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by deltaguy (Post 730204)
Anyone have any idea about the average cost of a home at Bridgeport at Laurel Valley?

I'd suggest you talk with a realtor, if you're looking to buy. You may want to start your own thread regarding real estate in The Villages.

golf4me 08-20-2013 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Peachie (Post 730215)
I'd suggest you talk with a realtor, if you're looking to buy. You may want to start your own thread regarding real estate in The Villages.

I agree.

Indydealmaker 08-20-2013 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by deltaguy (Post 730204)
Anyone have any idea about the average cost of a home at Bridgeport at Laurel Valley?

Not the brightest bulb on the tree? Or just not very funny?

deltaguy 08-20-2013 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 730221)
Ask Gary Morse, I heard he bought a home there. :popcorn: :girlneener:

Are you sure that wasn't Richard Schwartz, Gary's Half Brother and the former Villages Golf Director now in exile?

Peachie 08-20-2013 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Indydealmaker (Post 730224)
Not the brightest bulb on the tree? Or just not very funny?


Think you nailed it, Indy, not the brightest crayon in the box...

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 08-20-2013 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by deltaguy (Post 730204)
Anyone have any idea about the average cost of a home at Bridgeport at Laurel Valley?

There's only one for sale there now. But if you check this page you can get an idea after a while.

The Villages - Florida's premier active adult retirement community. Search Resale Homes

Moderator 08-20-2013 04:22 PM

Ok, let's get back on topic and ignore the red herring about real estate listings.

chuckinca 08-20-2013 05:47 PM

Websters:

[from the practice of drawing a red herring across a trail to confuse hunting dogs] : something that distracts attention from the real issue

.

Bogie Shooter 08-20-2013 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by chuckinca (Post 730289)
Websters:

[from the practice of drawing a red herring across a trail to confuse hunting dogs] : something that distracts attention from the real issue

.

Thank you, now we know......................

gomoho 08-20-2013 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by chuckinca (Post 730289)
Websters:

[from the practice of drawing a red herring across a trail to confuse hunting dogs] : something that distracts attention from the real issue

.

chuckinca - excellent comedic timing. thank you 'cause smoke was starting to blow out of me ears.

Warren Kiefer 08-20-2013 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by duffysmom (Post 730143)
Gracie, never for a minute would I believe you are on the Morse payroll.:rant-rave: I enjoy the fact that you love living here as much as I do and feel only gratitude towards the founding family of paradise. All the vitriol towards the developer is sad; I think Gary knows the majority of Villagers are happy and grateful for the lifestyle he's given us. Whatever happens regarding the gate will not interfere one iota in the pleasure I derive from living here.

Gary Morse gave me this lifestyle ???? THEN; Why did I pay more for my home here than I would have in Stonecrest, Why do I pay monthly Amenity fees, Why do I pay $120 per month just for water when 4/9ths of the water is to keep an easement along the streets green, Why do I pay a lawn care guy to mow this same easement property, Why do I pay a yearly special assessment and Why do residents pay the highest green fees within 20 miles to play Villages Championship courses. I am thinking hard, but just cannot come up with much that Gary has given me.

Bogie Shooter 08-20-2013 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Warren Kiefer (Post 730324)
Gary Morse gave me this lifestyle ???? THEN; Why did I pay more for my home here than I would have in Stonecrest, Why do I pay monthly Amenity fees, Why do I pay $120 per month just for water when 4/9ths of the water is to keep an easement along the streets green, Why do I pay a lawn care guy to mow this same easement property, Why do I pay a yearly special assessment and Why do residents pay the highest green fees within 20 miles to play Villages Championship courses. I am thinking hard, but just cannot come up with much that Gary has given me.

A lot of things to complain about..........................You do know how to fix all those problems, right?

buggyone 08-20-2013 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Warren Kiefer (Post 730324)
Gary Morse gave me this lifestyle ???? THEN; Why did I pay more for my home here than I would have in Stonecrest, Why do I pay monthly Amenity fees, Why do I pay $120 per month just for water when 4/9ths of the water is to keep an easement along the streets green, Why do I pay a lawn care guy to mow this same easement property, Why do I pay a yearly special assessment and Why do residents pay the highest green fees within 20 miles to play Villages Championship courses. I am thinking hard, but just cannot come up with much that Gary has given me.

I am not sure if you have ever heard of a disk jockey named "The Greaseman". He would give you some sage advice on what to do if you are not happy here.

wendyquat 08-20-2013 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TVMayor (Post 729960)
Days ago Janet Tutt said the wall was put up for security and liability reasons, and she stated she runs things in TV. Last night at the commission meeting when asked the first time why was the wall put up she walked away from the microphone and did not respond to the question. Later the question was asked again, “why was the wall put up and by who” she returned to the mike and answered, “I do not know”.

In Michigan we would say she is lying.

So she pled the FIFTH?:loco:

perrjojo 08-20-2013 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Warren Kiefer (Post 730324)
Gary Morse gave me this lifestyle ???? THEN; Why did I pay more for my home here than I would have in Stonecrest, Why do I pay monthly Amenity fees, Why do I pay $120 per month just for water when 4/9ths of the water is to keep an easement along the streets green, Why do I pay a lawn care guy to mow this same easement property, Why do I pay a yearly special assessment and Why do residents pay the highest green fees within 20 miles to play Villages Championship courses. I am thinking hard, but just cannot come up with much that Gary has given me.

Beats me..maybe because you thought this was the best place to live
Maybe because you found this more desirable than other places.
Only you can say why you chose to live here. I chose it because after 10 years of visiting, renting and looking all over the country I could not find anything that suited my purpose and lifestyle choices for this price. Don't think Gary gave me anything but value for my investment.

Warren Kiefer 08-20-2013 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 730352)
A lot of things to complain about..........................You do know how to fix all those problems, right?

No, you tell me, I am interested in what Mr Morse has "given" me as compared to what I pay to have. I don't think my comments were so much complaints as they were in response to another's posting about what Gary has "given" me. Given, as in free, no cost.

perrjojo 08-20-2013 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Warren Kiefer (Post 730414)
No, you tell me, I am interested in what Mr Morse has "given" me as compared to what I pay to have. I don't think my comments were so much complaints as they were in response to another's posting about what Gary has "given" me. Given, as in free, no cost.

Mr Morse did not give you anything...he made it available to you by his foresight, investments and ingenuity. You chose to buy into what he offered. If you are not happy, perhaps you made bad investment.

Warren Kiefer 08-20-2013 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 730394)
I am not sure if you have ever heard of a disk jockey named "The Greaseman". He would give you some sage advice on what to do if you are not happy here.

I did not say I did not enjoy living here, Why is it so difficult to understand I was responding to another post in which the auther praised Gary Morse for what he had given that poster. The key word was given, I have not been given anything, I pay Mr Morse and others a premium for my lifestyle here. I provide employment, I keep restaurants in business, I keep medical facilities humming, golf courses etc etc etc

DougB 08-20-2013 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Warren Kiefer (Post 730418)
?..........I pay Mr Morse and others a premium for my lifestyle here. I provide employment, I keep restaurants in business, I keep medical facilities humming, golf courses etc etc etc

Thank you for all you do

Xavier 08-20-2013 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Warren Kiefer (Post 730324)
Gary Morse gave me this lifestyle ???? THEN; Why did I pay more for my home here than I would have in Stonecrest, Why do I pay monthly Amenity fees, Why do I pay $120 per month just for water when 4/9ths of the water is to keep an easement along the streets green, Why do I pay a lawn care guy to mow this same easement property, Why do I pay a yearly special assessment and Why do residents pay the highest green fees within 20 miles to play Villages Championship courses. I am thinking hard, but just cannot come up with much that Gary has given me.


Warren,

It makes me feel so good to know that someone has a purpose in life. A ray of sunshine in an otherwise bleak world. You've made my day so much more pleasant. Thanks. :angel:

Xavier

Warren Kiefer 08-20-2013 09:55 PM

You Agree
 
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Originally Posted by perrjojo (Post 730416)
Mr Morse did not give you anything...he made it available to you by his foresight, investments and ingenuity. You chose to buy into what he offered. If you are not happy, perhaps you made bad investment.

So you actually agree with me. Didn't say I was unhappy, not at all !!! You said exactly what I stated, I quote you, "Mr. Morse did not give you anything "

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 08-20-2013 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Warren Kiefer (Post 730423)
So you actually agree with me. Didn't say I was unhappy, not at all !!! You said exactly what I stated, I quote you, "Mr. Morse did not give you anything "

He gave you an opportunity to buy in here and enjoy this wonderful lifestyle. If Mr Morse had not given us that opportunity, we would not have so many of the things that we happily pay for.

And I don't understand all of this home prices here being higher than everywhere else. I've look around and I don't see it. But if it is true, it comes down to the most three important things in real estate, location, location and location.

Nor do I understand the complaining about utility bills being higher here. My water and electric are less here than any place I've ever lived.

Mr Morse has made billions by giving people the opportunity to have a wonderful lifestyle for a reasonable price. If the cost of living here was not a good value, 100,000 people would be living elsewhere.

perrjojo 08-20-2013 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Warren Kiefer (Post 730418)
I did not say I did not enjoy living here, Why is it so difficult to understand I was responding to another post in which the auther praised Gary Morse for what he had given that poster. The key word was given, I have not been given anything, I pay Mr Morse and others a premium for my lifestyle here. I provide employment, I keep restaurants in business, I keep medical facilities humming, golf courses etc etc etc

I understand your point but here is where I differ. Yes, we pay for our homes and yes, we pay amenity fees etc. However Mr Morse came up with a unique life style which is unavailable anywhere else that I know of. He has put forth an amazing amount of cash investment, time and inguneity to make
TV what it is today. He might have made a lot of money and he might not have made a lot of money. It was HIS gamble. Because he is a smart business man TV has grown to over 100,000 people and he as made a lot of money. That was no accident. So I say he "gave" us something that we cannot find elsewhere. Yes, we pay for it but without his concept, investment and management, it would not be available to us. Is he infailable or perfect? No, but who is?
Is it the best thing I have found? YES!

perrjojo 08-20-2013 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 730426)
He gave you an opportunity to buy in here and enjoy this wonderful lifestyle. If Mr Morse had not given us that opportunity, we would not have so many of the things that we happily pay for.

And I don't understand all of this home prices here being higher than everywhere else. I've look around and I don't see it. But if it is true, it comes down to the most three important things in real estate, location, location and location.

Nor do I understand the complaining about utility bills being higher here. My water and electric are less here than any place I've ever lived.

Mr Morse has made billions by giving people the opportunity to have a wonderful lifestyle for a reasonable price. If the cost of living here was not a good value, 100,000 people would be living elsewhere.

Thank you for a voice of reason!

Warren Kiefer 08-20-2013 10:18 PM

My Last Comment
 
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Originally Posted by Warren Kiefer (Post 730414)
No, you tell me, I am interested in what Mr Morse has "given" me as compared to what I pay to have. I don't think my comments were so much complaints as they were in response to another's posting about what Gary has "given" me. Given, as in free, no cost.

I am going to give it a rest with this last comment. We have been dancing around the word "given" too long. Many went into the attack mode when I said Mr. Morse had not given me anything. I stand by those words. Mr. Morse created a product, I bought into that product and am happy here. So put your weapons away and end the attack. On the other hand, when I think of a developer "giving" to his development residents, Del Webb just up the road, is a good example. Del Webb Residents were GIVEN the streets and all amenities with the exception being the championship golf courses. Good night all !!!!

Bogie Shooter 08-21-2013 06:21 AM

Its time to pull the plug on this thread.................................

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 08-21-2013 07:13 AM

Sounds like Del Webb has given away all of his headaches. Now the community is going to have to have some kind of board made up of residents that have no experience in property management to take care of all the problems and expenses that come with owing streets and rec centers.
He kept the golf courses, of course, because they make a lot of money.

Moderator 08-21-2013 07:50 AM

Original point has been discussed fully. Civil discussions regarding other topics can be accomplished via starting new threads.

This thread is now closed.

Moderator


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