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Polar Bear 04-03-2017 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Reiver (Post 1381944)
..."If a driver can safely pass within the lane or by changing lanes, he is not being impeded."...
Convenient quote. How about this one from your link...

"no person shall stop, park, or leave standing any vehicle, whether attended or unattended, upon the paved or main-traveled part of the highway when it is practicable to stop, park, or so leave the vehicle off such part of the highway."

photo1902 04-04-2017 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan (Post 1381909)
When the landscapers need to get to a back yard to do a job (as they did mine) and you don't have enough space on either side of your home because of the close proximity to the neighbors landscaping (as both sides of my home is) for the landscapers to get their equipment back to do the job (as they had to do mine), then it has to be accessed somehow (as the landscapers did mine from the diamond lane on St. Charles).

My quote is above, so you don't have to scroll back
to re-read it; I just re-read mine again and I didn't see where I wrote they CAN park anywhere to access their job, I said it's PROBABLY the easiest place for them park to access their job.

GE has his own point of view, I have mine and you have yours. GE's home/lot is probably twice the size of mine and, if he's had landscaping done, probably had enough room on the sides for landscapers to drive to the back yard; unfortunately, I, along with numerous others, don't.

Such quibbling over semantics may seem like petty stuff, but to some, it's a necessity.

Again, just let it be..........
Excellent points. We live on a culdesac, and when we had landscaping work done, the landscapers had no choice but to park along the main road behind our house. There was no way they could get the equipment between our house and the neighbors. Point is, we all got over it. Just like when our neighbors had pools and landscaping work done, we carefully passed any construction vehicles, and safely continued on our way.

Reiver 04-04-2017 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1381957)
Convenient quote. How about this one from your link...

"no person shall stop, park, or leave standing any vehicle, whether attended or unattended, upon the paved or main-traveled part of the highway when it is practicable to stop, park, or so leave the vehicle off such part of the highway."
That would make the grassy shoulders looks quite divine, wouldn't it.

joldnol 04-04-2017 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by photo1902 (Post 1381967)
Excellent points. We live on a culdesac, and when we had landscaping work done, the landscapers had no choice but to park along the main road behind our house. There was no way they could get the equipment between our house and the neighbors. Point is, we all got over it. Just like when our neighbors had pools and landscaping work done, we carefully passed any construction vehicles, and safely continued on our way.
So someone with lazy contractors can put the public in peril? They and you had a choice. None of the houses along hillsbourough had " narrow" yards forcing the obstruction of of the right of way. A neighbor just had a pool installed and they were able to accomplish it from the front. He has a very narrow side yard. Telling the imperiled public to "get over it" is BS.

golfing eagles 04-04-2017 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by joldnol (Post 1382068)
So someone with lazy contractors can put the public in peril? They and you had a choice. None of the houses along hillsbourough had " narrow" yards forcing the obstruction of of the right of way. A neighbor just had a pool installed and they were able to accomplish it from the front. He has a very narrow side yard. Telling the imperiled public to "get over it" is BS.
I agree, but what we really need to know is what THE LAW states. If it is legal, then it just an inconvenience to those on the cart path and somewhat rude, but permitted. If it is not legal, then the sheriff can raise some easy revenue, and the landscapers will change their ways or pay the price.

Dixie Duo 04-04-2017 09:33 AM
The answer is simple. Unload the equipment and what you need then move the truck and trailer to a place that does not interfere with traffic flow.

Polar Bear 04-04-2017 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Reiver (Post 1382053)
That would make the grassy shoulders looks quite divine, wouldn't it.
Who besides you is talking about grass shoulders?

Polar Bear 04-04-2017 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Dixie Duo (Post 1382076)
The answer is simple. Unload the equipment and what you need then move the truck and trailer to a place that does not interfere with traffic flow.
Way too simple, DD. :)

golow 04-04-2017 11:04 AM
I don’t tolerate this type of parking. I call community watch when I see it, and now I see much less of it (on Hillsborough Trail specifically). I don’t care if it is legal or illegal; it is clearly a safety hazard. An important step in improving safety is not having these behaviors that may seem to be a small matter but will eventually be a contributing part of an accident.
If you don’t want to call community watch (352-753-0550), send me a private message and I will do it.
However, if workers park there just to unload/load at the start/end of the day, I would be OK with that. I try not to be complete zealot.

photo1902 04-04-2017 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by joldnol (Post 1382068)
So someone with lazy contractors can put the public in peril? They and you had a choice. None of the houses along hillsbourough had " narrow" yards forcing the obstruction of of the right of way. A neighbor just had a pool installed and they were able to accomplish it from the front. He has a very narrow side yard. Telling the imperiled public to "get over it" is BS.
"Put the public in peril". A bit dramatic, don't you think.

joldnol 04-04-2017 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1381150)
What do you think?

Landscapers working in the back yard of a home that backs up to Gayle Mill Drive park their truck in the diamond lane on Gayle Mill for the entire day while they do their work.

What do you think? Illegal? Legal but inadvisable? Perfectly fine?
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Originally Posted by photo1902 (Post 1382123)
"Put the public in peril". A bit dramatic, don't you think.
Not at all, I've been in situations where it is a blind manuver. Some of the landscape material not only obstructs the cart path but it also partially blocks the car lane too.

Polar Bear 04-04-2017 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by golow (Post 1382119)
I don’t tolerate this type of parking. I call community watch when I see it, and now I see much less of it (on Hillsborough Trail specifically). I don’t care if it is legal or illegal; it is clearly a safety hazard. An important step in improving safety is not having these behaviors that may seem to be a small matter but will eventually be a contributing part of an accident.
If you don’t want to call community watch (352-753-0550), send me a private message and I will do it.
However, if workers park there just to unload/load at the start/end of the day, I would be OK with that. I try not to be complete zealot.
So then it officially is against the rules? Good to hear...and know. :) (And I agree with your closing statement.)

photo1902 04-04-2017 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by joldnol (Post 1382166)
Not at all, I've been in situations where it is a blind manuver. Some of the landscape material not only obstructs the cart path but it also partially blocks the car lane too.
I think you misunderstood my statement. I'm not suggesting landscapers (or anyone else for that matter) simply park and leave their vehicle(s) in a cart lane for the sake of convenience. That being said, there are times when given the house having work done, it may not be practical or possible to park the equipment in front. Since I don't know your particular street, parking work vehicles, trailers, front end loaders, etc, cause just as much (if not more) congestion and blockage on the road in front of the house. In my particular case, there was less room for vehicles and carts to pass on the road in front of my house, if the landscaper briefly parked their equipment in that location.

yabbadu 04-04-2017 01:51 PM
As the Beetles song says " Let It be...Let It be "

Much ado about nothing........

photo1902 04-04-2017 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by yabbadu (Post 1382231)
As the Beetles song says " Let It be...Let It be "

Much ado about nothing........
Exactly!

Reiver 04-04-2017 02:20 PM
Just wondering; a half a block up the road where the diamond path disappears and the entire road narrows, is it okay for him to park there?

Polar Bear 04-04-2017 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Reiver (Post 1382248)
Just wondering; a half a block up the road where the diamond path disappears and the entire road narrows, is it okay for him to park there?
If you're talking about when the street becomes local residential with one lane with shoulder in each direction...sure. Not totally blocking a dedicated thru-lane then, like they would be a half a block down the road where the diamond path appears.

Polar Bear 04-06-2017 01:40 PM
I had the opportunity this morning to hear Janet Tutt speak to this issue. She addressed the issue if it were to occur in Sumter County. So here is her answer as it applies to Sumter County facilities. I assume the situation would be similar in other counties, but I don't really know...

Sumter County requires that vehicles parked as described in this thread use safety cones in the manner prescribed by the County. If the cones are used properly, the County will not take any action. However, Janet said that if the vehicles are left for an extended period, citizens should call Community Watch, who will investigate and request that the workers move the vehicle...even though not deemed illegal by Sumter County policy...because it is causing a safety issue. She didn't say what might happen, if anything, if the contractor refused to move the vehicle.

She described the situation as a personal pet peeve and she definitely does consider this sort of parking unsafe for extended periods.

maybe 04-06-2017 02:12 PM
I am surprised no one has discussed visitor parking on such streets. If 10 guests for a party come in 6 cars, the cars will not all fit in the driveway!

Polar Bear 04-06-2017 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by maybe (Post 1383182)
I am surprised no one has discussed visitor parking on such streets. If 10 guests for a party come in 6 cars, the cars will not all fit in the driveway!
Heheh. I feel your pain. :) But this thread is about the distribution streets with two thru lanes...one auto lane and one diamond (multimodal) lane...not local streets with a single lane+shoulder where most driveways connect.

Shimpy 04-06-2017 05:30 PM
I agree with Golfing Eagles. It has always annoyed me that they didn't park in the front of the home as they would in most homes. Instead they block a lane just to make it easier for themselves. Most cart drivers would be upset to see a cart or car blocking the lane for a few minutes while reading a map or talking on a phone but it doesn't faze them if a builder, or whatever parks there all day long.

kcrazorbackfan 04-06-2017 09:13 PM
[QUOTE=Shimpy;1383269]I agree with Golfing Eagles. It has always annoyed me that they didn't park in the front of the home as they would in most homes. Instead they block a lane just to make it easier for themselves. Most cart drivers would be upset to see a cart or car blocking the lane for a few minutes while reading a map or talking on a phone but it doesn't faze them if a builder, or whatever parks there all day long.[/QUOTE]

Probably because the contractors are there WORKING and the people in the cars/carts parked in the diamond lane could drive a few hundred yards to pull off the road to read a map or talk on their phone.

Wouldn't it be a boring place to live if everyone here agreed on what annoys them or their point of views?

Polar Bear 04-06-2017 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan (Post 1383338)
...Probably because the contractors are there WORKING...
So you can park ANYWHERE as long as you're working. That's good to know.

photo1902 04-07-2017 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by maybe (Post 1383182)
I am surprised no one has discussed visitor parking on such streets. If 10 guests for a party come in 6 cars, the cars will not all fit in the driveway!
There is nothing illegal (nor is it a violation of a deed restriction) to park alongside a road in front of a house/villa. I've heard complaints over the years, including that cars had to be parked in the garage and not left overnight in a driveway, which is simply not true, either. The only exception is boats, RV's and vehicles over 3/4 ton.


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