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Sophie11 08-29-2014 08:23 AM

If the word got out that we all carried this would not of happened!

Sophie11 08-29-2014 08:27 AM

Thank you for sharing this as we are new and it will make me lock our doors!

Bogie Shooter 08-29-2014 08:45 AM

You mean you never locked your doors? In the past?

CFrance 08-29-2014 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 930090)
You mean you never locked your doors? In the past?

Dumb as it was, we never locked our doors either till the '90s. Unless we went out of town. And didn't start locking our cars till the mid-'90s.

Not anymore.

graciegirl 09-27-2014 05:45 PM

Breaking news.
 
The online news has this headline under breaking news. It sounds like it could be related to this case.

Man suspected in sex assault of woman in her 70’s


I owe everyone an apology. I was skeptical because some very valid sources were thinking she was confused. I am sorry.

Wandatime 09-27-2014 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 944806)
The online news has this headline under breaking news. It sounds like it could be related to this case.

Man suspected in sex assault of woman in her 70’s


I owe everyone an apology. I was skeptical because some very valid sources were thinking she was confused. I am sorry.

No apologies necessary. We don't know what we don't know.

kittygilchrist 09-27-2014 06:05 PM

We should be careful with each other to say what sources validate our opinions.

Birdie Dreamer 09-27-2014 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 944806)
The online news has this headline under breaking news. It sounds like it could be related to this case.

Man suspected in sex assault of woman in her 70’s


I owe everyone an apology. I was skeptical because some very valid sources were thinking she was confused. I am sorry.

Probably not the same case. This incident was July 20. Duval incident was August 16.

CFrance 09-27-2014 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Birdie Dreamer (Post 944818)
Probably not the same case. This incident was July 20. Duval incident was August 16.

Also, the circumstances of the incident just reported in the online news do not sound the same as those of the prior incident of August 16.

kittygilchrist 09-27-2014 06:24 PM

The article in online news says the perp's dna matches other rapes...now I really don not understand why the sheriffs dept. was so tight lipped about the Duval incident. And by the way, the woman said she was drugged. Confusion and drowsiness next day would be normal.

I think the community is put at risk when news of crimes is withheld.

mixsonci 09-28-2014 04:30 AM

And it doesn't just happen in TV, when I was in Virginia at the beginning of the year, there were two stories about single women being raped in their homes within a couple weeks of each other... they were 93 and 95 years old. It was a big story simply because of their age. I don't think they caught the guy, but I think they were of the assumption that it was the same guy for obvious reasons. I left Virginia shortly after this happened so I don't know the outcome. Don't know if there were more incidents or if they caught anyone. Very sad. They interviewed the ladies, but didn't show their faces, but it was very sad to watch and listen to them. There are sickos everywhere, but it's good to know when it happens close to home so you can be extra vigilant when danger is imminent. There's a big difference, IMO, between a "smash and grab" and an actual personal assault on someone.

Cedwards38 09-28-2014 05:45 AM

Now don't get me wrong. I love what the Daily Sun does for me as far as keeping me up on activities in The Villages, but until it becomes, or we get a real newspaper that covers all the news good and bad we will only be going on rampant speculation and rumor. We deserve to know exactly what happened and I have to believe that the Daily Sun is doing us a disservice by not telling us. The Daily Sun's philosophy seems to be taken directly from the Jack Nicholson character in the film, "A Few Good Men," when he says "you can't handle the truth." Come on Daily Sun! We're adults and can handle it.

Birdie Dreamer 09-28-2014 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Cedwards38 (Post 944955)
Now don't get me wrong. I love what the Daily Sun does for me as far as keeping me up on activities in The Villages, but until it becomes, or we get a real newspaper that covers all the news good and bad we will only be going on rampant speculation and rumor. We deserve to know exactly what happened and I have to believe that the Daily Sun is doing us a disservice by not telling us. The Daily Sun's philosophy seems to be taken directly from the Jack Nicholson character in the film, "A Few Good Men," when he says "you can't handle the truth." Come on Daily Sun! We're adults and can handle it.

We can debate about the Daily Sun all we want. I think we need to consider that law enforcement is keeping details confidential as they complete their investigation in this case. Otherwise it would have been published in other news sources. Seems a bit unfair to place all the blame on TDS in this case.

robertj1954 09-28-2014 06:53 AM

Every citizen has a constitutional right to possess a firearm. Florida recognizes this right and like mentioned, many Floridians do have firearms. I would only encourage that if you do purchase a firearm for protection. Educate and train yourself on the firearm. Never carry a firearm if you plan to consume alcohol! Impaired judgement and firearms are a recipe for disaster. Responsible firearm owners understand they are used only for protection and recreation.

MikeV 09-28-2014 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TNLAKEPANDA (Post 929430)
I believe that FL also has a open carry law if you have a CWP? Can't wait to cruise the town squares with my 1911 on my hip LOL :police:

Open carry in Florida is only allowed if you are on your way to hunt or a to target range. You can not just carry in public places.

MikeV 09-28-2014 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 929403)
You will do just fine. You have a sense of humor. And so far....none of us have shot each other.

I do have a bunch of fearless girlfriends with supersoakers who stand at the ready to discharge justice.

:MOJE_whot::MOJE_whot::MOJE_whot:

janmcn 09-28-2014 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mixsonci (Post 944943)
And it doesn't just happen in TV, when I was in Virginia at the beginning of the year, there were two stories about single women being raped in their homes within a couple weeks of each other... they were 93 and 95 years old. It was a big story simply because of their age. I don't think they caught the guy, but I think they were of the assumption that it was the same guy for obvious reasons. I left Virginia shortly after this happened so I don't know the outcome. Don't know if there were more incidents or if they caught anyone. Very sad. They interviewed the ladies, but didn't show their faces, but it was very sad to watch and listen to them. There are sickos everywhere, but it's good to know when it happens close to home so you can be extra vigilant when danger is imminent. There's a big difference, IMO, between a "smash and grab" and an actual personal assault on someone.



The difference is in Virginia the news was reported in a timely manner, I assume. It has been two months since this incident happened, and this is the first we have heard of it.

The news organizations are doing a disservice to the community by not reporting it, and allowing others to be vulnerable while the perpetrator is free to commit other crimes.

Shimpy 09-28-2014 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The Mountaineer (Post 929397)

Hope to see all of you in January. I'm coming unarmed, though.
:smiley::smiley::smiley:

That's your choice but I wouldn't let the world know how vulnerable you are to prove a point.

CFrance 09-28-2014 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kittygilchrist (Post 944827)
The article in online news says the perp's dna matches other rapes...now I really don not understand why the sheriffs dept. was so tight lipped about the Duval incident. And by the way, the woman said she was drugged. Confusion and drowsiness next day would be normal.

I think the community is put at risk when news of crimes is withheld.

The DNA match was to other incidents in the Leesburg jurisdiction, not the incident in Duval. I don't think the incidents are related, or somebody would have said so. The fact that we have heard nothing more about the Duval incident indicates to me that they either haven't caught the perp in that case, or there is something else going on there.

kittygilchrist 09-28-2014 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 945206)
The DNA match was to other incidents in the Leesburg jurisdiction, not the incident in Duval. I don't think the incidents are related, or somebody would have said so. The fact that we have heard nothing more about the Duval incident indicates to me that they either haven't caught the perp in that case, or there is something else going on there.

I have a Leroy Jethro Gibbs gut feeling about this guy being the perpetrator in Duval.

wendyquat 09-28-2014 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bimmertl (Post 929375)
Yup, don't fool with armed old people who take the responsibility seriously!

Fearing intruder, Tampa grandmother shoots grandson, 7

This grandma was obviously not trained in the safe use of a gun! NRA insists on safety classes!

Barefoot 09-28-2014 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by kittygilchrist (Post 944816)
We should be careful with each other to say what sources validate our opinions.

Exactly.

zonerboy 09-28-2014 07:03 PM

I still fail to understand how knowing the "true" gory details of the incident in Duval is going to be of benefit to the "community" or to any person in the Villages.
If you are the type of person who considers home invasion to be a significant threat to your well being, then get a gun, or alarm system, or secure locks, or whatever relieves your anxiety.
If you're not, then don't.
No details necessary.

MoeVonB61 09-28-2014 07:24 PM

THANK YOU KittyGilchrist for releasing the story!...I was personally attacked by several here because I intimated there is a "Higher Power" here in the Villages that has a "STRONG INFLUENCE" over what is published in the Daily Sun.............and BTW Cedward38 YOU CAN GET home delivery here of the Orlando Sentinel....but you still need the Daily Sun for activity listings.

Chazz 09-28-2014 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by zonerboy (Post 945316)
I still fail to understand how knowing the "true" gory details of the incident in Duval is going to be of benefit to the "community" or to any person in the Villages.
If you are the type of person who considers home invasion to be a significant threat to your well being, then get a gun, or alarm system, or secure locks, or whatever relieves your anxiety.
If you're not, then don't.
No details necessary.

The "details" might just help someone make a better informed decision on exactly what they plan to do, if anything.

Abster 09-28-2014 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 944806)
The online news has this headline under breaking news. It sounds like it could be related to this case.

Man suspected in sex assault of woman in her 70’s


I owe everyone an apology. I was skeptical because some very valid sources were thinking she was confused. I am sorry.

Yep...so many are too quick to judge or criticize others who disagree with them. I am SOOO happy I'm only here part time.

CFrance 09-28-2014 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Abster (Post 945357)
Yep...so many are too quick to judge or criticize others who disagree with them. I am SOOO happy I'm only here part time.

Not sure what exactly you mean by your statement. Are you accusing everyone here of being too quick to judge or criticize? The fact that you are only here part time... how does that help? And what do you mean by "here"? TV? TOTV?

JB in TV 09-28-2014 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Birdie Dreamer (Post 944960)
We can debate about the Daily Sun all we want. I think we need to consider that law enforcement is keeping details confidential as they complete their investigation in this case. Otherwise it would have been published in other news sources. Seems a bit unfair to place all the blame on TDS in this case.

I'm late to this discussion, but I agree with your last sentence, to a point. The Daily Sun could have reported that there was a break in, and state that details are being withheld pending the outcome of the law enforcement investigation. Simple, and straight forward, yes?

Cajulian 09-28-2014 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bimmertl (Post 929375)
Yup, don't fool with armed old people who take the responsibility seriously!

Fearing intruder, Tampa grandmother shoots grandson, 7

Nothing like picking isolated, singular incidents to prove your point!!! Obviously this one was a mistake and a near tragedy. The boy is recovering.

Many major studies throughout the U.S. Continue to highlight, that as Concealed Carry Permits go up in every State, that violent crime (other than gang related) has continued to be reduced. Even Illinois reported a 26% reduction in violent crime this past year (not including Chicago gang related killings).

kittygilchrist 09-28-2014 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by kittygilchrist (Post 929381)
What I have told you today is the woman's history of what happened, which agrees with many of the earliest reports in the prior thread that came from Duval residents. Everyone has to make their own mind up what they want to believe.

We know what the media said. I reported what the woman said to a visitor to the hospital, who also reported that the woman had bruising, swelling and lacerations on her body.

That is all I know. Bottom line for me with these incidents is that the illusion of safety is sustained by the developer's control of media, efficiency of law enforcement is hindered by our spanning three counties and no central police force, and that in the absence of representative government, no one cares what I think.

Barefoot 09-29-2014 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by JB in TV (Post 945378)
The Daily Sun could have reported that there was a break in, and state that details are being withheld pending the outcome of the law enforcement investigation. Simple, and straight forward, yes?

Simple, yes.
But perhaps The Daily Sun was unable to verify that there was a break-in.

MoeVonB61 09-30-2014 08:53 AM

DITTO!! :)...But it is a great lifestyle here - if they communicated crimes appropriately we would all be better prepared with security, guns, automatic locking doors or whatever way we deem necessary.....INCLUDING organizing Local Crime Watches in our Villages....

yabbadu 09-30-2014 10:04 AM

Wish the moderator would close this!

Barefoot 09-30-2014 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by yabbadu (Post 946108)
Wish the moderator would close this!

There is a way to unsubscribe from a thread.
Go to "thread tools" and push the "unsubscribe" button.

Abster 10-02-2014 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 945375)
Not sure what exactly you mean by your statement. Are you accusing everyone here of being too quick to judge or criticize? The fact that you are only here part time... how does that help? And what do you mean by "here"? TV? TOTV?

No...I'm not accusing everyone. However, the same people refuse to allow or respect others' opinions/ideas. We own a place here but our primary residence is Central Florida oceanfront. What a difference. Maybe because it's a mix of ages - not all old, crotchety, close minded people.

mixsonci 10-02-2014 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Abster (Post 947042)
No...I'm not accusing everyone. However, the same people refuse to allow or respect others' opinions/ideas. We own a place here but our primary residence is Central Florida oceanfront. What a difference. Maybe because it's a mix of ages - not all old, crotchety, close minded people.

Speaking of crotchety?


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