Originally Posted by Taj44 (Post 376553)

I agree - the POA is probably a good start. The VHA is generally useless.

Originally Posted by cabo35 (Post 376544)

OK.....I'll play.

You said, "To refer to someone who's posts delve into the "what ifs" if the IRS prevails, and calls the poster "sinister" and unbalanced seems pretty insulting to me."

We must have gone to two different schools together as our respective command and understanding of the King's English differs greatly. It is quite evident that my use of "sinister" was a modifier for the word "design." Further compounding your misrepresentation, is your apparent selective disregard of context. The reference itself was part of an either/or theoretical choice left to the imagination of the reader.

Your interpretation of "unbalanced" is equally misrepresented or misinterpreted by 'accident or design', as my use of the word clearly modified the word "suppositions" and referred specifically to the "balance" of emphasis on the negative as opposed to the positive. It is an impossible stretch to link the phrase to any person being unbalanced.

You said, "Is it possible we can discuss without the petty name calling?" What name calling are you referring to?

I welcome cerebral challenges but distortions of factual representations compromise and degrade whatever valid arguments you may have. It may surprise you to know I have even agreed with you on some points. I view those with opposing views as loyal opposition with the best interests of The Villages at the core of their beliefs. We just have vastly different perspectives on how to achieve those interests.

By the way.... I would love to hear your characterization of "morseiphiles" and its author given your disdain for name calling.

Hey, Rube...........be assured I am neither frustrated or angry. It's not in my nature. I will not deny I enjoy a good debate. While I often have a divergence of opinion with your views, you have made some good points and I enjoy most of our exchanges.

BTW....My repeated reference to you as Hey, Rube is related to the meaning of the phrase. As you probably know circus workers used it as a call for help in a fight or threat from outsiders. Given are history of interaction and the most recent sensitivity to "name calling", I didn't want to distress you. :highfive:

Originally Posted by Advogado (Post 376560)

Thanks, but I decline the nomination. As I recall Wagon Train, the scout usually ended up on the receiving end of a whole bunch of arrows, and that has been happening to me here.

Originally Posted by cabo35 (Post 376544)

OK.....I'll play.

You said, "To refer to someone who's posts delve into the "what ifs" if the IRS prevails, and calls the poster "sinister" and unbalanced seems pretty insulting to me."

We must have gone to two different schools together as our respective command and understanding of the King's English differs greatly. It is quite evident that my use of "sinister" was a modifier for the word "design." Further compounding your misrepresentation, is your apparent selective disregard of context. The reference itself was part of an either/or theoretical choice left to the imagination of the reader.

Your interpretation of "unbalanced" is equally misrepresented or misinterpreted by 'accident or design', as my use of the word clearly modified the word "suppositions" and referred specifically to the "balance" of emphasis on the negative as opposed to the positive. It is an impossible stretch to link the phrase to any person being unbalanced.

You said, "Is it possible we can discuss without the petty name calling?" What name calling are you referring to?

[B]I welcome cerebral challenges but distortions of factual representations compromise and degrade whatever valid arguments you may have[/B]. It may surprise you to know I have even agreed with you on some points. I view those with opposing views as loyal opposition with the best interests of The Villages at the core of their beliefs. We just have vastly different perspectives on how to achieve those interests.

By the way.... I would love to hear your characterization of "morseiphiles" and its author given your disdain for name calling.

Hey, Rube...........be assured I am neither frustrated or angry. It's not in my nature. I will not deny I enjoy a good debate. While I often have a divergence of opinion with your views, you have made some good points and I enjoy most of our exchanges.

BTW....My repeated reference to you as Hey, Rube is related to the meaning of the phrase. As you probably know circus workers used it as a call for help in a fight or threat from outsiders. Given are history of interaction and the most recent sensitivity to "name calling", I didn't want to distress you. :highfive:

Originally Posted by Advogado (Post 376432)

It would be nice if, instead of just telling me that I have a lousy attitude, you would educate me by telling me exactly where my analysis is wrong. The IRS investigation is indeed complicated. But I think that it behooves residents to try to understand basically what is going on and has gone on rather than to just pretend that the potential for some serious problems does not exist.

Incidentally, the "Engineer's Report" referred to in the Daily Sun article that provoked my first post in this thread still has not appeared in the districtgov.org website. Let's hope it does soon since it will probably throw some much-needed light on the latest developments in this saga.

Originally Posted by villagegolfer (Post 376573)

Do not think you will see it.

Originally Posted by hforward (Post 376691)

As my wife and I were following the Lewis and Clark trail on one of our 4 7k mile Harley trips. I sure did think of those covered wagons. As we crested Peaks in snow spitting temperatures down horrific descents to the warmth below or should I say desert,

Yea I thought I was pretty cool or crazy for taking two wheels from Syracuse to Astoria Oregon and back.

Made me humble, I felt respect for those that went before us years ago! Covered Wagons uhh daaa had no ABS Stability Control AC Heater lumbar support seats or four wheel Disc Power Brakes!

Of course in another perspective here we are just a posting away and they never did get a chance to decide retirement, most were all dead! As my Dr's look me over for my complaints I have already lived longer than most settlers who were dead from something by age 15-30! Their idea of a village was sure different that ours today.

So This February we will be down to start the bleeding, I mean building process.

And yes I am disappointed that Sales has no problem with a take it or leave it on you home, lot , Bonds Taxes Fees on and on and on! But not a peep on a IRS investigations. Not even a " Don't worry you will be just fine about it atta boy!

So I leave all you all tonight with a statement that was given to me by a now happily retired mentor teacher of mine.

Some of you may have read or heard this. I find it fitting after deciding what to do about moving to a place that we have found very comfortable. Doesn't mean this IRS thing does not make me question the future?

Ignorance can be fixed with Education
However Stupidity takes GREAT SALESMANSHIP!

Good night and thanks for your “Village" education and support.

Herv

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 376724)

Throughout the villages the "water features" on the planning maps say
"May or may not hold water".

Just because it isn't pointed out, or brought up about the IRS issue, doesn't mean that the developer and the agents representing the developer are unethical.

The IRS drama may or may not hold water.

Enjoy every day in The Villages.

Originally Posted by JimJoe (Post 376731)

Gracie: I agree with you completely but I still ask my question.
If they notify you that the water features "may or may not hold water", why not notify you of the IRS issue? Villagers and wannabees have a right to know the facts, so they can make informed decisions.

Originally Posted by The Shadow (Post 376733)

Well this proves one thing, you type faster than I do in the early morning.

Originally Posted by JimJoe (Post 376731)

Gracie: I agree with you completely but I still ask my question.
If they notify you that the water features "may or may not hold water", why not notify you of the IRS issue? Villagers and wannabees have a right to know the facts, so they can make informed decisions.