My deed restriction document says that sounds must be kept at a "moderate" level from 10 pm until 1 hour before daylight. I'm sure that everyone else must know what a moderate level is. But, I don't.

Since normal conversation is 60db and shouting in ones ear is 110db I would assume moderate would be closer to normal conversation.

Depending on your neighbors you might be afforded the opportunity to test the restrictions.

One is not "getting caught" doing something sneaky, if the thing they're doing is in plain sight and they're not trying to hide it. If the concensus of the neighborhood is "this is cute, we're okay with it, we have no problem with it, and it's acceptable" then who are you, who lives in a whole other neighborhood, to come to their neighborhood just so that you have an excuse to "turn them in?" You don't live there, it's none of your business.

This, exactly.

If the neighbors don't have a problem with it, then it's not a problem.

We should remember that this is a rule, not a law, and while even laws can be changed, changing rules is a much less demanding process. This is our community, and if the majority believe this or any rule should be changed, they should work to have that done. If we spent the same time and energy initiating change as we do complaining about the rule or the rule breakers or the rule breaker reporters, on changing things, we might be surprised what would happen. Most of these things are governed by bodies of elected officials...they may or may not read TOTV.

It's guaranteed that "they" read TOTV.

I started a thread a couple of months after joining about "faded/peeling/ugly" street signs...with a lot of posts saying I was just imagining them. :ohdear:

So I went out and took photos. :D

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...20/index4.html<Poke Here

Within a couple of weeks, a whole bunch of the ones I took photos of...were replaced.


I don't believe in... that kind of 'coincidence.' :ho:

The street signs were discussed on here many months ago and a year ago. And two years ago. The sun beats the heck out of all painted surfaces.

It's not coincidence, it's called scheduled maintenance. Your elected officials don't need to read ToTV to be aware of what they, just like you and everyone else, can see.

1. So you believe it was just pure coincidence that so many of these exact signs, which had obviously taken years to become so bad, were replaced on a pre-planned maintenance cycle...so quickly after the thread?

2. Please read the entire linked thread and its posts, so you can read for yourself that...not "everyone else could see them."


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Hum.....offending ornament.....Pretty much anything nowadays offends someone.

Enforcement of the rules is necessary to keeping this community clean and neat. I personally hate all the junk people put out in front. Keep it in your backyard, if it allowed and follow the rules. Simple.

I fully agree.

haha All of you have been trolled and the funny thing is it was about trolls. You can almost hear the sucking sound of you all being pulled in lol.
Original poster stirs the pot, everyone circles around to help, then the original poster backs out and says 'he was asking for a friend'.
TheTruth had the only post worth reading just about when he said. "FOR ALL OF YOU-think is it really important? Are YOU as perfect as you THINK YOU ARE? If, you wish to look for problems you will surely be able to find them."
If you claim to be sticklers for all the rules... would you not complain and say it was just if you were fined for speeding 2 miles an hour over, how about so much as touching the double yellow?
It's all fun and games until you're the target. Get a life folks, live and let live. You're waaay too busy giving old people like me and TheTruth a bad name.

Rules are Rules are Rules..We all signed on the .......................... line

I’d like it if they changed the rules so only if you live in that particular village you can call in a complaint. If you call in you do have to give your name and address, but that name and address would be confidential.

When moving our stuff down from up north a garden art piece was left in the front yard. A few days later I went to move it into the back and the neighbors asked me not to, they like seeing it when they walked in the morning. A few months later I get the call that the metal statue was not allowed in the front, so I moved it to where I intended it to be originally, in the back where I can see it while sitting on the lanai. However, I know the neighbors weren’t the ones calling it in, they liked it.

These are what would be considered yard ornaments. In the front yard. Village of Summerhill. Bad Request A metal pelican!
This one here uses a park bench AS a lawn ornament - can't sit on it, because it's holding potted plants. And then there's that tipped-over decorative, ornamental planter vomiting up white rocks... Bad Request

Now, I know CYVs are allowed to not have grass. But are they allowed to have garden or yard ornaments? Because this guy in Sanibel has multiple violations! They look terrific too, don't you think? Bad Request

More garden critters right there in the front for everyone to be offended by, this time in Pine Ridge Bad Request

These homes are ALL listed for sale on the OFFICIAL Villages Homefinder website. It looks to me that The Villages has no problem at all with these kinds of decorative touches. If they did, they would have made the owners remove them before using these pictures to advertise the homes for sale, don'tya think?

Maybe the rules should be changed. Or maybe people need to stop turning each other in for such trivial and trite infractions that don't actually violate the SPIRIT of the rules at all, but rather, violate the vague, non-specific, non-defined words.

Edited to add: those "bad request" links are to the actual photos, on the official website. They linked me there just fine when I clicked them, should work for you too.

That is just the villages cop out to avoid enforcing the rules.

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Neighborhood Watch can not do anything. It is not their job. Their job is to open and close the pools and clean up dead animals on the streets. They only watch and are not trained to do anything other than simply just ride around. If called upon they can direct traffic when there is an accident, but only until law enforcement gets on the scene. After that they have to leave.

Not me

The ARC, (Architectural Review Committee) here reviews and allows some decorations. If only we all had a good sense of what is lovely, there would not be a problem with expressing oneself in yard art. I absolutely support deed restrictions and I would and have made a call. When we returned to our brand new home in Hadley, many years ago, we found a neighbor had moved in and had placed upwards of a dozen THINGS in their front yard. I called. They went away. They didn't seem trivial and trite to me.

Deed restrictions about yard art protect the value of your home and neighborhood and area.

Complain all you like The Villages does not follow up on any deed restriction complaint. They send out letters and more letters and even more. If the offender just refuses to comply that's the end of it. In my courtyard villa neighborhood try living beside a person that has erected trailer park reflectors on 2 foot stakes surrounding the front yard every 4 ft. Since this person is on a corner lot there on the side of the road also. Its been this way for 2 years now.

There are penalties that are adding up that will be a burden when the property is put up for sale. OR they have not been reported. I kind of feel they have though.

VCDD Architectural Review

Village Community Development Districts

Not only the lien against the property but as a neighbor found out, it impacts their credit rating.

Just a couple of years ago deed compliance forced a house remove an out of compliance extension to a patio... it had been out of compliance for 10 or so years before someone complained about it. The do take action.

If someone doesnt report you the "violations" remain in the yard. We got reported for a heron statue. The compliance person had to.pass several other homes with violating lawn ornaments to get to our home. So.if you have nice neighbors you can put anything in your yard and if you have cranky neighbors you get reported. If the rules apply to everyone then the villages should have someone monitoring this so that all residents have to go by the same rules and it is not dependent on whether you have cranky neighbors. So we took our heron down while our neighbors with a water fall ornament, statues and lawn animals were left alone. The reporting system needs to be revised.

IMHO, it's not about cranky neighbors.
It's about the deed restrictions you agreed to when you bought a home in The Villages.
Caram, it might be that even one nice neighbor didn't love your heron statue.

The pumpkin was plain/no face, but the historic district doesn't prohibit yard ornaments or impose a time limit for seasonal decorations. I was surprised the complaint was even taken by Community Standards, to be honest.

I have no quarrel with deed restrictions or the current reporting system in general, but do think the enforcement folks should be able to submit their own complaints if they see infractions when they're out and about. Ignoring them seems oddly arbitrary to me.

I think there is a legal principle that, if you want to enforce a restriction, you need to be consistent and hold everyone to the same standard. It appears that The Villages is ignoring that principle. Just because someone complains doesn't give The Villages the right to enforce a rule, unless they are enforcing it for everyone. Apparently, they are hoping that no one will take them to court because they would probably lose. The Villages are loaded with lawn ornaments that do not comply with the rules. The enforcement process is flawed.

It could take years for them to go around and find and report all violations "equally." While I agree 100% with the "rules" (I signed the papers) I would hate for any official agency to report every infraction they ever see as small as they may be. Let the chips fall where they may but let's not even suggest any single official agency check every single home for every visible infraction. While it might be "fair" it would be frightening.

No deed restriction for lawn ornaments in my area and that's whats so great about living in the Lady Lake part of The Villages.

It seems that some insist that "rules are rules" and not to be broken. On the other hand, those same folks are frequently suggesting that "LAWS" can be ignored. Many on here think that illegally invading our borders is NOT an offense, speeding through stop signs in their golf carts, exceeding the 20mph limit imposed by the state related to golf cart speed, passing on a solid yellow line, etc. are just guides and not to be taken seriously. I suggest that only those that have never broken a law or "RULE" proceed to throw stones. But beware, if you are going to throw stones you probably should open your window first, or spotlight your own blemishes. Yes, rules are rules. Rules are guides or standards that can be flexible. I believe in rules also, but only if a violation of such rules is offending a majority. If the community is fine with lawn ornaments, then why is someone else policing that neighborhood. Personally, I enjoy the steel or plaster birds in nicely landscaped yards. Technically, those little dog signs showing a dog pooping on a yard are violations but they don't bother me either. My restrictions say that only a rock or pot is allowed. Does that mean that my solar lights are violations? I am not really asking you, because I do not really care. I drive past one nicely taken care of lawn on my home and they have two very small gnomes, one in their landscaping and one under their eve. The violation does not bother me because I find it interesting and not at all boring. One person's taste is another's spoiled milk. If I am one to violate the rules and my neighbors complain, I will change the offending practice. If I am called out for breaking a rule, I will not fight it if it is a legitimate rule. I agreed to the rules here and will live by them. However, do not presume to act like someone is breaking a statutory law when these are merely civil deed restrictions.
Having a garden gnome or a bird statue does not equate to or imply that a rusted out car on cinder blocks is imminent. Some folks just need something to complain about. We are living in one of the best communities in America and should be celebrating, not condemning and lynching.
This is just my opinion. If opinions did not matter, we would not need 9 justices on the Supreme Court to give their differing opinions on their take on Constitutional Law. We would only need one judge, right?

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Didnt know that about the historic district. Thanks.

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That is the problem with the Villages system. It is inconsistent in its enforcement of the rules. The Villages is loaded with lawn ornaments. Bird and other statues are everywhere. It seems unfair that if a person has one ornament next to their house and someone complains then they have to remove it, yet their neighbor could have three bird statues in their front yard, but since no one complained The Villages drives right past that house. This is a very unfair system.

As The Villages grew, The developers learned and I think made things better.

The Villages enforces ONLY when someone complains. I personally think it is fine to complain. Some see it as a civic duty.

Be assured that The Villages Inc. have consulted good lawyers and all is clearly defined and enforceable.

It can turn in to a witch hunt as it pits neighbor against neighbor. The fact that the complaintant stays anonymous makes it worse. Just because The Villages has done this in the past doesn’t make it right. Think about it, if someone complains about your ceramic donkey and you have to remove it, what stops you from then complaining about the 31 houses in your immediate neighborhood that have birds in their front yard?