Lawn ornament trolls

» Site Navigation
Home Page The Villages Maps The Villages Activities The Villages Clubs The Villages Book Healthcare Rentals Real Estate Section Classified Section The Villages Directory Home Improvement Site Guidelines Advertising Info Register Now Video Tutorials Frequently Asked Questions
» Newsletter Signup
» Premium Tower
» Advertisements
» Trending News
» Tower Sponsors




















» Premium Sponsors
» Banner Sponsors
» Advertisements
Closed Thread
Thread Tools
  #31  
Old 02-02-2019, 11:08 PM
tagjr1 tagjr1 is offline
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 124
Thanks: 0
Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Garywt View Post
I just received my paperwork today, did not have to sign the restriction paperwork, not sure if you have to sign it at the closing. It clearly says lawn ornaments and not yard ornaments which means nothing on the grass. As far as where the bushes and mulch are is not lawn as there is no grass.
Good luck with your misguided logic!
  #32  
Old 02-02-2019, 11:21 PM
Garywt Garywt is offline
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 139
Thanks: 0
Thanked 14 Times in 8 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tagjr1 View Post
Good luck with your misguided logic!
?? It is just what I read.
  #33  
Old 02-03-2019, 06:14 AM
roob1 roob1 is online now
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 138
Thanks: 13
Thanked 41 Times in 17 Posts
Default

Many people turn the focus on the persons who report violations. The violator (not the reporter) creates a potential problem when he violates the rules.

Narcissists blame others, as well as feel a highly increased sense of entitlement, i.e. "I am entitled to put up a lawn ornament, and if I get caught, you are to blame for turning me in".

Violators might want to consider that they are to blame. They agree to follow the rules when they buy. Then they decide to ignore them. So who is really to blame when one "gets caught"? Could it be the one who feels "entitled" to do as he pleases?





Quote:
Originally Posted by Jazuela View Post
So it wasn't even the people IN the neighborhood doing the complaining? Wow. That's pretty pathetic. If their lives are so miserable that they have to create problems where none exist, then they need to just find a nice cave to move into, where nothing can bother them ever again.

I get that rules are rules. I also get that this seems to be a 'if it ain't broke, don't whine about it' situation, where minor infractions are overlooked as long as the neighborhood is okay with it and no one complains. If it gets to be more than a minor infraction, or becomes more prevalent in the neighborhood, someone will complain, and it'll be dealt with then. But there's no reason to go to other parts of The Villages just so you can point out what's wrong with THOSE houses THERE - unless you just really get a sick twisted kind of kick out of minding everyone else's business.

Last edited by roob1; 02-03-2019 at 06:34 AM.
  #34  
Old 02-03-2019, 07:18 AM
fw102807
Guest
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Garywt View Post
?? It is just what I read.
We see many beautiful yard decorations everywhere we go. I am not saying that you are right or wrong about this but I think it would be worth a call to Community standards to clarify.
  #35  
Old 02-03-2019, 08:41 AM
retiredguy123 retiredguy123 is online now
Sage
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 4,386
Thanks: 234
Thanked 2,058 Times in 786 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tagjr1 View Post
Good luck with your misguided logic!
It doesn't sound misguided to me. The Pine Ridge document says lawn ornaments are prohibited, but it doesn't say anything about yard ornaments.
  #36  
Old 02-03-2019, 09:23 AM
mulligan mulligan is offline
Sage
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 2,794
Thanks: 4
Thanked 128 Times in 59 Posts
Default

If you can see it and it's not a typical holiday decoration, you've violated the spirit of the rule. The second grade responses on here amaze me.
__________________
........American by birth....Union by choice
  #37  
Old 02-03-2019, 10:39 AM
retiredguy123 retiredguy123 is online now
Sage
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 4,386
Thanks: 234
Thanked 2,058 Times in 786 Posts
Default

I think that people just have different opinions. And, the deed restriction document is extremely vague and inadequate regarding "ornaments". It is even more inadequate in addressing noise violations, which are more important to me.
  #38  
Old 02-03-2019, 11:28 AM
queasy27 queasy27 is offline
Veteran member
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 829
Thanks: 363
Thanked 266 Times in 123 Posts
Default

Someone turned me in for leaving a plain orange plastic pumpkin over my lamppost light for months. I thought it was cute and helped identify my house at night.

The Community Standards person came by twice and left a notice of violation, which I ignored. The third time I was home and showed him my deed restriction, which did not specifically prohibit it. He claimed there was a Villages-wide "matrix" that applied to everyone. Sir, you are incorrect.

I had to call Community Standards twice, but victory was ultimately mine. I left the thing up for another year or so until I moved.*


* Out of the historic district.
  #39  
Old 02-03-2019, 11:29 AM
Bogie Shooter Bogie Shooter is offline
Sage
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 14,371
Thanks: 2
Thanked 989 Times in 498 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by retiredguy123 View Post
I think that people just have different opinions. And, the deed restriction document is extremely vague and inadequate regarding "ornaments". It is even more inadequate in addressing noise violations, which are more important to me.
Isn't noise a county thing?
  #40  
Old 02-03-2019, 11:57 AM
Chi-Town's Avatar
Chi-Town Chi-Town is offline
Sage
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 6,358
Thanks: 13
Thanked 306 Times in 168 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by queasy27 View Post
Someone turned me in for leaving a plain orange plastic pumpkin over my lamppost light for months. I thought it was cute and helped identify my house at night.

The Community Standards person came by twice and left a notice of violation, which I ignored. The third time I was home and showed him my deed restriction, which did not specifically prohibit it. He claimed there was a Villages-wide "matrix" that applied to everyone. Sir, you are incorrect.

I had to call Community Standards twice, but victory was ultimately mine. I left the thing up for another year or so until I moved.*


* Out of the historic district.
Was it plain or have a face? A face would be considered a seasonal Halloween decoration. A truly plain one would be a tough call.The Villages Florida

Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
  #41  
Old 02-03-2019, 01:08 PM
retiredguy123 retiredguy123 is online now
Sage
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 4,386
Thanks: 234
Thanked 2,058 Times in 786 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter View Post
Isn't noise a county thing?
My deed restriction document says that sounds must be kept at a "moderate" level from 10 pm until 1 hour before daylight. I'm sure that everyone else must know what a moderate level is. But, I don't.
  #42  
Old 02-03-2019, 01:37 PM
JoMar JoMar is offline
Sage
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 3,840
Thanks: 10
Thanked 1,123 Times in 426 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by retiredguy123 View Post
My deed restriction document says that sounds must be kept at a "moderate" level from 10 pm until 1 hour before daylight. I'm sure that everyone else must know what a moderate level is. But, I don't.
Since normal conversation is 60db and shouting in ones ear is 110db I would assume moderate would be closer to normal conversation.
__________________
No one believes the truth when the lie is more interesting

Berks County Pennsylvania
  #43  
Old 02-03-2019, 01:40 PM
JoMar JoMar is offline
Sage
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 3,840
Thanks: 10
Thanked 1,123 Times in 426 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by retiredguy123 View Post
It doesn't sound misguided to me. The Pine Ridge document says lawn ornaments are prohibited, but it doesn't say anything about yard ornaments.
Depending on your neighbors you might be afforded the opportunity to test the restrictions.
__________________
No one believes the truth when the lie is more interesting

Berks County Pennsylvania
  #44  
Old 02-03-2019, 01:42 PM
OrangeBlossomBaby OrangeBlossomBaby is offline
Sage
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 3,038
Thanks: 1,894
Thanked 2,148 Times in 657 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by roob1 View Post
Many people turn the focus on the persons who report violations. The violator (not the reporter) creates a potential problem when he violates the rules.

Narcissists blame others, as well as feel a highly increased sense of entitlement, i.e. "I am entitled to put up a lawn ornament, and if I get caught, you are to blame for turning me in".

Violators might want to consider that they are to blame. They agree to follow the rules when they buy. Then they decide to ignore them. So who is really to blame when one "gets caught"? Could it be the one who feels "entitled" to do as he pleases?
One is not "getting caught" doing something sneaky, if the thing they're doing is in plain sight and they're not trying to hide it. If the concensus of the neighborhood is "this is cute, we're okay with it, we have no problem with it, and it's acceptable" then who are you, who lives in a whole other neighborhood, to come to their neighborhood just so that you have an excuse to "turn them in?" You don't live there, it's none of your business.
  #45  
Old 02-03-2019, 01:44 PM
OrangeBlossomBaby OrangeBlossomBaby is offline
Sage
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 3,038
Thanks: 1,894
Thanked 2,148 Times in 657 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JoMar View Post
Depending on your neighbors you might be afforded the opportunity to test the restrictions.
This, exactly.

If the neighbors don't have a problem with it, then it's not a problem.
Closed Thread

Tags
restrictions, eves, deed, district, trolls

Thread Tools

You are viewing a new design of the TOTV site. Click here to revert to the old version.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:32 AM.