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golfing eagles 03-15-2024 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy and Ed (Post 2311215)
Since The Villages is a private community and all ponds , etc are owned by The Villages why is there any issue with eradicating the problem here?? IMHO safety of the humans and DOMESTIC animals living here should be top priority. Not the survival of a cold blooded amphibian creature that attacks when not provoked. Blaming the victim as not having enough sense to be constantly on guard for being attacked while enjoying what should be a relatively safe environment????

There are almost ZERO unprovoked gator attacks. Even when male gators are more aggressive during mating season, they have little interest in humans----UNLESS you present food, or some other idiots have been feeding them, in which case they learn to associate people with food. In general, they are far more afraid of people that vice versa. Would you retrieve that golf ball my friend hit? No problem, that gator was in the water in 1/2 second. Would you slap a 9 footer's tail like Cody Gribble did at Bay Hill---no way!!!

Two Bills 03-15-2024 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy and Ed (Post 2311215)
Since The Villages is a private community and all ponds , etc are owned by The Villages why is there any issue with eradicating the problem here?? IMHO safety of the humans and DOMESTIC animals living here should be top priority. Not the survival of a cold blooded amphibian creature that attacks when not provoked. Blaming the victim as not having enough sense to be constantly on guard for being attacked while enjoying what should be a relatively safe environment????

Build a wall around TV?
Netting overhead to guard against flying predators?
Shoot all predatory wild life within TV?
Incidents of gator or any wildlife attack is probably the lowest cause of death and injury of all incidents within TV.
You are more likely to be attacked by someone's pet than roaming wild animals.
TV is a safe an environment as any, and safer than most, but the minimal wildlife danger can be mitigated with basic common sense, not some knee-jerk reaction to something that happened elsewhere.

crash 03-15-2024 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by PugMom (Post 2310808)
i feel for this guy, really, but who in their right mind fishes on the edge of a pond in Fl>? i would expect exactly that. poor gator was in his home, doing what gators do:shrug:

Every fisherman in the freshwater fishing club fishes in Florida. All the people fishing the stock ponds in the Villages.

Suppose you are not in your right mind if you go into the ocean more shark attacks than gators biting fisherman.

Sandy and Ed 03-15-2024 06:17 AM

Bottom line: Establishments, organizations and, yes, governments (etc) that cater to the masses (which include children or other at-risk folks) should do all they can to insure the environment is safe. That includes safe from bombs, fire, disease, crime, alien attacks, wild predatory animals, zombies, etc. Why do we keep putting the responsibility on to each person instead? “They should know better,etc”. “They” pay, vote for and expect the people at the top to insure safety.

Sandy and Ed 03-15-2024 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by defrey12 (Post 2311224)
You’re really not listening, are you? If you’re near a pond, with or without “Fluffy”, you’re essentially provoking them. They feed along the water’s edge.

But you wouldn’t be provoking them if they were not there would you?? YOU are not listening: more bluntly stated - eradicate, kill or otherwise remove every alligator within The Villages

golfing eagles 03-15-2024 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy and Ed (Post 2311229)
Bottom line: Establishments, organizations and, yes, governments (etc) that cater to the masses (which include children or other at-risk folks) should do all they can to insure the environment is safe. That includes safe from bombs, fire, disease, crime, alien attacks, wild predatory animals, zombies, etc. Why do we keep putting the responsibility on to each person instead? “They should know better,etc”. “They” pay, vote for and expect the people at the top to insure safety.

OK, I get it. Another proponent of the Orwellian nightmare. Yes, "the government" will keep us safe. There was no significant crime in Oceania. The only individual responsibility was unquestioning loyalty and obedience to the state. No thanks, I'll take my chances with the gators (and especially the zombies:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::)

Sandy and Ed 03-15-2024 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2311226)
Build a wall around TV?
Netting overhead to guard against flying predators?
Shoot all predatory wild life within TV?
Incidents of gator or any wildlife attack is probably the lowest cause of death and injury of all incidents within TV.
You are more likely to be attacked by someone's pet than roaming wild animals.
TV is a safe an environment as any, and safer than most, but the minimal wildlife danger can be mitigated with basic common sense, not some knee-jerk reaction to something that happened elsewhere.

Again, another over the top black or white comment. No don’t kill all wild creatures on the planet or in The Villages. Leave the birds in the air. Let the snakes exist. Even those annual love bugs. Let’s just get rid of the alligators from our over 55 retirement community. OK. Mike drop!!!

Sandy and Ed 03-15-2024 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2311233)
OK, I get it. Another proponent of the Orwellian nightmare. Yes, "the government" will keep us safe. There was no significant crime in Oceania. The only individual responsibility was unquestioning loyalty and obedience to the state. No thanks, I'll take my chances with the gators (and especially the zombies:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::)

I give up. Got better things to do. Here’s your sign.

golfing eagles 03-15-2024 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy and Ed (Post 2311235)
Again, another over the top black or white comment. No don’t kill all wild creatures on the planet or in The Villages. Leave the birds in the air. Let the snakes exist. Even those annual love bugs. Let’s just get rid of the alligators from our over 55 retirement community. OK. Mike drop!!!

Even the venomous snakes that can kill you???? Kind of discriminatory, don't you think????? (pick the mike up again)

Two Bills 03-15-2024 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy and Ed (Post 2311229)
Bottom line: Establishments, organizations and, yes, governments (etc) that cater to the masses (which include children or other at-risk folks) should do all they can to insure the environment is safe. That includes safe from bombs, fire, disease, crime, alien attacks, wild predatory animals, zombies, etc. Why do we keep putting the responsibility on to each person instead? “They should know better,etc”. “They” pay, vote for and expect the people at the top to insure safety.

It's called personal responsibility.
It is a dying personal application that was inherent in most people until everything became someone else's fault.
This nanny state you advocate is the reason overdeveloped countries are dying from within.
People are so soft and reliant on being herded, told what is good for them, that they have nearly lost all personal means of self survival!.
How some people actually reach old age, in many cases, absolutely amazes me!

Shipping up to Boston 03-15-2024 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy and Ed (Post 2311222)
Let’s not go overboard here! No don’t kill every alligator in the world to the point of extinction. Let’s get some gray area in here. Not black and white. Let’s just prevent alligators from inhabiting an over 55 retirement community where most folks averaging in their mid 69’s would like to relax and enjoy the idyllic lifestyle advertised and for which they pay without worrying about being eaten by a cold blooded predatory creature or having their companion domesticated pets eaten. Now doesn’t that sound more tempered?

Please explain where you have seen this model? To remove an animal from their habitat that multiplies to the millions? I suggest late posters do their due diligence and read ALL prior posts. You're on their land. You need to adapt...not them.

Desiderata 03-15-2024 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy and Ed (Post 2311222)
Let’s not go overboard here! No don’t kill every alligator in the world to the point of extinction. Let’s get some gray area in here. Not black and white. Let’s just prevent alligators from inhabiting an over 55 retirement community where most folks averaging in their mid 69’s would like to relax and enjoy the idyllic lifestyle advertised and for which they pay without worrying about being eaten by a cold blooded predatory creature or having their companion domesticated pets eaten. Now doesn’t that sound more tempered?

More tempered, yes, but still unrealistic and unnecessary. How many gator attacks have you ever heard of in The Villages?

Gunny2403 03-15-2024 07:01 AM

I routinely watch golfers walk past the RED stakes to a pond ( behind my house ), take out a ball retriever and churn the water trying to get a golf ball. I usually yell and tell them the pond has a gator in it. They say thanks and keep doing it. Humans are not very smart when it comes to this.

Shipping up to Boston 03-15-2024 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Desiderata (Post 2311257)
More tempered, yes, but still unrealistic and unnecessary. How many gator attacks have you ever heard of in The Villages?

I'm a hack so there is no body of water or wooded area that I'm gonna risk personal safety over retrieving my Titleist. Unless you're a tour player, take the penalty. Gators, unarmed, are undefeated!

golfing eagles 03-15-2024 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Gunny2403 (Post 2311266)
I routinely watch golfers walk past the RED stakes to a pond ( behind my house ), take out a ball retriever and churn the water trying to get a golf ball. I usually yell and tell them the pond has a gator in it. They say thanks and keep doing it. Humans are not very smart when it comes to this.

Again, except in unusual circumstances, the gator has no interest in the golfer or his ball. But it is a good idea to scan the nearby water for gators before getting too close. If they are in a position to "attack" (which they probably won't do), they are pretty obvious.

When was the last time a golfer retrieving a golf ball was attacked by a gator???? Anyone????


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