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donsimson 12-02-2016 02:32 PM

Lifelong Learning College
 
What is Next? Will our clubs now be subject to the same attack? Will all the different activities be subject to ADA regulations and force our recreation activities to cease? I hope there is still some compassion from this group to not attack the rest of our retirement pleasures.

Lesdavenator 12-02-2016 02:43 PM

Very true.

JoMar 12-02-2016 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kstew43 (Post 1328416)
you might want to reread what you wrote....every american is entitled to be included in all aspects of life....even in TV.

The ADA is enforcing that. TV will just have to come up with a way to make this work for everyone...not just for some.....they will remedy this....i'm sure of it.... the lawsuit just lit a fire under there butts....

And there would be justification for making us pay for it....which I fully accept. After all, those that aren't included, in their opinion, expect those that are included write the check.

Kahuna32162 12-02-2016 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by donsimson (Post 1328543)
What is Next? Will our clubs now be subject to the same attack? Will all the different activities be subject to ADA regulations and force our recreation activities to cease? I hope there is still some compassion from this group to not attack the rest of our retirement pleasures.


Read the lawsuit, you can find the link on page 2 of this thread. The court denied their attemp to go after the Resident Lifestyle Groups.

IADCathy 12-02-2016 03:08 PM

It is obviously about this guy and those behind him wanting to make big money in a lawsuit. There are volunteer signers in The Villages... some will volunteer their services and some might charge. When a deaf young man joined the group I work with for high-functioning mentally handicapped we were able to get signers from an organization in The Villages, but eventually were not needed as our new club member was a lip-reader. The only priority for us was to make sure he could see us face-to-face as we ran activities. The LLC has ramps, and bathrooms, etc. for the handicapped. I attended a computer class where one student had a special service dog next to her the whole time. It is hard for me to believe that any amount of classes this man wanted to attend could not have had a signer. I could have gotten one for him! How much accommodation beyond that is a big question. Sounds to me like this individual should have retired where he came from so he could attend Gaulladet College in Washington, D.C. I am so angry to think that the action of this man and his followers could have dealt such a blow to our retirement community.

Lesdavenator 12-02-2016 03:08 PM

I haven't seen the lawsuit but it seemed as if they sued for money not reform. To sue a break even enterprise for money seems to indicate that what they wanted was to damage the program not improve things for other hearing impaired folks.
I hope I'm wrong -I fear there will be hard feelings about this for a long time, especially if this expands to include rec center clubs. Some may choose to find a new 'Friendliest Hometown'.
I do wish we would have known about the issue earlier. Someone amount the many thousands of affected residents would probably suggested a workable solution.

Chatbrat 12-02-2016 03:16 PM

And if you don't think they have Camp Villages in their sights, think again

dewilson58 12-02-2016 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Henryk (Post 1328431)
Plaintiffs are Louis Schwarz, Doris Schwarz, Janice Hickey, Thomas Hickey, Bernie Brown, Elizabeth Holst, Stephen Holst, Joanna Langlais, Francis Langlais, Robert Smart, Richard McElwain, Byron Zimmerman, Shirley Zimmerman, John Wilson, Charles Martin, Randall Walker, Evelyn Walker, Maureen Osgood, Carole Paul, Mary Kay Pickering, Andrew St. John, Karen Russell, Clarence Russell, Richard Woods, Linda Woods, Robert McDevitt, Lynn Stirling, Kathleen McElwain, Herbert Pickering, Barbara Achin, Ronald Achin, Diane St. John, Kenny Hynes, and Mary Wilson. See Third Amended Complaint at 1-2 (Doc. 93).

I don't know any of them.

Any on you on ToTV??? If so, speak up....why aren't you joining the conversation???

Villageswimmer 12-02-2016 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstew43 (Post 1328416)
you might want to reread what you wrote....every american is entitled to be included in all aspects of life....even in TV.

The ADA is enforcing that. TV will just have to come up with a way to make this work for everyone...not just for some.....they will remedy this....i'm sure of it.... the lawsuit just lit a fire under there butts....


Supposedly the lawsuit was filed eight years ago....a slow, smoldering fire.

Sort of strange this offended group didn't go public to get support from fellow Villagers? The injustices could have been righted. If motive is an attempt to get money, it would be to their benefit to keep it quiet. Just sayin...

trichard 12-02-2016 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by IADCathy (Post 1328557)
It is obviously about this guy and those behind him wanting to make big money in a lawsuit. There are volunteer signers in The Villages... some will volunteer their services and some might charge. When a deaf young man joined the group I work with for high-functioning mentally handicapped we were able to get signers from an organization in The Villages, but eventually were not needed as our new club member was a lip-reader. The only priority for us was to make sure he could see us face-to-face as we ran activities. The LLC has ramps, and bathrooms, etc. for the handicapped. I attended a computer class where one student had a special service dog next to her the whole time. It is hard for me to believe that any amount of classes this man wanted to attend could not have had a signer. I could have gotten one for him! How much accommodation beyond that is a big question. Sounds to me like this individual should have retired where he came from so he could attend Gaulladet College in Washington, D.C. I am so angry to think that the action of this man and his followers could have dealt such a blow to our retirement community.

I believe he is a graduate of Gaulladat College and lives on the golf course in the Village of Largo.

trichard 12-02-2016 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Villageswimmer (Post 1328567)
Supposedly the lawsuit was filed eight years ago....a slow, smoldering fire.

Sort of strange this offended group didn't go public to get support from fellow Villagers? The injustices could have been righted. If motive is an attempt to get money, it would be to their benefit to keep it quiet. Just sayin...

Looks like it may have been filed when the new administration took office in D.C.

phairmason 12-02-2016 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by trichard (Post 1328571)
Looks like it may have been filed when the new administration took office in D.C.

Absolutely immaterial. But since you mention it... it was filed BEFORE.

phairmason 12-02-2016 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by trichard (Post 1328570)
I believe he is a graduate of Gaulladat College and lives on the golf course in the Village of Largo.

There were thirty (30) plaintiffs. That's just the name of the one listed first.

phairmason 12-02-2016 03:52 PM

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outlaw 12-02-2016 04:00 PM

I didn't know the developer provided signers for the sales office.


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