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I put mine in my bedroom window. It faces a main road.
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If it isn't problem for you, you maybe shouldn't have bought in a community with reasonable strict guidelines and standards? |
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This is amusing for a couple of reasons. First is the asinine policy on the part of the powers-that-be in TV, of responding ONLY to the homeowner in question when a violation against that homeowner is reported. What that means is that you can be reported for having a little white cross next to the corner of your picket fence, barely visible from the street, but the guy next door could have a dozen of them stuck wherever in HIS lawn and unless a report is made about him, nothing will happen to him.
Second is that this is a HUGE can of worms for the powers-that-be. The original Villager claims that they can display the cross, and to make them remove it violates their rights under the Florida Religious Freedom Restoration Act, but crosses in yards are far from the only religious symbols displayed in yards. Statues of The Buddha, cement angels, BVM shrines (AKA "Our Lady of the Bathtub"), stars of David, etc. are all out there on display in various yards and can be seen by anyone driving through the various neighborhoods. This case is apparently currently on appeal after a local judge ruled against the couple with the cross. So--if this couple eventually wins, what does the powers-that-be in TV do? Will the people who favor the removal of the crosses bring some sort of action? How about those Buddha statues, cement angels, etc.? And how about the "unequal enforcement" element? I doubt that those powers-that-be want to be confronted with ANY of those questions, and possibly more, which will happen if they lose. Hence, it appears that The Villages is drawing this out as long as they can, hoping against hope that this couple will just quietly acquiesce, run out of money to pay their attorneys, move, or otherwise cease to be an issue. |
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Welcome to TOTV. There have been many fixes suggested, but the original couple dug in their heels and will not follow the deed restrictions. |
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The pagan symbol. The Church of Satan symbol. The Muslim symbol. For those antisemites in the room, the Star of David. Buddha, faeries, a yin/yang statuette, shinto, confuscian, the swastika (which was originally a religious symbol), the baha'i faith symbol, or hey how about the ancient Egyptian god Min, who is most appropriately depicted as having a HUGE phallus? If you root for the white crosses, you MUST also root for all the above - and more. If you have a problem with any of the above, then you must root against the white crosses. "Religious freedom" applies to all religions. It's either allowed to be expressed on the lawn, or it isn't. |
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Does planting a "little white cross" even mean you're a Christian? Does growing vegetables mean you're a vegetarian? The answer to both queation is "NO"! π― |
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There are always those among us who insist on defining their "freedoms" by the lowest common denominator. |
Is this horse dead yet?
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Just my opinion. Everyone on totv has one, too. |
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The beauty of the "white cross" controversy is that it provides a simple way for new arrivals to identify laid-back, friendly neighborhoods where hateful neighbors don't seek out ways to dominate and annoy everyone close to them. If the idea of the "Friendly Hometown" appeals to you, then choose a neighborhood where the spirit of the rules is observed with neatly trimmed lawns and attractive landscaping, but nobody cares if you think a pink flamingo in your garden is the height of style -- or even if you stick a little 8" white cross in the bushes to advertise your religion.
On the other hand, the lack of "white crosses", flags, trees, or other decorations identifies a neighborhood where the residents are militant about rules and conformity. So if your lifelong dream is to have or be a Stepford Wife, you, too, can have the retirement of your dreams in The Villages! |
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There are additional restrictions where government cannot restrict religion. So the white crosses are both religious, and a symbol. Any restrictions are illegal and unconstitutional. Anyone who provides examples of similar things that "would you approve of that" ... OR "if this is allowed, where does it end" ... Everybody has the constitutional right to freedom of speech. Those rights cannot be restricted or limited. If someone agreed to limits in the past that can be revoked at any time. Disagree? Change the constitution. Until that happens, enjoy our freedoms. |
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So, let me see if I understand. Those who say (religiously or politically) " my way or the highway" are expressing un-American sentiments. π« Well, fancy that! |
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Hmm? Are you suggesting that people move to TV for the purpose of intentionally breaking their word and break the rules? Sounds dishonest. Like you are denigrating honorable people and praising those who are less than honorable. |
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Google says you agreed that they can read your mail and capture your search history, even though none of us has ever signed an agreement -- and yet the courts have confirmed such outrageous overreach, the same as the deed restrictions we all signed that can be interpreted to say that you can't plant a little white cross in your own yard. We trust Google and The Villages to not to use their powers for evil -- but in the end, people with power always do. On the day that Google uses your email and search history to create a social credit score, like they do in China, are you going to nod along and tell us that's what we all agreed to, so shut up and do as Big Brother tells you? If so, please don't move to my neighborhood. My advice is to simply use those little white crosses to find a neighborhood where people expect reasonable behavior -- or where they're militant lawn nazi's, if that's what you prefer, |
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It's called living in a civilized community, and agreeing to abide by rules. If you don't like the rules, you don't have to live in the community. There are places in The Villages where you can put up a white cross if you want to. THOSE OTHER places - you agree to not do that when you buy the house. |
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I am not in favor of "lawn nazis. But, if one would get called out for breaking the rule, I would hope that they understand that it was their own fault and they were unlucky enough to be the one who got caught and with good grace, correct the situation. And I'm still not sure how you figure the unibomber is the alternative to any of this. |
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Does anyone know which areas allow them? And why the discrepancy? |
Historic Section for sure. The developer refined things as they continued to build.
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