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I would be for an Albertsons instead of seeing more Publix stores.
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But then it got sold, so I don't know what happened to it. We were there from 2004 to 2009. |
Winn Dixie is still open in Spanish Springs just a short ride away. Also Publix and Walmart.
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Wow, I thought Albertsons when out of business 30 years ago? Must of downsized out of areas I lived in? |
The fall of Winn-Dixie had absolutely nothing to do with The Villages nor any lease agreement with the Developer.
Winn-Dixie has been struggling since 2004 when it announced losses of $79.5 million in just one quarter. Since then Winn-Dixie has gone into Bankruptcy THREE times - in 2005, 2009 and again in 2018. Bottom line, Winn-Dixie got beat by its competition - mainly Walmart - as Winn-Dixie positioned itself as a like-kind low priced grocer. Publix, on the other hand, went up-scale - differentiating itself by offering products and services not available at the lower priced grocers, albeit at a price, yet thus avoiding direct competition. Also, Aldi did not buy Winn-Dixie. Aldi Sud bought Southeastern Grocers, Winn-Dixie parent company. And for those of you clamoring for a TRADER JOE’S in The Villages, BOTH Aldi and Trader Joe’s are owned by the same folks - the Albrecht family. Aldi is actually an abbreviation for Albrecht Discounts. [Note: And for those who want to get technical - yes, there are two Aldi companies - Aldi Nord & Aldi Sud - created when the Albrecht brothers couldn’t agree on whether or not to sell cigarettes in the stores. Aldi Nord owns Trader Joe’s. However, both are private companies (and I do mean very private, here) and both are owned by Foundations of the Albrecht family and heirs - one of the richest, secluded and non-public families in Germany.] |
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Aldi generally is 20 to 30% less
Salmon is one item out of 50,000 and probably within 50 cents or a dollar of anywhere
I love the smoked salmon or the Atlantic trout at Aldi's. I also love the fact that I don't have to walk two miles to find something in a bigger store Cashiers are the fastest I've ever seen probably Quote:
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Have been seeing posts for years regarding rent charged by the developer. Does anyone have objective information which would sow that they charge more than others and if so how much higher are they?
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Cashiers are the fastest I've ever seen
So true. I think they are trained for speed. I've ben to a few ALDI stores that also have self-serve check-outs. Great when you only have a few items. Hope the include them at LSL. |
It’s not a surprise that the LSL Winn-Dixie is being converted to an Aldi. Stores the size of Winn-Dixie can’t be profitable with only Villages patrons. Not enough roof-tops. The LSL Winn-Dixie needed to also draw customers from outside The Villages. Ever wonder why there is no Villages Gate south of 466 nor north of 466A on Morse Boulevard? Yep, they tried but it never really worked. The LSL Winn-Dixie location is tucked too far inside The Villages with no easy access from a major thoroughfare. Villagers might think Morse Blvd. Is a major thoroughfare, but it ain’t. In that vein, I would guess LSL Winn-Dixie had quite the favorable Lease - but still not enough.
Will Aldi be profitable at that location - probably much so. Because of their size, approximately 25-30% of a Winn-Dixie, and their modus operandi - drop your quarter for a shopping buggy, get your items, bag ‘em and get out, oh and get your quarter back - they don’t need as much traffic. But if they do get anywhere near the traffic that LSL Winn-Dixie had then the Aldi will be very profitable. It will take time for people to become accustomed - different items, different brands - but there is documented significant savings at Aldi versus Winn-Dixie. The savings along with convenience of location will most likely end up winning a lot of Villagers “Hearts and Minds.” Before you disagree, just look at their Social Media following. |
Way off topic, but if anyone has a dog on the green bean diet, frozen are 96 cents a bag, steam in the bag. No additives.
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As for the retail space the Developer leases, there's no such thing as "higher than others". It's all based on the market and the volume of sales and profit margin the user can generate. Leasing retail space is different than leasing Office space (or Industrial or otherwise). Office space can be compared based on location, convenience, parking availability, aesthetics, etc. Retail space has only ONE criteria ... how much revenue can be generated, in the opinion of the Lessee. If the numbers work, the business leases the space. If they don't work, the space stays vacant. In other words, for retail space in The Villages, there are no absolutes nor objective criteria. How much money can be generated from the space and how does that base cost, fit into the business' revenue/profit model, is the only analysis. |
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I live about a mile from the former Winn Dixie at LSL.
6 days a week, I go through that parking lot, coming and going to a golf course. It sure was convenient to stop and pick up something for dinner or sugar or cream for my morning coffee. I've been back in The Villages since October, it's nearing 4 months that I've survived the inconvenience. On the positive side, I'm never tempted to buy some crap piece of steak they always seemed to have on sale at Winn Dixie. Anything is a major improvement on what's there right now. I'd settle for a convenience store. |
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I do feel for the OP as ALDI is a useless store in my opinion. I know people like it but it is not for me to unorganized and not enough products or selections.
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If the real estate group thought the economics of not being in the Villages was not good for their shareholders, there would be no grocery stores inside the Villages. Same goes for the restaurants, the retail stores, and the fast food places. |
I was in an Aldi a few days ago at dinner time and was very disappointed in the messy appearance of the store at that hour. There was stuff all over the floor and the boxes that hold the products were strewn all over the place. It looked as if there was no attempt at keeping the store presentable. I'm so used to walking into any Publix at any time of day and the stores always look pristine. Am I spoiled by Publix?
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I used to shop frequently at the LSL Winn Dixie. As COVID waned, but prices were rising like crazy and nobody knew what anything cost, I was shopping there and needed 5 lbs of King Arthur Bread Flour and a jar of yeast. The bright yellow cardboard sign declared the flour was $7.49, and yeast was $6.49, with exclamation points, as if this was an amazingly great set of prices. I wasn't sure what it would cost elsewhere, but I chose not to buy them. At Publix in Colony, $5.98, and $3.49, and at the Walmart Neighborhood Store, each item was even 50 cents less than Publix. I expect to see a 5 or 10 percent higher price at Publix, but 36% was a lot more than I was willing to spend for the convenience of shopping at that Winn Dixie. I don't think I ever set foot into that store since that day.
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