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shut the front door 05-31-2024 04:29 PM

Compensating.

jimjamuser 05-31-2024 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CosmicTrucker (Post 2336228)
Is sensitivity to sound a sign of dementia?
Sensory issues - These are often under reported and under recognised as being a symptom of dementia. People may experience issues with depth perception and spatial awareness, sensitivity to noise, or notice changes to taste and smell.

I had sensitivity to LOUD sounds at age 25 and I certainly had no dementia then. Many sound experts say that loud noises can be tiring to everyone, Although many will say that it doesn't affect them. As a child I had many ear infections and that could explain my sensitivity. When the local firetrucks turn on their sirens close to me and other people, I notice that I will cover my ears and they will NOT. Musicians playing loud music are notorious for having ear damage. Same for people working around large aircraft engines and also loud factories.

jimjamuser 05-31-2024 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2336242)
That's ridiculous. Both Corvettes and Harley-Davidson meet DOT requirements when the come off the assembly line. You can barely hear them from 10' away on start up.



The science has disproven the theory that "loud pipes saves lives", over & over & over again.

It's a cute sound bite, for riders that think they're cool and don't care about the noise impact to others.


Access to this page has been denied

A New Study Confirms 'Loud Pipes Save Lives' Is a Safety Myth

https://www.hemmings.com/stories/lou...-myth-or-fact/

Here in The Villages, the commercial lawn mowers are often louder than the motorcycle, cars, and trucks. I can get annoyed by lawnmowers 2 and 3 houses down from me. I will turn up my TV or music to block it out. A really aware residential area would FORCE the use of electrical commercial lawn mowers. I don't expect that here in my lifetime.

LeRoySmith 05-31-2024 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2336379)
Here in The Villages, the commercial lawn mowers are often louder than the motorcycle, cars, and trucks. I can get annoyed by lawnmowers 2 and 3 houses down from me. I will turn up my TV or music to block it out. A really aware residential area would FORCE the use of electrical commercial lawn mowers. I don't expect that here in my lifetime.

Electric cars, carts and mowers are killing the atmosphere!

jimjamuser 05-31-2024 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Harold.wiser (Post 2336253)
We rode our "loud Harleys" to the Florida National Cemetery on Sunday and placed hundreds of flags on gravesites of veterans. We are riding them back this Sunday to take the flags down.
Toy runs, rides to support various charitable organizations, helping veterans in need, etc, Harley riders are always there.
You don't like the sound my bike makes? I don't like the sound your yapping little ankle-biter dog makes. Turn down your hearing aids!

This is like, "your wrong (loud dog) is worse than my wrong (loud motorcycle)". Flawed logic - because BOTH are wrong.

jimjamuser 05-31-2024 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2336269)
"They sound great" is just your opinion. Actually, I kind of like it, too. But not at 6am roaring by leaving my wife and I clutching the the ceiling fan in our bedroom.

That's a good visual - hanging on the ceiling fan.

jimjamuser 05-31-2024 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Robojo (Post 2336284)
On a motorcycle loud pipes save lives.

No excuse on a car. They like the attention.

I moved from a farming community where everyone went to work before the sun most days. I had to adjust my sleep schedule cause there's no way I'm complaining about someone going to work.

On the flip side, if I went to work every morning at 6am I wouldn't have a loud vehicle OR I would move out of a place where people live five feet apart. But not everyone was raised right

The loud pipes on motorcycles SAVING lives - may have been true in 1950 before automobile A/C when cars rode around with their windows DOWN. But, today the windows are up and sealed tight letting in very little sound. So, the LOUD motorcycle noise has NO FUNCTION. It just got handed down for decades with no reality. It has become an excuse and it hurts the hearing of the motorcycle rider and annoys people on the street, all the while providing NO additional safety for the motorcyclist.

jimjamuser 05-31-2024 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Tobys Dad (Post 2336307)
I appreciate the sound of a loud engine. Turn down your hearing aids and mind your own business.

The solution would be to make a recording of a LOUD motorcycle and play it OFTEN in your OWN home.

John Mayes 05-31-2024 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2336379)
Here in The Villages, the commercial lawn mowers are often louder than the motorcycle, cars, and trucks. I can get annoyed by lawnmowers 2 and 3 houses down from me. I will turn up my TV or music to block it out. A really aware residential area would FORCE the use of electrical commercial lawn mowers. I don't expect that here in my lifetime.

Do you do your own yard work or do you require that electric mowers are used by the people you contract?

BrianL99 05-31-2024 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2336379)
Here in The Villages, the commercial lawn mowers are often louder than the motorcycle, cars, and trucks. I can get annoyed by lawnmowers 2 and 3 houses down from me. I will turn up my TV or music to block it out. A really aware residential area would FORCE the use of electrical commercial lawn mowers. I don't expect that here in my lifetime.

It's the leaf blowers and weed whackers that get me.

& I agree with you (don't tell anyone). Only Electric landscape equipment should be allowed.

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2336391)
The solution would be to make a recording of a LOUD motorcycle and play it OFTEN in your OWN home.

Or, get a nice set of headphones or ear pods and listen to it 24 hours a day ... anywhere they go.

Michael G. 05-31-2024 09:41 PM

Remember a couple years ago Harley Davidsons company was posting this all over on mugs, jackets, even condoms.

The slogan was, "Screw It, Let's Ride."

Now that was attitude and intelligence at it's best.

You're not buying a motorcycle with Harley, you're buying into a cult with beards, dirty shirts, and big beer bellies.
Believe me I know, I lived in Milwaukee.

indianahurricane 06-01-2024 04:25 AM

Muffler????
 
My truck doesn't have mufflers, I like the sound my truck makes. I built it for me.

Michael G. 06-01-2024 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by indianahurricane (Post 2336450)
My truck doesn't have mufflers, I like the sound my truck makes. I built it for me.

Without any concerns about obnoxious noise to other people, nice!

mkjelenbaas 06-01-2024 06:53 AM

I am thinking they like it - not sure but thanks for asking.

OhioBuckeye 06-01-2024 07:46 AM

Ohiobuckeye
 
Load mufflers we’re cheap, they made their car sound fast or it got them attention!

Shipping up to Boston 06-01-2024 09:48 AM

There’s a YouTube channel where a group of people get together....in the dozens....and parade into subdivisions and neighborhoods of ‘Karens’ with their classic and modified hobby cars. All the other neighbors friends, families and children line the streets in solidarity of the organizers. I will post the link at some point.

IMO....if it’s without malice, I have no issue with it. If someone was idling and holding court in front of my house....different story.

mikeycereal 06-01-2024 09:54 AM

Way back when I was 21 I drove a souped-up lowrider 1968 VW bug around. After I replaced the stock fan housing with an aluminum one to "pretty up" the engine it began to have a whistling sound while driving. Perhaps because of the hole I drilled for the clutch cable to go through. A co-worker thought that I had upgraded the performance and asked if I had "gearing." Hmmm, I liked that assessment. I never minded the attention at a few stoplights, but I was also wary of driving through the quiet neighborhoods during late nights/early mornings. Ever since I changed vehicles a few years later I never missed the sound. These days I don't want to have my car attracting any noisy attention to myself and I have embraced having a quieter engine. Apparently not true for some.

Number 10 GI 06-01-2024 09:56 AM

It seems like the only thing old people can do is complain. This forum needs to change it's name, Whine of The Villages.

Shipping up to Boston 06-01-2024 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 2336594)
It seems like the only thing old people can do is complain. This forum needs to change it name, Whine of The Villages.

Absolutely agree...
If it’s not uniform or to their liking....or, they don’t agree with a competing position on a topic...they pick up their ball and run home. Even the developer figured it out by welcoming families, schools and commercial spaces (Middleton/ Eastport etc). Forget the forum changing.....the ground game is about to change around here. IMO, a good thing. I applaud the developer on this ‘cultural shift’!

Deden 06-01-2024 10:14 AM

The saying goes, LOUD PIPES SAY LIVES!!!

fdpaq0580 06-01-2024 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 2336594)
It seems like the only thing old people can do is complain. This forum needs to change it's name, Whine of The Villages.

If that is what you think, then perhaps you're not paying attention. Like when a dog barks or a baby cries there is a reason. Rather then just ignoring it, it might require a serious look to get to the root. Jmho. 🤔🤔🤔

fdpaq0580 06-01-2024 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Deden (Post 2336603)
The saying goes, LOUD PIPES SAY LIVES!!!

? Never heard that one.

fdpaq0580 06-01-2024 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2336598)
Absolutely agree...
If it’s not uniform or to their liking....or, they don’t agree with a competing position on a topic...they pick up their ball and run home. Even the developer figured it out by welcoming families, schools and commercial spaces (Middleton/ Eastport etc). Forget the forum changing.....the ground game is about to change around here. IMO, a good thing. I applaud the developer on this ‘cultural shift’!

It isn't just "old people". It is everyone with that "my way or the hiway" attitude.

BrianL99 06-01-2024 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Deden (Post 2336603)
The saying goes, LOUD PIPES SAY LIVES!!!

Keep repeating it over & over & over again.

When you get to the 100,000th time you said, it still won't be any truer than the first time.

Shipping up to Boston 06-01-2024 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2336633)
Keep repeating it over & over & over again.

When you get to the 100,000th time you said, it still won't be any truer than the first time.

:1rotfl:

marcesium 06-01-2024 01:31 PM

They are lacking in size and need to show off

Shipping up to Boston 06-01-2024 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Deden (Post 2336603)
The saying goes, LOUD PIPES SAY LIVES!!!

From an ATL motorcycle attorney.....




What Do Studies Say About The “Loud Pipes Save Lives” Motto?

I found a study that studied this phrase and whether the loudness of the pipes, and exhaust pipes of the bike, lead and correlate to fewer motorcycle wreck events.

They found no, it is an absolute myth, and the reason is interesting. The main reason why it’s a myth is because most motorcycle wrecks do not occur where a motorist is striking the biker from the rear.

This is because head-on collisions minimize the effect of the loudness of your exhaust pipes, for obvious scientific reasons: your exhaust pipes are pointed behind you.

The noise is going backward, not to the sides or the front, so it’s less likely that the motorists that are going to potentially wreck with you aren’t going to hear you coming.

The second reason this is a myth is that most motorists have their windows up. They’re not driving convertibles, they typically have at least the radio on, they are talking with someone in the vehicle, they’re on the phone, etc. They’re distracted, and they’re not likely to hear the noise from your motorcycle.

* Apologies in advance if this has already been brought up

BrianL99 06-01-2024 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2336679)
From an ATL motorcycle attorney.....

* Apologies in advance if this has already been brought up

I posted the Top 3 Links on Google, related to actual tests. There's no question, the saying is complete and utter BS, but of course, the proponents don't want to read facts.

I'm lucky enough, to live in the center of Laconia Bike Week, which begins 5 days from now. Before the week is over, we'll have 3 deaths, at least 6 serious injuries, and be bombarded 24 hours a day, by noise and squealing tires.

Laconia Bike Week is dying an increasingly faster death. In 2004, we attendance was estimated at 375,000. Last year's "100th Anniversary", drew less than 100,000 visitors. It was just a blip on the radar screen. Hotels had rooms available and restaurants weren't crowded.

The Poser Bikers have worn out their welcome most everywhere. The "Loud Pipes Saves Lives" slogan is one of the major reasons.

We're also home to one of the largest chapters of the Hell's Angels, who happen to own much of the land around Weirs Beach.

I'm sure sure what most of those guys do in their "spare time", but when they're riding, most of them are riding RoadGlides with full face helmets and quiet exhausts ... and laughing at all the wannabes that show up and buy "I support 81" T-Shirts for $30.

Shipping up to Boston 06-01-2024 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2336722)
I posted the Top 3 Links on Google, related to actual tests. There's no question, the saying is complete and utter BS, but of course, the proponents don't want to read facts.

I'm lucky enough, to live in the center of Laconia Bike Week, which begins 5 days from now. Before the week is over, we'll have 3 deaths, at least 6 serious injuries, and be bombarded 24 hours a day, by noise and squealing tires.

Laconia Bike Week is dying an increasingly faster death. In 2004, we attendance was estimated at 375,000. Last year's "100th Anniversary", drew less than 100,000 visitors. It was just a blip on the radar screen. Hotels had rooms available and restaurants weren't crowded.

The Poser Bikers have worn out their welcome most everywhere. The "Loud Pipes Saves Lives" slogan is one of the major reasons.

We're also home to one of the largest chapters of the Hell's Angels, who happen to own much of the land around Weirs Beach.

I'm sure sure what most of those guys do in their "spare time", but when they're riding, most of them are riding RoadGlides with full face helmets and quiet exhausts ... and laughing at all the wannabes that show up and buy "I support 81" T-Shirts for $30.

They also messed up Laconia when it was dropped from 2 weeks to 1 week in duration. Agree...the week is a shell of its former identity. Don’t even get me started with Myrtle Beach missteps on their bike weeks!

dewilson58 06-01-2024 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by marcesium (Post 2336678)
They are lacking in size and need to show off


nice second post

barf

BrianL99 06-01-2024 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2336724)
They also messed up Laconia when it was dropped from 2 weeks to 1 week in duration. Agree...the week is a shell of its former identity. Don’t even get me started with Myrtle Beach missteps on their bike weeks!

Charlie St. Clair who's been Executive Director of Laconia Bike Week for 20+ years has taken Laconia Motorcycle Week from 400,000 Vistors to 100,000 ... this year will probably be announced at 75,000 and really be closer to 50,000.

I was VP of the local/Host HOG Chapter for a bit and had to deal with Charlie (who was also a state rep. Of course, in NH, state reps don't get paid and you always get what you pay for.)

Shipping up to Boston 06-01-2024 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2336733)
Charlie St. Clair who's been Executive Director of Laconia Bike Week for 20+ years, is a buffoon.

I was VP of the local/Host HOG Chapter for a bit and dealing with Charlie was like talking to a 17 year old.

So that experience must’ve come in handy navigating on this forum! :1rotfl: *

*sarcasm

BrianL99 06-01-2024 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2336734)
So that experience must’ve come in handy navigating on this forum! :1rotfl: *

*sarcasm


The entire Villages in general.

Deden 06-01-2024 06:53 PM

Talk about a Jerk!!!

fdpaq0580 06-01-2024 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Deden (Post 2336746)
Talk about a Jerk!!!

Which jerk? Do you have a preference? Or, will any jerk do? 😶

Topspinmo 06-01-2024 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 2336594)
It seems like the only thing old people can do is complain. This forum needs to change it's name, Whine of The Villages.


Sounds like whine to me:undecided:

spd2918 06-02-2024 06:43 AM

Imagine how safe learning to properly ride would be.

Loud pipes are for attention. Harley Davidsons perform better with some back pressure.

There is a reason Cobra Exhaust markets slip on pipes with the model name "Neighbor Hater."

BrianL99 06-02-2024 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by spd2918 (Post 2336825)

Loud pipes are for attention. Harley Davidsons perform better with some back pressure.

They hardly "perform" under any circumstances.

My Suzuki SV650 could blow the doors off my FLSTS and my BMW would leave them both in the dust.

Michael G. 06-02-2024 09:07 AM

My dad told me in his early life he rode a Indian motorcycle that had a decal attached on the gas tank, which in itself was unusually for any warning labels back in the 1920's.

The decal read: "If you abuse me, I will kill you."

interesting.

fdpaq0580 06-02-2024 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2336909)
My dad told me in his early life he rode a Indian motorcycle that had a decal attached on the gas tank, which in itself was unusually for any warning labels back in the 1920's.

The decal read: "If you abuse me, I will kill you."

interesting.

What a coincidence! My wife came with a tattoo that said the same thing! 😯


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