"Social order has been destroyed outside of the Villages".......hhhhyyyyymmmm Sounds to me like an older generational putdown of a younger generation. Don't forget that we were on the OTHER side of an issue like that when we-all decided to enjoy rock and roll.
........I think that the younger generation like Gretta Thunberg will do the world a world of GOOD. After all, we are the generation responsible for Global Warming and Unlimited populations.
.......Tv land does have an insulative effect from the younger generations and ideas, but I DO see a lot of seniors riding E-Bikes, so maybe we still have sparks of hope left. And I suspect that many golfers are uncomfortable about change.......even more than other retirees.

As one who reads TOTV posts for information l would appreciate it if the clown wannabees would find another site to inflict their attempts at humor on readers. We don't appreciate sifting thru junk to find help about a serious subject. Go to pathetic clowns.com.

Only if you have your biker club logo on the back of denim jacket

Did a poster say something about “respect for the game”

Tee shirts and golf
 

It isn't necessarily that it a tee shirt, but sloppy dress is considered the culprit. Since it's hard to say what is considered sloppy, parameters are set to define appropriate dress. Believe it or not; Studies have shown that golfers who dress poorly are more apt to: leave divots undressed, leave sand traps unraked, and also not repair ball marks left on green. The same studies also find that it's usually the poorly dressed players that leave angry divots in the fairways and even on the greens when they make a poor shot. So yes I agree that a dress code for golf is appropriate.

I don't know of any course that will allow him to play without appropriate atire, either here or anywhere else. It is an unwritten rule that golf shirts are worn on the golf course. If he does not like it take up another type of sport where he can wear exactly what he wants.

Oh yes, I do. Miniature Golf. He can wear anything there!

Remember before computers when people didn't post reductio absurdum arguments?

No one has the "balls" to do it...

Only you...

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Yes, one hole at one tournament defines the game...

What planet are you folks living on?

Golf courses all over the country (& the world) are modifying or eliminating "dress codes". I'd prefer folks always dressed with some class, but the world has changed. As usual, The Villagers are mired in the past. If someone wants to dress like a buffoon, how does it effect you? No matter how bad it gets, it will never approach the ridiculous dress at the town squares.

Tiger Woods’ new golf course has no dress code | Today'''s Golfer

Millennial Golf Dress Code

Should golf clubs still require dress codes?

Is It Time For Golf To Ditch The Dress Code? | Golf Monthly

Time to abolish dress code – there's proof in every golf club | National Club Golfer

http://www.golfgal-blog.com/2010/09/...e-up-call.html

So you’re saying if many people/places throw garbage on the golf course, we should too?

If I was allowed to play with my father, not only did you wear a collar shirt, but long pants only at the country club. When I started playing with my father-in-law, long pants were also a rule.

Old habits are hard to break, On many occasions in TV, I will wear long pants, and take a lot of heat for it. But I also have shirt, color, that matches, my pants, belt, shoes, and socks.

I wear a collar shirt 98% of the time I walk out the front door to even go to the grocery.

very controversial, interesting

I saw the following on-line:
When you invest yourself into the sport of golf, you need access to courses, which include various fees. You also need clubs, a bag, proper attire, and expendables like balls and tees.
Golf carts are clearly optional. Golfing is a very traditional sport. Part of the tradition is attire. Golfing attire elevates and sets apart individuals and the sport. (I’ll note here that the cost for playing golf at The Villages is extremely low.
However, low cost doesn’t mean low standards or violating tradition.) The marketplace is FILLED with golfing shirts, pants, shorts and skorts that have amazing fabric properties.
These fabrics boast breathable knit designs and sweat-wicking properties that far outperform tee shirts for comfort and durability. Arguing for tee shirts is like insisting you can hit balls with sticks.
Let’s don’t go downhill in the sporting tradition. Buy some golf shirts at Goodwill or the Charity store if you don’t want to invest heavily. Buy your entire golf wardrobe and equipment there if you like, but don’t bring the entire sport down because you want to go lowbrow.

Not sure which side you are arguing here...

So you're saying if many people/places allow t-shirts we should too?

So you're saying if many people/places have rules requiring collars we should too?

So you're saying if many people/places require long pants we should too?

So you're saying if many people/places prohibit denim we should too?

Have to be really, really careful about arguing based on traditions - there are some that we wouldn't be proud of today.

How about - if it affects the play of the game, have a rule for it. If it does not affect the play of the game but it offends your personal sensibilities, get over it.

Another Northern basher, prejudice has no boundaries. I'm from the north and think collared shirts are have been the standard until the non collared shirt, more like an abbreviated turtle neck was introduced many years ago by Nike on super golfer Tiger Woods. Tradition was affected, but not obliterated. I would hope that the traditional collared shirt stays as time progresses, but it seems that nothing of tradition isn't in the crosshairs of some groups.

Talking about tradition is a joke. Many traditions are outdated, and this is one of them.

It's golf, and it's a game for people to play and enjoy.

Please tell me how a guy that would like to where a t-shirt is in your words lowbrow, but suddenly is "elevated" when he buys and wears a collared shirt? He's the same person.

As I said in an earlier post, the world has gone casual. Get over it. Nice t-shirts and cargo shorts are very much the norm now.
They can have some simple rules to allow acceptable t-shirts.

Stop living in the past.

I guess I was mocking people who don’t want to adhere to the sport but would like to make up their own rules and still be allowed to play. Or walk their dogs on the course etc, why just stop at shirts? It’s not that golf is static. Traditions can be modified, with proper process, we now have helmets in hockey etc.

Lets end this nonsense by saying if you want to play in a Tee shirt find a club that allows it, and if you want to wear a traditional shirt you will have plenty of choices to play golf. Case closed I hope!

I'm much more worried about the tradition of proper golf etiquette, pace of play, and lazy people who won't fix ball marks.
Collared shirts, I could give a sh*t

Yes, that is YOU. And of course you are welcome to your opinion, as we all are.

Fair enough.

Walking dogs on the course affects the course and the game. Others have mentioned slow play and fixing divots - again, affects the course and the game. Helmets in hockey? Safety issue affecting the game. All good.

Shirts? Collars required until a champion golfer wore something else. Long pants required until (who?) wore shorts. No denim allowed until an owner wanted a change. None of this affected the course or the game and neither will t-shirts.

Proper process? The individual attempted to find the right board to propose a change in the rules. Given the response he received from those boards and in this thread, the only process to follow is to not suggest any changes.

It sounds like they went through the appropriate channels. Still it was rejected. Sometimes change takes time, and people, many people, to agree with it.

Very well said. Thanks for that. God forbid we try to change something in golf! lol

Women don't have to wear a collar so the guy can claim discrimination based on gender.

I don't wear a collared shirt when I put on my skort and play from the Ladies' Tees either...

I just identify as a woman with no collar and play from the blacks.

Are the old style gym shorts acceptable? How about tattered jeans? Wear a collared shirt 1/2 of the time. Feels the same as a T shirt and can be used to protect neck from sun.

I would revisit this when generation Z takes over The Villages.

EXACTLY….. Well said

For those who like to dress like Tiger Woods, if you notice he not only wears a polo but creased (ironed) long pants. In today’s Daily Sun.

PGAT is not allowed to wear shorts, he wears shorts during practice rounds.
Also something tells me he doesn't do his own ironing.
He is actually paid by Nike to wear those nice ironed pants.

Good to see LIV golf getting with the times and allowing shorts.