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manaboutown 04-07-2020 02:48 PM

I am staying at home as well. It turns out a friend of mine likely contracted the Chinese virus up in Washington State over Thanksgiving. She was up visiting her grandchildren and was very sick for several weeks. Some of the children even developed pneumonia. At the time she thought it was the worst flu of her life as there was little or nothing yet in the news about the virus. But by hindsight she realizes it could have been the Wuhan virus. That part of WA is home to many Chinese residents and frequent visitors from China so that is quite possible.

coffeebean 04-07-2020 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by NotGolfer (Post 1742033)
From the webcams....looks pretty "dead" to me on all of them. IF you're not there among those gathered, you won't have anything to worry about.

I don't think you quite get it. We ALL have to worry about these people that gather. Those gathering people will be walking the aisles in grocery stores, standing on lines at pharmacies, using gas pumps, standing on line for food pick up among other things. Understand? They put us all at risk.

jet10s 04-07-2020 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1742271)
I don't think you quite get it. We ALL have to worry about these people that gather. Those gathering people will be walking the aisles in grocery stores, standing on lines at pharmacies, using gas pumps, standing on line for food pick up among other things. Understand? They put us all at risk.

YOU do not have an accurate understanding of transmission of the virus -- hello -- gathering as long as social distance is maintained does not spread the virus -- no MORE SO THAN GOLF DOES -- IT IS ALSO A SOCIAL GATHERING...

asianthree 04-07-2020 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SickofSnow (Post 1742169)
Where did I say that I was present at the square? Just check the webcams in the morning. I observe the stay at home decree.

Awww you must not have cable, there are tons of free movies on, plus free books to read. Got to be better than checking on what others are doing :clap2:

EdFNJ 04-07-2020 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jet10s (Post 1742272)
YOU do not have an accurate understanding of transmission of the virus -- hello -- gathering as long as social distance is maintained does not spread the virus -- no MORE SO THAN GOLF DOES -- IT IS ALSO A SOCIAL GATHERING...

MIT sneeze study: New research shows sneezes can travel up to 200 feet. And that does NOT include a tailwind. Now that's nothing to sneeze at. And you are aware I am sure that a SNEEZE does carry the virus.

jet10s 04-07-2020 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 1742297)
MIT sneeze study: New research shows sneezes can travel up to 200 feet. And that does NOT include a tailwind. Now that's nothing to sneeze at. And you are aware I am sure that a SNEEZE does carry the virus.

that would have to take in account that (1) the person had the virus (2) the droplets from a sneeze would have to land in the vicinity of your face (()+ you would have to inhale the droplets or touch your face -- I think that all of the above is in the small are of possibility -- not in the realm of probability -- paranoid thinking == just thinking the worst not really likely

golfing eagles 04-08-2020 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by jet10s (Post 1742330)
that would have to take in account that (1) the person had the virus (2) the droplets from a sneeze would have to land in the vicinity of your face (()+ you would have to inhale the droplets or touch your face -- I think that all of the above is in the small are of possibility -- not in the realm of probability -- paranoid thinking == just thinking the worst not really likely

AND, in addition, the inoculum size you encounter is sufficient to cause infection AND the viral particles are still viable. So yes, POSSIBLE, but so is the possibility that a supernova a few dozen light years away is about to incinerate us.

coffeebean 04-09-2020 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jet10s (Post 1742272)
YOU do not have an accurate understanding of transmission of the virus -- hello -- gathering as long as social distance is maintained does not spread the virus -- no MORE SO THAN GOLF DOES -- IT IS ALSO A SOCIAL GATHERING...

Yes, I do understand how this virus is transmitted. I listen to Dr. Faucci and Dr. Birx. I was referring to the folks who are not following social distancing guidelines who are gathering. I have seen it. I have been bumped from behind in grocery store. Some folks just do not get the concept of social distancing.

Example: I was on line as folks were filing into Publix one morning when the store first opened. I was maintaining the 6 feet social distancing. Everyone else was "gathering" together and could not get into the store fast enough. Sure enough, two men cut in front of me because I had left 6 feet between me and the person in front of me. See what I mean?

bagboy 04-09-2020 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 1742297)
MIT sneeze study: New research shows sneezes can travel up to 200 feet. And that does NOT include a tailwind. Now that's nothing to sneeze at. And you are aware I am sure that a SNEEZE does carry the virus.

This quotes MIT saying 8 meters, or approximately 26 feet

How far do coughs and sneezes travel? - BBC Science Focus Magazine

jet10s 04-09-2020 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1743498)
Yes, I do understand how this virus is transmitted. I listen to Dr. Faucci and Dr. Birx. I was referring to the folks who are not following social distancing guidelines who are gathering. I have seen it. I have been bumped from behind in grocery store. Some folks just do not get the concept of social distancing.

Example: I was on line as folks were filing into Publix one morning when the store first opened. I was maintaining the 6 feet social distancing. Everyone else was "gathering" together and could not get into the store fast enough. Sure enough, two men cut in front of me because I had left 6 feet between me and the person in front of me. See what I mean?

YOU BETTER STAY IN YOUR HOUSE -- you do your thing -- you will probably never be able to understand that a drop in the breeze will not give you the virus

billethkid 04-09-2020 04:01 PM

I have a cane and when someone gets in my space I raise it parallel to the ground and advise them to back off (politely). A cane at arms length approximates 6 feet.


Going to any establishment when they first open in TV is nothing short of a mindless herd pressing to get in first and by all means leave no space at all for anybody to get in.....virus or not!

Going one hour later no problem.

graciegirl 04-09-2020 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by John_W (Post 1741862)

Thank you John. Not a soul at almost 5:30. Good on us Villagers and the other folks too.

Number 10 GI 04-09-2020 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1743568)
I have a cane and when someone gets in my space I raise it parallel to the ground and advise them to back off (politely). A cane at arms length approximates 6 feet.


Going to any establishment when they first open in TV is nothing short of a mindless herd pressing to get in first and by all means leave no space at all for anybody to get in.....virus or not!

Going one hour later no problem.

I advise against that, it could be considered brandishing a weapon if the person says they were intimidated and felt threatened. A cane can be considered a bludgeon. Do it to the wrong person and you might regret it, there some short fused people in this world.

coffeebean 04-09-2020 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1743568)
I have a cane and when someone gets in my space I raise it parallel to the ground and advise them to back off (politely). A cane at arms length approximates 6 feet.


Going to any establishment when they first open in TV is nothing short of a mindless herd pressing to get in first and by all means leave no space at all for anybody to get in.....virus or not!

Going one hour later no problem.

But then there is no more toilet paper! LOL.

EdFNJ 04-09-2020 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bagboy (Post 1743558)
This quotes MIT saying 8 meters, or approximately 26 feet

How far do coughs and sneezes travel? - BBC Science Focus Magazine

That doesn't include a tailwind or the speed of the cart or what you had for dinner. That being said, it's still more than 6' and more than 2 golf carts riding 6' behind each other :D

Of course the chances are slim to none ... but it was partially intended to be tongue in cheek and partially intended to make the point that like the 100 year pandemic we are now in, anything can happen that can change your life forever.

Oh, here is the actual MIT study from their news magazine. Sneezing produces complex fluid cascade, not a simple spray | MIT News Doesn't mention any specific distance though just 200x further than previously thought to be.


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