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Sabella 03-09-2025 06:45 AM

The postoffice has been an expensive burden on taxpayers for the past 20 years or so
 
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Originally Posted by shaw8700@outlook.com (Post 2414686)
Could we get by with only getting mail twice a week? Denmark is closing their mail service entirely at the end of this year. Other than the carriers losing their jobs what else would we lose?

Not sure how many years it has been but the post office has been losing hundreds of thousands if not billions of dollars every year that taxpayers are paying for.

bmcgowan13 03-09-2025 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by shaw8700@outlook.com (Post 2414686)
Could we get by with only getting mail twice a week?

Until 1950, mail delivery was twice a day!

I’ve always wondered why we didn’t switch to three times a week. Half the town getting mail on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays, and then the other half on Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Saturdays. Not unlike rubbish pickup rotation.

From my couch-bound perspective, it seems like a straightforward idea, but I’m sure there are more complex factors I’m not addressing..

What do businesses need?

Sully2023 03-09-2025 06:47 AM

Post office
 
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Originally Posted by shaw8700@outlook.com (Post 2414686)
Could we get by with only getting mail twice a week? Denmark is closing their mail service entirely at the end of this year. Other than the carriers losing their jobs what else would we lose?

Personally, I don’t need the post office anymore. I could receive everything electronically and have documents signed electronically.

It would save so much money for the taxpayers.

Lots of jobs would be lost.

The card industry would be hit badly if the post office closed. The older generation still sends cards to family members and friends.

I recall they tried to stop mail delivery on Saturdays and you would have thought the world was ending.

retiredguy123 03-09-2025 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Sabella (Post 2414741)
Not sure how many years it has been but the post office has been losing hundreds of thousands if not billions of dollars every year that taxpayers are paying for.

Billions

Kelevision 03-09-2025 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by shaw8700@outlook.com (Post 2414686)
Could we get by with only getting mail twice a week? Denmark is closing their mail service entirely at the end of this year. Other than the carriers losing their jobs what else would we lose?

Not quite. They’re stopping delivery of letters only. They’re still delivering packages. They even said, send letters inside of packages if you want to send a letter. They said they’ve seen such a huge decline in letters it’s not worth it. I’m guessing they don’t get the junk mail we do.

Dotneko 03-09-2025 06:50 AM

I collect my mail about weekly these days. With informed delivery, I know if there is something important in the box or not.

Kelevision 03-09-2025 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2414744)
Billions

Wrong…. the Postal Service is generally self-funded. This means that no tax dollars are used to keep the lights on at its many facilities across the country. The Postal Service, instead, relies on the revenue it generates from the sale of stamps, products, and services to fund its operations…. But we as a country hate Americans. Fire them all!!!!!

seecapecod 03-09-2025 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by shaw8700@outlook.com (Post 2414686)
Could we get by with only getting mail twice a week? Denmark is closing their mail service entirely at the end of this year. Other than the carriers losing their jobs what else would we lose?

Not until the States change policies on the required delivery of some documents by mail. example: change of address on life insurance policies - one paper confirmation to the old address and another to the new address. It’s a fraud protection policy.

retiredguy123 03-09-2025 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Kelevision (Post 2414747)
Wrong…. the Postal Service is generally self-funded. This means that no tax dollars are used to keep the lights on at its many facilities across the country. The Postal Service, instead, relies on the revenue it generates from the sale of stamps, products, and services to fund its operations…. But we as a country hate Americans. Fire them all!!!!!

Wrong. According to AI:

"The U.S. Postal Service (USPS) lost $9.5 billion in the fiscal year that ended on September 30, 2024."

The Post Office uses fuzzy math which does not include money that is spent to pay retirement and other benefits to people who no longer work there. When they hire a fulltime employee, it is for life, even though they retire after working 25 years or so. Then they collect a pension, Social Security, health benefits, and other benefits for the rest of their life. But the Post Office doesn't want to include these costs in their budget. The only people who claim that the USPS is self-funded is the USPS itself.

A recent GAO audit of the USPS concluded that:

"Unsustainable Deficits:
USPS continues to incur deficits that are unsustainable, with net losses totaling over $62 billion over a decade."

This is from an independent audit, not self-serving propaganda.

RoboVil 03-09-2025 07:05 AM

I would definitely miss my mail. Don't think I could do without it. I would certainly miss all the celebratory cards, and believe it or not, I have official mail that requires using US Mail and cannot be handled by Docusign. Also, think of all the free meals we would lose from the retirement planning financial services!

dtennent 03-09-2025 07:37 AM

The USPS delivers mail throughout our country including very rural places in the middle of winter. It is easy for us who live in a community where everything is close by to imagine living without mail service but folks living in remote areas probably have a different point of view.

MX rider 03-09-2025 07:42 AM

I agree with some others here, we could get by with 2 days a week easily. Nothing we get in the mail is urgent enough to need 6 days a week.

Angelhug52 03-09-2025 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2414700)
Dam, all the postal areas in the Villages can be converted into dog parks : )

Great idea! Make them official poop centers instead of post center
🐾🐾

Bogie Shooter 03-09-2025 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2414736)
Who would deliver the junk mail? When was the last time you received junk mail from UPS or FedEx? Most people need to go to their mailbox every day to pick up their junk mail and throw it in the trash. I only go to my mailbox about every 2 weeks.

The most ridiculous argument the Post Office makes to justify their existence is that their operating expenses should not include retirement and other benefits of the employees. But, many Federal employees receive more money during retirement than they receive while working.

Every two weeks, how many of those little boxes do you have? Junk mail fills mine in three days…

retiredguy123 03-09-2025 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2414768)
Every two weeks, how many of those little boxes do you have? Junk mail fills mine in three days…

I only have one, and it never gets completely full. But I really don't care if it does.


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