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dtennent 06-16-2024 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by FredMitchell (Post 2341434)
Getting factual information is useful
SECO Announcement - what the poles are and why the increase and comparison to other communities
Report of meeting Reaction in TV - (abbreviated to avoid the silly little magnifying glasses that otherwise are magically added to posts)
Reaction reported on CDD7

Please feel free to reply to this with other factual resources to make it easy for people to read all the facts before making comments or supplying false information without factual knowledge.

Doing division is useful, if and only if the both the numerator and denominator are correct. Otherwise it is just 4th grade (?) arithmetic.

As I read the SECO announcement, this increase is to convert light poles to be LEDs. Given that this will result in lower power consumption, longer unit lifetime, and hence lower maintenance costs, how many years will it take to complete this conversion? Will SECO then decrease the rental fees after the conversion is done?

ohiosbestus 06-16-2024 07:25 AM

Get rid of them.....Use Solar powered lighting instead. Price Gouging should be punished by jail time. I bet it would quit if the law was enforced.

Altavia 06-16-2024 07:41 AM

Framing this as a HUGE 400% increase is highly deceptive.

If the increase is $5/mo a rooftop, that is more like a 10% adjustment to the Maintenance fee.

Altavia 06-16-2024 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by CybrSage (Post 2341474)
I live in a Duke area, my costs are not changing. Why would you include my home in a price increase for an electric company I do not have?

So what's the correct number to use?

Daddymac 06-16-2024 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 2341220)
Not a big deal, everything has gone up over the last 3 years.

Ok, We see you know nothing about this!:ohdear::ohdear::ohdear:

Daddymac 06-16-2024 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2341223)
Plus utilities are regulated regarding their fees

:rant-rave: Dear Lord, How do dumb people live this long !!

Bill14564 06-16-2024 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2341493)
Framing this as a HUGE 400% increase is highly deceptive.

If the increase is $5/mo a rooftop, that is more like a 2.6% adjustment to the Amenity fee.

In the real world, a manager would be expected to find something else to reduce to absorb charges for a critical resource.

I guess that depends on how you look at it.

$5/month is 10% of my maintenance fee. So either I accept a 10% increase or the CDD has to find a way to trim 10% of their budget for this additional cost.

10% of the budget doesn't sound too bad until you consider fixed costs. For my CDD, 67% of the budget is obligated for PWAC. This number seems to be non-negotiable. So the increase does not come out of the full budget, it comes out of the 33% that is left over. Another 10% of the budget goes to other fixed items such as salaries, legal fees, and management fees to the VCCDD.

All in all, this leaves about 25% of the yearly budget to cover an increase equivalent to 10% of the yearly budget. In other words, the $5/month per rooftop works out to be about 50% of the spending the CDD controls. Half of what gets done that is not accomplished through the PWAC will need to be cut to cover this increase. To me, that is quite significant.

Papa_lecki 06-16-2024 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ohiosbestus (Post 2341484)
Get rid of them.....Use Solar powered lighting instead. Price Gouging should be punished by jail time. I bet it would quit if the law was enforced.

That solution will work well during a 2 day storm, when, you know, there is no sunlight to charge the lights.

roadrnnr 06-16-2024 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2341229)
J I already converted mine to solar.

How?

Robojo 06-16-2024 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Happydaz (Post 2341221)
600%?

Welcome to a world driven by.....we ain't allowed to say it here but you know.

vintageogauge 06-16-2024 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Daddymac (Post 2341501)
Ok, We see you know nothing about this!:ohdear::ohdear::ohdear:

I do know all about it and you are making a big deal out of a few dollars a month, what do you expect in this inflationary environment? It proves that you know nothing about this. Oh My, Oh My, Oh My, if you can't afford it they are hiring at McDonalds, can Daddymac make a Big Mac.

Bogie Shooter 06-16-2024 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2341493)
Framing this as a HUGE 400% increase is highly deceptive.

If the increase is $5/mo a rooftop, that is more like a 2.6% adjustment to the Amenity fee.

In the real world, a manager would be expected to find something else to reduce to absorb charges for a critical resource.

Nothing to do with amenity fees.

Glowing Horizon 06-16-2024 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2341251)
So, I guess our electric utility rates in the Villages will only be about 3/4 of what we pay in Massachusetts, instead of about half as much. Still a dam good deal on a relative basis.

Recent electricity bill ratesin IL went up 3x from last summer with lots new wind farms & added solar arrays, shut down nat gas & constantly attacking existing nuclear plants. Green costs a lot of green but produces a lot less usable power.

Altavia 06-16-2024 02:19 PM

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Altavia 06-16-2024 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2341507)
I guess that depends on how you look at it.

$5/month is 10% of my maintenance fee. So either I accept a 10% increase or the CDD has to find a way to trim 10% of their budget for this additional cost.

10% of the budget doesn't sound too bad until you consider fixed costs. For my CDD, 67% of the budget is obligated for PWAC. This number seems to be non-negotiable. So the increase does not come out of the full budget, it comes out of the 33% that is left over. Another 10% of the budget goes to other fixed items such as salaries, legal fees, and management fees to the VCCDD.

All in all, this leaves about 25% of the yearly budget to cover an increase equivalent to 10% of the yearly budget. In other words, the $5/month per rooftop works out to be about 50% of the spending the CDD controls. Half of what gets done that is not accomplished through the PWAC will need to be cut to cover this increase. To me, that is quite significant.

Very interesting, appreciate the details.


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