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Nana2Teddy 07-30-2024 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by xcaligirl (Post 2354091)
We moved here in 2014 and I KNEW I wanted lightning rods. Ended up purhasing a house that already had them but then moved and got lightning rods on the new property. With the violent storms we have here, I wouldn't do without them. People always doubt them until there is a horrible lightning storm! My husband never believed in them but we have them for my peace.

I’m an xcaligirl too. I saw very brief lightning maybe 3x ever in my whole life as a native Southern Californian, so these storms here are terrifying to me. Will likely get the LPS.

FredMitchell 07-31-2024 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Nana2Teddy (Post 2352661)
Has anyone called A-1 or Triangle recently to get a quote? Just curious how backed up they are currently. I’m guessing it’s a long wait list.

I called Triangle mid-morning today. Quote arrived before 1 PM. I only filled out a form at A-1 website. If I don't hear from them by tomorrow morning, I will call them.

Triangle needed address and T V home type. They use Google Earth to measure the roof and the home type for whatever additional information they needed. One the phone, she asked whether my bird cage enclosed a pool and what size was it. So I think she had looked at Google Earth immediately after getting the address while still on the phone. Quoted both copper and aluminum, with caveat that the aluminum lines would all need replacement when the roof is replaced. Copper can be save and reused.

HTH

Nana2Teddy 08-01-2024 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by FredMitchell (Post 2354871)
I called Triangle mid-morning today. Quote arrived before 1 PM. I only filled out a form at A-1 website. If I don't hear from them by tomorrow morning, I will call them.

Triangle needed address and T V home type. They use Google Earth to measure the roof and the home type for whatever additional information they needed. One the phone, she asked whether my bird cage enclosed a pool and what size was it. So I think she had looked at Google Earth immediately after getting the address while still on the phone. Quoted both copper and aluminum, with caveat that the aluminum lines would all need replacement when the roof is replaced. Copper can be save and reused.

HTH

Thank you! This helps a lot. I have heard elsewhere that A1 isn’t replying to their online form recently. Probably because they’re slammed with inquiries.

asianthree 08-01-2024 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2353713)
Lightning is not nerve-wracking for me. Even though I have gas lines in my attic, which I converted to lightning-proof black iron pipe, I have lightning rods, a whole house surge protection unit on my fuse box, and individual surge protectors on all home electronic devices. Now I just sit back and watch the show. Of course though, when I was a storm chaser - I went looking for the show.

My guess is if you were a storm chaser, you are an adrenaline junky when storms are a possibility. AJ’s rarely come off that high, even when it’s no longer their profession. So my guess is nerve racking has never been an issue for you inside or outside, with or without installations.

Many residents lived in states with severe weather storms that caused extensive property damage. Rarely do the storms in TV cause them to waste time and health worrying over what may happen.

One of our previous neighbors, had both surge suppressors, rods, whole house generator, and a giant fire safe in a closet. One would think their protections would give them peace.
That’s not the case, for days before and after, possible tropical storms and entire summer lightning storms…..Fear at its highest.

So no matter how many layers one adds to a house, worry and fear for some will always exist, no matter what. And some just take the storm in stride no different than any other day.

Still on the fence on what we may or not add, to the whole house suppressor, right now I see the giant live oak behind our house, a possible issue.

Altavia 08-01-2024 09:02 AM

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Kenswing 08-01-2024 09:08 AM

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The proud owner of a new whole house surge protector.

retiredguy123 08-01-2024 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by jrref (Post 2352383)
As you mentioned, typically on a house already built, the system goes on the roof. In reality the cables could be run inside the attic on an already built home but it would be very complex and expensive which is why it not generally done.

Does The Villages allow a private contractor to install a system during construction?

jrref 08-01-2024 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Nana2Teddy (Post 2354977)
Thank you! This helps a lot. I have heard elsewhere that A1 isn’t replying to their online form recently. Probably because they’re slammed with inquiries.

They are and you will now find Triangle’s pricing very close to A1 and both companies install to UL specs so the install will basically the same. The problem is there are only a couple of certified Lightning Protection installers that work in The Villages so now that a lot of people are considering getting systems these companies are totally overwhelmed, but I think Triangle has several crews so I’m sure they’re still better available dates. When you talk to Triangle, it’s really important to describe if you have pools birdcage approximate size of all this extra stuff to get the best possible price. In some cases, people have a very small birdcage over a very small pool so the pricing is different than somebody with a large bird cage and a large pool
The same thing happening with whole house surge protection. Lenhart had this special running an a ton of people ordered they eaten ultra surge protector so they’ve been overwhelmed as well.

RedChariot 08-01-2024 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 2355087)
The proud owner of a new whole house surge protector.

Who did you choose to install? Are you willing to share the cost?

jrref 08-01-2024 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RedChariot (Post 2355185)
Who did you choose to install? Are you willing to share the cost?

Lenhart electric has the best price for the Eaton Ultra. If you mention this thread they will give you a discount. Unfortunately, the special deal they were offering has ended.

Kenswing 08-01-2024 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RedChariot (Post 2355185)
Who did you choose to install? Are you willing to share the cost?

We went with Pike’s Electric. It was $545 minus a few bucks for mentioning TOTV. I understand Lenhart may have been a little cheaper. And Lenhart has actually done work at our house as a subcontractor to the guys doing our motorized screens. They do a good job. But Pike’s wired our house. They also did a superb job installing power for our hot tub after we moved in. It pretty much came down to who we were more comfortable with. I’ve dealt with Casandra in Pike’s front office before and she is a joy to work with. Each and every technician they have sent has been friendly. Didn’t mind if I asked questions and left everything meticulously clean when they left.

countrycomfort1 08-07-2024 04:47 AM

LPs
 
How do you drive a ground rod 20-30 ft?

jrref 08-07-2024 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by countrycomfort1 (Post 2357212)
How do you drive a ground rod 20-30 ft?

The rods are 10 ft each, connected by a special connector and hammered into the ground.

Altavia 08-07-2024 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by countrycomfort1 (Post 2357212)
How do you drive a ground rod 20-30 ft?

Hammer drill/impact tool.

Altavia 08-07-2024 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2355089)
Does The Villages allow a private contractor to install a system during construction?

Not when I built 5 years ago.

I don't think they permit anyone private to work on the house before closing.


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