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asianthree 07-02-2020 01:01 PM

Good newS no one is complaining that the bridges are not open.

I have more on my plate than who chooses to wear a mask. I wear one 16 hours straight, once I am out of facility I have 8 hours to breathe normal.

Most mask wearing is inconsistent with how to wear one. I don’t expect anyone to try to protect me.

Gulfcoast 07-02-2020 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1796481)
There are two different arguments here, each completely different than the other. Of course any thinking person is aware and worried about the impact of a pandemic on the economy and on the very livelihood and substance of existence that is impacted. Especially people who are older and can see and relate to many ups and downs in the nations economy they personally have witnessed over the many decades they have lived.. It is very clear to us disposables that indeed the economy is impacted and most everyone is willing to do whatever they can to keep products and services moving and people paid. Because it all relates to all of us. The economy must be protected in all ways.

The second issue is wearing of masks and whether or not it is saving any lives and is it saving lives of the younger and "cough cough" more valuable people??? After all as was stated, the old are going to kick the bucket soon anyway.

Truth is the damned virus is mutating and may be working on killing a lot of younger, more attractive and vibrant people than just the old fogies. It may even have it's sites set on little tiny adorable infants.

I think that it is wise to wear a mask and try to keep those ******* Covid-19's at bay as much as we can. No matter how young or old we are.

I am really sorry if I came across as uncaring or thinking that old people are less valuable than young people are. That is simply not the truth. I simply am saying that the young working people are at an entirely different life stage and have different worries than those of us entering or in retirement. The virus simply is not a big risk to most young people but some of the restrictions being imposed on our businesses are impacting them greatly and to their detriment.

Maybe restaurants could reopen at full capacity and have special high risk hours for those who prefer stricter social distancing measures. Same thing with stores, gyms, rec centers, country clubs.

How do we find a middle ground where we can assess and manage our own risk factors?

canyonblue 07-02-2020 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Gulfcoast (Post 1796494)
How do we find a middle ground where we can assess and manage our own risk factors?

I think this video does a great job explaining this.....


maybe 07-02-2020 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jcrose19337 (Post 1796357)
Has everyone forgotten that the CDC initially told us mask wearing wasn't necessary and could even be counter-productive in the prevention/spread of this new disease?

(The mind staggers when seeing some of the filthy face coverings some people are walking around with and to know how many germs are being harbored right there on their face.)

Now, the CDC tell us how absolutely necessary mask wearing is.

So, were they lying to us then or are they lying to us now?

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Initially doctors thought that if you had the infection you'd feel sick and know it, and therefore stay home, so no need to wear a mask for protection of others. Now they know you can be infected and not know it, therefore everyone should wear a mask in public to help protect others. As to protecting yourself, a typical cloth mask offers only a small degree of protection, and the N95 masks, which do offer you good protection, were in especially short supply and needed by doctors, nurses, etc.
I don't think they lied, but have changed positions based upon the change in what facts are known. The known facts now are that wearing even the typical cloth mask can protect you a little, and protect others a great deal, so when you are around other people, especially indoors, you should wear one.

EdFNJ 07-02-2020 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie0723 (Post 1796441)
Doubtful anyone's mind will be changed regarding masks at this point.

But what do you tell friends and family if you contract the disease and have to tell them they are at risk because of you? What answer do you give if they ask if you wore a mask.

Or how would someone feel if they contracted COVID, infected a loved one and lost that person to the disease.

What answer would you give your grandchildren when they ask if you wore a mask or not around grandma before she contracted The disease from you?

That person would yell "IT'S WAS TYRANNY TO MAKE US WEAR A MASK!" the heck with gramma or [fill in the blank]."

Chitown 07-02-2020 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Gulfcoast (Post 1796366)
I guess the question is - how much more proof do we need that this virus is not nearly as deadly as once feared? All of this mask wearing feels like enabling hysteria to me. Actual science is telling us that things are not that bad.

I couldn’t have said it better. Mark my words, years from now they will look back at this virus hysteria and will have learned from it. Laugh if you want but letting a group of doctors and worse than that politicians who issue executive orders, dictate to us how we will act, how we will behave, ordering the closing of schools, businesses, restaurants, stay at home orders, erodes the fundamental rights people have to choose. We all know that cigarettes cause lung cancer and kill hundreds of thousands every year yet we give people the right to choose to smoke.

EdFNJ 07-02-2020 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jcrose19337 (Post 1796357)
Has everyone forgotten that the CDC initially told us mask wearing wasn't necessary and could even be counter-productive in the prevention/spread of this new disease?

(The mind staggers when seeing some of the filthy face coverings some people are walking around with and to know how many germs are being harbored right there on their face.)

Now, the CDC tell us how absolutely necessary mask wearing is.

So, were they lying to us then or are they lying to us now?

Last time I answered this post the moderators deleted it for some unknown reason. Bottom line is a little reading sometimes 'learns ya' sometin.' I might suggest searching for the reasons they originally said to not wear them. You could become informed.

ONE out of the numerous reasons was at the time they said that (back in March I believe) there was a shortage of any PPE type of equipment and they didn't want people hording them and keeping them from the first responders. Most people were PAYING ATTENTION and staying home and didn't really have enough need for them to keep them away from first responders. Also over time, unlike many, they learned something and modified their position.

As I am SURE you really do understand it had nothing to do with lying, just learning. If you want to actually look for real lying about the virus there are many other obvious places to look.

Altavia 07-02-2020 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Gulfcoast (Post 1796483)
If I were symptomatic I would stay home.

I find it hard to believe anyone at this point in time does not comprehend many are non-symptomatic and this disease can be transmitted by people without symptoms?

You are playing Russian roulette thinking otherwise.

EdFNJ 07-02-2020 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Chitown (Post 1796555)
We all know that cigarettes cause lung cancer and kill hundreds of thousands every year yet we give people the right to choose to smoke.

No, not really. You picked a poor analogy. You can't "choose to" smoke anywhere in crowded public spaces. You are prevented from smoking in public buildings of any kind. You're choice to poison yourself in your own home, in your car or far from me outside but not in any store or restaurant or airport or theater or movie or bar or men's room or ladies room or doctors office or hospital or dog pound or bakery and many other places where your smoking could harm others. Smoking is far more limited than the courtesy of wearing a mask when in those same places to protect others. So while you have the choice to smoke your choice to smoke inside public places is virtually non-existent. SUCH TYRANNY!

Gpsma 07-03-2020 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by npwalters (Post 1795968)
Pretty much sums up my thoughts on it.

Me too... Villagers have bought into the hysteria.

JoMar 07-05-2020 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Chitown (Post 1796555)
I couldn’t have said it better. Mark my words, years from now they will look back at this virus hysteria and will have learned from it. Laugh if you want but letting a group of doctors and worse than that politicians who issue executive orders, dictate to us how we will act, how we will behave, ordering the closing of schools, businesses, restaurants, stay at home orders, erodes the fundamental rights people have to choose. We all know that cigarettes cause lung cancer and kill hundreds of thousands every year yet we give people the right to choose to smoke.

Silly post....throwing "rights" around like you are the only one with them, there are those that have their rights as well and they disagree with yours. Comparing cigarettes to this is also silly and oh yeah, it was a group of doctors and worse than that politicians who dictated to us how we will act, how we will behave. Businesses got right on board and shut out the smokers who probably feel they have a right to smoke. I know, it's all and only about you.


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