Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe (Post 2047049)

Are you talking about St. Fauci, the guy who authorized funding of the likely development of Covid? The same St. Fauci who has backtracked, revised, and flip-flopped on nearly every single pronouncement he has made since the beginning of this "pandemic?" That Fauci's advice?

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2046937)

Golfing Eagles says that cloth masks do "next to nothing" to prevent COVID-19. This might be true. I'm willing to accept that judgment from this particular stranger on the internet.

I'd rather have "next to nothing" than "absolutely nothing" if those were my only options.

I used a cloth mask when I was working for Publix, because that's what they were giving us and paper masks were sold out and back ordered for awhile. When the 3-ply surgical masks became available, with the blue outer layer, I bought a box of 50 and stopped using the cloth ones. Much less uncomfortable when you're in an un-airconditioned vestibule wearing thick dishwashing gloves that are 2 sizes too big and go all the way up to your elbows, sanitizing shopping carts for 4-6 hours a day.

I eventually got used to wearing the 3-ply "paper" surgical masks, and they no longer bother me at all. So if it makes someone -else- comfortable to feel that my wearing a mask is preventing their sickness, I am fine wearing the mask for them. I've mostly stopped wearing them inside places, though I keep a couple in my purse just in case. If the paper ones weren't available I'd wear the cloth ones instead.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2047392)

I agree with about 95 % of everything in that post. However, indoors is FAR more dangerous for CV (especially now and until maybe the 1st week in Feb.) So, masks are MOST important indoors. That is WELL known so, maybe I read the post wrong?

Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 2046979)

The last 2 years many deaths from cancer, flu, traffic accidents, were classified as Covid. Even if you were stage 4, death certificate could go to review after the fact, and changed to Covid. Many cases went to review months after death, and some states reported weekly how many were up for review.

Sadly the stats for cancer, cardiac and others were almost non existent. If you face planted off your Harley, you were still tested for Covid. If positive you died from Covid. Gunshot was still counted as cause of death.

Thankfully, now if you fall off your Harley, and test positive you died with Covid. Puts stats back into perspective.

Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 2047021)

This thread has certainly run its course.

Originally Posted by Spalumbos62 (Post 2047042)

Sorry...I don't agree. To sit here a take anything all of you old naysayers are spewing vs Fauci's advice...you are all crazy.
Not saying we have to stay in our homes scared, but for crying out loud... how many people do you have to hear about that didn't get vaxed and are lying in the hospital begging for the Vax. OK, wearing, or not wearing a mask does not go hand and hand with if one believes that they should be vaxed, but if you are...why wouldn't you continue to help yourself stay even more safe and wear it???? Not unless I'm supposed to believe all you that you that have done nothing but cut this person apart in this post, are not vaxed.

Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe (Post 2047049)

Are you talking about St. Fauci, the guy who authorized funding of the likely development of Covid? The same St. Fauci who has backtracked, revised, and flip-flopped on nearly every single pronouncement he has made since the beginning of this "pandemic?" That Fauci's advice?

Originally Posted by Pachine58 (Post 2047102)

First masks do not work. Second if your worried about someone giving you Flurona stay home.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2047408)

Many Doctors are saying that Omicron MAY (?) surge and then level off and go down in the next few weeks. It would be prudent for ALL to wait for that "all-clear" signal before partying-hardy!

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2047253)

I've always been a believer in "that which does not kill you, makes you stronger".

I'm no medical guy, but I am a student of history, and the history of the initial settling of the Americas is fascinating. Those Spanish conquistadors brought a whole lot more than paella and gazpacho with them when they first landed here. On the island of Hispaniola, for example, there was a thriving population of an estimated 1.5 to 2 million Taino indians. It took scarcely 50 years for that population to dwindle, in an estimate made in 1547 (las Casas) to about 200 left on the entire island. They died from a variety of things; a lot were killed outright or worked to death, but a huge portion of them died of diseases brought by the Spanish and the Portuguese; some pretty virulent like smallpox and typhus but others that to the Europeans were probably quite mild, such as measles and the flu. In all, anywhere from twelve to fifteen MILLION indigenous peoples in Central and South America were victims of those diseases. Europeans died from them too, but nowhere near like the wholesale (calling it what it was) genocide that they unintentionally wreaked on the indigenous people. They had no resistance, and in light of the primitive medical care that they undoubtedly possessed, the outcome was inevitable.

The standard of our medical care is light-years beyond that of the Taino indians. Given that, I often wonder: where would we be now if we had done absolutely nothing about COVID, but just continued living our lives the way we always had? Would COVID be only an uncomfortable memory today?

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2047419)

Until the next (and probably less deadly) variant comes along... Wash, rinse & repeat...

Originally Posted by Wackowilley (Post 2046167)

So we are out to dine at Belle Glade and select indoor seating. Our group all have on masks. Our waiter arrives without a mask but is polite in introducing himself. One of our group asks him to put on a mask. He replied I don’t need to wear one, my management doesn’t require it. Further, He said he would not wear one and that no other wait staff would either. In view of the fact he moves around a closed environment, breathing the air of all his customers without being masked and then walks right up to our table unmasked is very threatening and extremely inconsiderate. I believe if a customer doesn’t want to be exposed to higher risks of COVID exposure they should be respected by staff who should make reasonable accommodations. This isn’t about trying to make others wear masks, it’s about requesting people who are working for you to comply with your reasonable requests.

Originally Posted by Spalumbos62 (Post 2047260)

Oh stop being silly and condenseding....again this ugly virus keeps raising its ugly head differently every couple of months. To even think what fauci or the cdc say would stay the same with every new variance is ridiculous and I would think an average joe could realize that...jezzz