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Singerlady 05-03-2020 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by devorejh (Post 1757939)
Nope...
I hope I never meet you. Let me know how this whole thing works out for you down the line.

Singerlady 05-03-2020 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by devorejh (Post 1757950)
It’s deadly primarily to a subset of adults 70 and over that have underlying conditions. To 95% of us it may be less deadly than the flu. If you choose to remain paranoid then understand that it is your choice? But you don’t get to control other people!
...oh and paranoid is not equivalent to cautious and SMART!

Stu from NYC 05-03-2020 07:57 AM
I go for a walk before 8 am to get my mail and area is pretty empty. Why in the world do I need a mask if I always stay 6 ft away from anyone walking by?

I am amazed to see people driving by in cars or golf carts wearing masks.

donassaid 05-03-2020 07:58 AM
Maybe we should give them 40 lashes? Or maybe a medal for not being a sheeple that believes everything our government says. A number of scientists and doctors say that wearing a mask inhibits your immune system as well as diminishes "herd immunity". This has been a "manufactured crisis" and is nothing more than a trial run to see how much opposition there would be for total government control. Apparently not much.

gatorbill1 05-03-2020 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by devorejh (Post 1757818)
A lot has changed. People now know that this virus is not as deadly as once thought based on the growing numbers of people that had it and had none, or very few symptoms. Also, you can’t stay locked up forever or wear a mask forever. Have recently heard doctors say that these masks are mostly psychological and do very little to stop any virus.
Most of us want to get back to living and we’ll take our chances just like we have done with any other virus. That 5% that have severe underlying conditions obviously may choose to continue avoiding people?
5% ?? where do you live. The Villages has more like 80-90%. Stay away from me please.

Biggles 05-03-2020 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by CarolSells (Post 1757883)
Thank you! The best post; I agree with all of these.
AGREE!: bigbow:

Manhoopty 05-03-2020 08:11 AM
Maybe they should call the Lone Ranger and have Him deliver their mail....

Aloha1 05-03-2020 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by gatorbill1 (Post 1757965)
5% ?? where do you live. The Villages has more like 80-90%. Stay away from me please.
80-90% of Villagers DO NOT have underlying conditions. Where did you get that from? CNN?

Manhoopty 05-03-2020 08:23 AM
And STILL we can’t get this damn virus up to a one percent death rate,,,! Dammit, That’s gotta Really make people mad.....

Squid48 05-03-2020 08:27 AM
Unbelievable! Sounds like Nazis during WWII. Just kill the weak.” You must be so proud.

Golfer in Sanibel 05-03-2020 08:38 AM
Please explain to me why I need a mask to pick up my mail when I am never within 15' of another.

Marylynn 05-03-2020 08:48 AM
I think wearing a mask makes others feel comfortable whether you’re six feet away or twenty feet away. Comfortable that others are being considerate.

Pleegasser 05-03-2020 08:56 AM
Thank you for some common sense, very uncommon these days with all the fear-mongering media coverage. For a little perspective, there have been 1200-1300 deaths in Florida with Sars Cov2 in a population of roughly 22 million souls

rhand48 05-03-2020 08:59 AM
The image of a lemming... just sayin

BamaBoy451 05-03-2020 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Golfer in Sanibel (Post 1757990)
Please explain to me why I need a mask to pick up my mail when I am never within 15' of another.
The ones that wear a mask in their car or cart are the same ones that wear a condom to bed, alone. :1rotfl:

bilcon 05-03-2020 09:05 AM
You have been unmasked!

cdecco 05-03-2020 09:07 AM
I heard that they get $17,000 for each Covid-19 patient and only $6,000 for a flu patient. Now let's do the math from New York. No one is dying from much of anything, except Covid-19. The regular flu deaths are practically non-existent. Do you think the numbers are true for the Covid-19 death rate?

Joe C. 05-03-2020 09:14 AM
If I'm doing some fiberglass insulation, I wear a mask. If I'm in a dusty environment, I wear a mask. I do it to PROTECT MYSELF from inhaling unwanted particles. I don't wear it to protect you.

During this "pandemic" the reasoning is the same. And I don't go crazy if someone isn't wearing one. If I want protection, I'll go get one. Until then, I won't wear one.

90% of the people are over-reacting.
I used to think that the older we got, the wiser we got.
Reading TOTV, dispels this fantasy.

CarolSells 05-03-2020 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by cdecco (Post 1758010)
I heard that they get $17,000 for each Covid-19 patient and only $6,000 for a flu patient. Now let's do the math from New York. No one is dying from much of anything, except Covid-19. The regular flu deaths are practically non-existent. Do you think the numbers are true for the Covid-19 death rate?
Yesterday the CDC adjusted down the number of Covid-19 deaths from 64,283 to 37,308. In the US. They took out all of the deaths from other causes.
I’ve been saying for weeks that the numbers were cooked.

coffeebean 05-03-2020 09:26 AM
Wearing home made masks are recommended because they do provide a degree of protection from droplets which are spewed into the air when someone speaks, sneezes or coughs.

My mask protects you and your mask protects me. Here is a quick video which demonstrates why wearing home made masks are protective.

How a mask blocks droplets - YouTube

coffeebean 05-03-2020 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Shoelaces (Post 1757936)
Somewhere between hugs with strangers and hazmat suits is where you'll find me
Thank you for the chuckle.:)

coffeebean 05-03-2020 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by devorejh (Post 1757939)
Nope...
Agree. I will not be wearing a mask outside. Sorry folks. That is over kill and not necessary when maintaining social distancing.

I will continue to wear a mask indoors in public spaces and will do my best to maintain proper social distancing.

Astron 05-03-2020 09:50 AM
You are only telling half of the story
 
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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1757581)
That's right---nothing has changed

The CDC guidance that states you should wear a mask IF unable to socially distance yourself 6 feet has not changed
The CDC guidelines “recommends wearing cloth face coverings in public settings where other social distancing measures are difficult to maintain (e.g., grocery stores and pharmacies), especially in areas of significant community-based transmission.”
You left out the second part: “CDC also advises the use of simple cloth face coverings to slow the spread of the virus and help people who may have the virus and do not know it from transmitting it to others.”

coffeebean 05-03-2020 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by merrymini (Post 1757941)
I do not see why you would have to wear a mask outdoors where you are usually pretty far away from others. I have seen people wearing masks under their chin, under their nose, totally ineffective and the cloth masks are pretty much useless since viruses are so small they can enter through the holes of a cotton mask easily. So, if you believe that you can eliminate 100 per cent of the risk, you are fooling yourself.
Keep in mind, and this has been said many many times; the mask is not to protect the wearer. The mask is to protect others around the wearer of the mask. Now that I've reminded everyone of this fact, keep this in mind..........

Yes, the virus is small enough to penetrate the holes of a cotton fabric or any fabric mask for that matter. Having said that, the virus does not travel by itself. The virus needs a mode of transmission when traveling through the air. That mode of transmission is droplets which come out as a fine mist when a person speaks. The droplets also are spewed with more propulsion into the air when a person coughs or sneezes. Home made face masks have been proven to block the spray of droplets. Think about this.....why do we sneeze into a tissue? Because the tissue blocks the spray of droplets that come out of the sneezers mouth and nose.

Masks made out of fabric and filters such as paper towels and coffee filters, for example, stop those droplets from spraying onto the air and into someone's mouth and nose. Unfortunately, eyes are still vulnerable because the general public does not wear face shields. Eye glasses help with the droplet spray to the eyes with some degree but are not as effective as a face shield.

Bottom line is......your mask protects me and my mask protects you. My mask does not protect me but I surely hope you are wearing a mask so I'm protected too. You can be an asymptomatic carrier of this virus and not even know you are infecting others if you do not wear a mask.

coffeebean 05-03-2020 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Singerlady (Post 1757951)
I hope I never meet you. Let me know how this whole thing works out for you down the line.
The person you responded to with this response said he/she would not wear a mask OUTSIDE. How many people have you seen wearing masks OUTSIDE? I have seen as many as I can count on two fingers. I don't get it.

Now.....wearing a mask indoors in public spaces is a whole other ballgame.

coffeebean 05-03-2020 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Marylynn (Post 1757996)
I think wearing a mask makes others feel comfortable whether you’re six feet away or twenty feet away. Comfortable that others are being considerate.
Bull honkey. I'm still not ever going to wear a mask OUTDOORS when I can easily social distance safely.

coffeebean 05-03-2020 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe C. (Post 1758015)
If I'm doing some fiberglass insulation, I wear a mask. If I'm in a dusty environment, I wear a mask. I do it to PROTECT MYSELF from inhaling unwanted particles. I don't wear it to protect you.

During this "pandemic" the reasoning is the same. And I don't go crazy if someone isn't wearing one. If I want protection, I'll go get one. Until then, I won't wear one.

90% of the people are over-reacting.
I used to think that the older we got, the wiser we got.
Reading TOTV, dispels this fantasy.
Tell that to our health care workers who are on the front lines battling this enemy while we sit safely at home banging away on our computers. Health care workers are dying for us. Where have you been?

Grumpyoldvillager 05-03-2020 10:07 AM
I hold my breath when I go for the mail.

Marathon Man 05-03-2020 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1758028)
Agree. I will not be wearing a mask outside. Sorry folks. That is over kill and not necessary when maintaining social distancing.

I will continue to wear a mask indoors in public spaces and will do my best to maintain proper social distancing.
I agree completely with this.

I also where gloves in a store. I understand that this does nothing to protect me, and it can just as easily transport virus as a bare hand. However, if I take them off before getting in the car, my steering wheel stays clean. Not much, but it makes me feel better.

coffeebean 05-03-2020 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by CarolSells (Post 1758017)
Yesterday the CDC adjusted down the number of Covid-19 deaths from 64,283 to 37,308. In the US. They took out all of the deaths from other causes.
I’ve been saying for weeks that the numbers were cooked.
Are the deaths the CDC took out of the numbers patients who died of their underlying conditions but also had Covid?

For example.....the person who died from a heart attack with a history of CAD but was also positive for Covid. Is that correct?

Baywayric 05-03-2020 10:23 AM
:agree::BigApplause:
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Originally Posted by rhand48 (Post 1757870)
I approve these stolen thoughts:

1. I don't wear a facemask because...It's the perfect breeding ground for bacteria that can end up in your mouth and down into your lungs (hello upper respiratory infection anyone!?)

2. I don't wear gloves because... I have enough brains to realize I'd have to change gloves everytime I touched something else, otherwise it's just cross contamination with the same gloves...

3. I do social distancing because...I respect others personal space, but not because I'm afraid of my fellow Americans or neighbors. In fact, I'll happily hug someone right now in public if it was a mutual feeling. Hugging also releases endorphins which uplifts mood and relieves stress...there's a bunch of stress going on right now.

4. I don't get the flu vaccine because...(in regards to coronavirus) I don't want to increase my chances of getting an upper respiratory illness including 4 strains of coronavirus by 36%.

5. I won't get tested even if I show symptoms because...I already know they will label it Covid19 without an actual test and I'll be added to the jaded numbers increasing panic over something I may or may not truly have...plus they'll just tell me to go home and walk it off...but rest assured I have brains enough to stay home and away from people when sick or have symptoms of being sick.

6. I wash my hands with soap and water because...well, that's just common sense.

7. I WILL NOT GET THE COVID19 VACCINE! The gov has never mandated a vaccine and I'll be damned if they make me put something in my body, that was created in less than 2 weeks of this "outbreak". I'm not a sheep and will not be manipulated by the gov into thinking they have our best interest.

8. I will not live in fear. If you want to stay in your house and never go out because you are "doing the right thing" that's fine, that's you. But I'm not going to let the media scare me into mass panic. That's what they want, to shut this country down and they’re doing it right in front of your face. I will continue to go out and support locals as much as possible. I will not live in fear!
Start researching...you have all the time in the world. Turn off the news and start researching from sources that have NO financial gain or conflict of interest...you will learn quite a bit, and you will realize you've been lied to and manipulated.

*copied and pasted, feel free to do the same!*

Jazzman 05-03-2020 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Manhoopty (Post 1757980)
And STILL we can’t get this damn virus up to a one percent death rate,,,! Dammit, That’s gotta Really make people mad.....
Only the members of the media who ignore the economic side where there are now over 27 million unemployed.

Jazzman 05-03-2020 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1758055)
Are the deaths the CDC took out of the numbers patients who died of their underlying conditions but also had Covid?

For example.....the person who died from a heart attack with a history of CAD but was also positive for Covid. Is that correct?
There have been reports for a few weeks by physicians who were being directed to list all deaths in the hospital environment as covid deaths regardless of other existing conditions and regardless of the degree of intensity of the virus upon admisssion.

NoMoSno 05-03-2020 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by CarolSells (Post 1758017)
Yesterday the CDC adjusted down the number of Covid-19 deaths from 64,283 to 37,308. In the US. They took out all of the deaths from other causes.
I’ve been saying for weeks that the numbers were cooked.
I agree.
I have a SIL who is a head nurse at a Detroit hospital.
Had a patient that came in with no C-19 symptoms, tested negative for C-19 but died from heart failure.
It was falsely listed as a C-19 death.

msilagy 05-03-2020 10:42 AM
Question - if a good mask - one that you cannot shine a light thru - doesn't protect people than why do healthcare workers wear them when treating Covid patients? to protect the Covid patients from getting Covid - or to protect the healthcare worker from getting Covid? C'mon people - common sense!!!!!

Astoeckle 05-03-2020 10:43 AM
It’s the great Florida outdoors. This virus survives for barely a minute in the UV of the bright Florida sun. No need for masks that offer little more protection than merely psychological.

worahm 05-03-2020 10:48 AM
Who is that mask man? Hi O Silver Away!!!!!!

PugMom 05-03-2020 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by devorejh (Post 1757942)
They absolutely are not. What the heck are you watching?
agreed. desantis went over the numbers in reality as opposed to what the WHO predicted. off by over 200,000

cathy p 05-03-2020 11:08 AM
I will think you are an idiot.

Katieburr 05-03-2020 11:42 AM
Oh my gosh. Are you one of those people who would rather be dead than have your “rights” violated? Or are you in the group who thinks it’s all a hoax? And what are you so angry about? Everyone here is capable of making their own decisions. Me? I just prefer to stay alive.


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