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coffeebean 05-03-2020 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Tyrone Shoelaces (Post 1757936)
Somewhere between hugs with strangers and hazmat suits is where you'll find me

Thank you for the chuckle.:)

coffeebean 05-03-2020 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by devorejh (Post 1757939)
Nope...

Agree. I will not be wearing a mask outside. Sorry folks. That is over kill and not necessary when maintaining social distancing.

I will continue to wear a mask indoors in public spaces and will do my best to maintain proper social distancing.

Astron 05-03-2020 09:50 AM

You are only telling half of the story
 
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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1757581)
That's right---nothing has changed

The CDC guidance that states you should wear a mask IF unable to socially distance yourself 6 feet has not changed

The CDC guidelines “recommends wearing cloth face coverings in public settings where other social distancing measures are difficult to maintain (e.g., grocery stores and pharmacies), especially in areas of significant community-based transmission.”
You left out the second part: “CDC also advises the use of simple cloth face coverings to slow the spread of the virus and help people who may have the virus and do not know it from transmitting it to others.”

coffeebean 05-03-2020 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by merrymini (Post 1757941)
I do not see why you would have to wear a mask outdoors where you are usually pretty far away from others. I have seen people wearing masks under their chin, under their nose, totally ineffective and the cloth masks are pretty much useless since viruses are so small they can enter through the holes of a cotton mask easily. So, if you believe that you can eliminate 100 per cent of the risk, you are fooling yourself.

Keep in mind, and this has been said many many times; the mask is not to protect the wearer. The mask is to protect others around the wearer of the mask. Now that I've reminded everyone of this fact, keep this in mind..........

Yes, the virus is small enough to penetrate the holes of a cotton fabric or any fabric mask for that matter. Having said that, the virus does not travel by itself. The virus needs a mode of transmission when traveling through the air. That mode of transmission is droplets which come out as a fine mist when a person speaks. The droplets also are spewed with more propulsion into the air when a person coughs or sneezes. Home made face masks have been proven to block the spray of droplets. Think about this.....why do we sneeze into a tissue? Because the tissue blocks the spray of droplets that come out of the sneezers mouth and nose.

Masks made out of fabric and filters such as paper towels and coffee filters, for example, stop those droplets from spraying onto the air and into someone's mouth and nose. Unfortunately, eyes are still vulnerable because the general public does not wear face shields. Eye glasses help with the droplet spray to the eyes with some degree but are not as effective as a face shield.

Bottom line is......your mask protects me and my mask protects you. My mask does not protect me but I surely hope you are wearing a mask so I'm protected too. You can be an asymptomatic carrier of this virus and not even know you are infecting others if you do not wear a mask.

coffeebean 05-03-2020 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Singerlady (Post 1757951)
I hope I never meet you. Let me know how this whole thing works out for you down the line.

The person you responded to with this response said he/she would not wear a mask OUTSIDE. How many people have you seen wearing masks OUTSIDE? I have seen as many as I can count on two fingers. I don't get it.

Now.....wearing a mask indoors in public spaces is a whole other ballgame.

coffeebean 05-03-2020 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Marylynn (Post 1757996)
I think wearing a mask makes others feel comfortable whether you’re six feet away or twenty feet away. Comfortable that others are being considerate.

Bull honkey. I'm still not ever going to wear a mask OUTDOORS when I can easily social distance safely.

coffeebean 05-03-2020 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe C. (Post 1758015)
If I'm doing some fiberglass insulation, I wear a mask. If I'm in a dusty environment, I wear a mask. I do it to PROTECT MYSELF from inhaling unwanted particles. I don't wear it to protect you.

During this "pandemic" the reasoning is the same. And I don't go crazy if someone isn't wearing one. If I want protection, I'll go get one. Until then, I won't wear one.

90% of the people are over-reacting.
I used to think that the older we got, the wiser we got.
Reading TOTV, dispels this fantasy.

Tell that to our health care workers who are on the front lines battling this enemy while we sit safely at home banging away on our computers. Health care workers are dying for us. Where have you been?

Grumpyoldvillager 05-03-2020 10:07 AM

I hold my breath when I go for the mail.

Marathon Man 05-03-2020 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1758028)
Agree. I will not be wearing a mask outside. Sorry folks. That is over kill and not necessary when maintaining social distancing.

I will continue to wear a mask indoors in public spaces and will do my best to maintain proper social distancing.

I agree completely with this.

I also where gloves in a store. I understand that this does nothing to protect me, and it can just as easily transport virus as a bare hand. However, if I take them off before getting in the car, my steering wheel stays clean. Not much, but it makes me feel better.

coffeebean 05-03-2020 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by CarolSells (Post 1758017)
Yesterday the CDC adjusted down the number of Covid-19 deaths from 64,283 to 37,308. In the US. They took out all of the deaths from other causes.
I’ve been saying for weeks that the numbers were cooked.

Are the deaths the CDC took out of the numbers patients who died of their underlying conditions but also had Covid?

For example.....the person who died from a heart attack with a history of CAD but was also positive for Covid. Is that correct?

Baywayric 05-03-2020 10:23 AM

:agree::BigApplause:
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Originally Posted by rhand48 (Post 1757870)
I approve these stolen thoughts:

1. I don't wear a facemask because...It's the perfect breeding ground for bacteria that can end up in your mouth and down into your lungs (hello upper respiratory infection anyone!?)

2. I don't wear gloves because... I have enough brains to realize I'd have to change gloves everytime I touched something else, otherwise it's just cross contamination with the same gloves...

3. I do social distancing because...I respect others personal space, but not because I'm afraid of my fellow Americans or neighbors. In fact, I'll happily hug someone right now in public if it was a mutual feeling. Hugging also releases endorphins which uplifts mood and relieves stress...there's a bunch of stress going on right now.

4. I don't get the flu vaccine because...(in regards to coronavirus) I don't want to increase my chances of getting an upper respiratory illness including 4 strains of coronavirus by 36%.

5. I won't get tested even if I show symptoms because...I already know they will label it Covid19 without an actual test and I'll be added to the jaded numbers increasing panic over something I may or may not truly have...plus they'll just tell me to go home and walk it off...but rest assured I have brains enough to stay home and away from people when sick or have symptoms of being sick.

6. I wash my hands with soap and water because...well, that's just common sense.

7. I WILL NOT GET THE COVID19 VACCINE! The gov has never mandated a vaccine and I'll be damned if they make me put something in my body, that was created in less than 2 weeks of this "outbreak". I'm not a sheep and will not be manipulated by the gov into thinking they have our best interest.

8. I will not live in fear. If you want to stay in your house and never go out because you are "doing the right thing" that's fine, that's you. But I'm not going to let the media scare me into mass panic. That's what they want, to shut this country down and they’re doing it right in front of your face. I will continue to go out and support locals as much as possible. I will not live in fear!
Start researching...you have all the time in the world. Turn off the news and start researching from sources that have NO financial gain or conflict of interest...you will learn quite a bit, and you will realize you've been lied to and manipulated.

*copied and pasted, feel free to do the same!*


Jazzman 05-03-2020 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Manhoopty (Post 1757980)
And STILL we can’t get this damn virus up to a one percent death rate,,,! Dammit, That’s gotta Really make people mad.....

Only the members of the media who ignore the economic side where there are now over 27 million unemployed.

Jazzman 05-03-2020 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1758055)
Are the deaths the CDC took out of the numbers patients who died of their underlying conditions but also had Covid?

For example.....the person who died from a heart attack with a history of CAD but was also positive for Covid. Is that correct?

There have been reports for a few weeks by physicians who were being directed to list all deaths in the hospital environment as covid deaths regardless of other existing conditions and regardless of the degree of intensity of the virus upon admisssion.

NoMoSno 05-03-2020 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by CarolSells (Post 1758017)
Yesterday the CDC adjusted down the number of Covid-19 deaths from 64,283 to 37,308. In the US. They took out all of the deaths from other causes.
I’ve been saying for weeks that the numbers were cooked.

I agree.
I have a SIL who is a head nurse at a Detroit hospital.
Had a patient that came in with no C-19 symptoms, tested negative for C-19 but died from heart failure.
It was falsely listed as a C-19 death.

msilagy 05-03-2020 10:42 AM

Question - if a good mask - one that you cannot shine a light thru - doesn't protect people than why do healthcare workers wear them when treating Covid patients? to protect the Covid patients from getting Covid - or to protect the healthcare worker from getting Covid? C'mon people - common sense!!!!!


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