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Two Bills 03-13-2020 04:45 PM

One of the reasons UK has not yet 'shut down for business' is the experts do not expect the virus to peak until about June, and at the moment, containment is a better option than lockdown.
With that amount of time in lockdown, they believe people will be so p***ed off, they will start back to work, socialise etc, long before the peak and most infectious period is reached.
One of the very good reasons for not shutting schools, was that many parents in work would use grandparents as baby sitters.
That would put the least vulnerable, with the most vulnerable.
Whether our medical experts and health stategists are right, we will have to wait and see.

Packer Fan 03-13-2020 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1727219)
Until it’s one of your dear old one that gets it, right?

Yeah, my 85 year old dad almost died 6 weeks ago from RSV and Pnuemonia that started as the common cold...... glad he did not. That is why I know this is hystaria, it is nothing new. Covid-19 make people who are elderly or weak more suseptible to other things like that - just like colds and the FLU. What ****es me off is the people who are all concerned about this that don't get a FLU shot every year..

Velvet 03-13-2020 04:47 PM

Agree with Packer Fan.

EdFNJ 03-13-2020 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1727244)
With me, it’s Formula one. I was really looking forwards to it too!

My granddaughter in NJ had a high school senior trip next week to Disney for 5 days they have been paying for since they were freshmen. Disney (as of now) won't even give a refund, only a "credit" for the park & hotel due to the rate. Almost 500 kids who after school is out in June will be going in all different directions so they can't possibly reschedule and even if it reopened in 2-3 weeks there would be no availability + chartering 2 planes etc. They haven't heard yet if even charter flights will be refunded. Teachers are working on it but there is a lot of money to be lost.

I also wonder if they will extend our yearly pass which expires June 1st.

sheena0904 03-13-2020 06:23 PM

The Villages is the only justifiable place for people to be nervous. Pretty much everyone is old and have underlying issues so I don’t blame The Villages. It’s the rest of the world that’s acting ridiculous.

rustyp 03-13-2020 07:29 PM

I'm taking my lane and enforcing the three foot rule.

skyking 03-13-2020 07:58 PM

When they close the bars I will know it is serious

Drdoug49 03-14-2020 05:25 AM

The villages and this forum are filled with deniers, at least the president reversed course and declared a national state of emergency

golfing eagles 03-14-2020 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Drdoug49 (Post 1727420)
The villages and this forum are filled with deniers, at least the president reversed course and declared a national state of emergency

So, in your opinion, the people who are panicking, scared and hoarding TP are right; the people who advocate a more sensible approach, common sense and moderate caution (the deniers according to you) are wrong)
Hmmmmmm

Oh, but......according to the CDC so far this season

Covid-19-------1,629 cases, 41 deaths
Influenza A&B---36,000,000 cases, 22,000 deaths

Gee, I think I should join the panicked hoarders, maybe I can follow a TP truck around to its destination, kind of like the oil embargo of 1973

fsusix 03-14-2020 05:45 AM

Thank you - so much appreciate you sharing!!

cwhitecat 03-14-2020 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1727242)
I find all the excuses for not taking this virus seriously, pathetic, and it would be funny except for the possible consequences to vulnerable folks. Some of us were born with no frontal lobes, I guess.

There is a difference between taking it seriously and being in panic mode.

MandoMan 03-14-2020 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Laker (Post 1727218)
As of March 6 the Center for Disease Control estimated that 20,000 Americans have died so far in this flu season.

About 40 people have died so far in the US from coronavirus, mostly elderly.

Has the media mentioned the 20,000 dead, to put this hysterical reaction into perspective?

Nope. Bad news sells newspapers, and the MSM is raking it in over this ridiculous "shut down the country" reaction to coronavirus. And the sheeple are buying it...

Pretty sad, isn't it?

Here is the BEST case death estimate from the Centers for Disease Control, yesterday, assuming the whole country does its best to self-quarantine and the disease isn’t nearly as bad as feared:
“ Dr. Lawler’s calculations suggested 480,000 deaths, which he said was conservative. By contrast, about 20,000 to 50,000 people have died from flu-related illnesses this season, according to the C.D.C. Unlike with seasonal influenza, the entire population is thought to be susceptible to the new coronavirus.”
I got that here a few minutes ago:
Worst-Case Estimates for U.S. Coronavirus Deaths - The New York Times

golfing eagles 03-14-2020 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Choro&Swing (Post 1727428)
Here is the BEST case death estimate from the Centers for Disease Control, yesterday, assuming the whole country does its best to self-quarantine and the disease isn’t nearly as bad as feared:
“ Dr. Lawler’s calculations suggested 480,000 deaths, which he said was conservative. By contrast, about 20,000 to 50,000 people have died from flu-related illnesses this season, according to the C.D.C. Unlike with seasonal influenza, the entire population is thought to be susceptible to the new coronavirus.”
I got that here a few minutes ago:
Worst-Case Estimates for U.S. Coronavirus Deaths - The New York Times

Seriously????

OK, "worst case scenarios":

The near Earth asteroid that will pass by in 2038 makes a direct hit and destroys the planet

Weaponized smallpox escapes from a level 4 containment lab and kills 3 billion worldwide

N. Korea has a falling out with Iran and start a nuclear exchange that ignites WWIII

Who is this Lawler clown anyway????
He thinks 480,000 deaths is conservative?
The Spanish flu in 1918-1919, the worst epidemic in the modern era, killed between 500,000 and 675,000 Americans. And that was during a world war with troops in trenches, no ICU's , no ventilators, no antibiotics and no antivirals.
Either he is the Village Idiot at the CDC, or perhaps he was talking worldwide deaths

BTW, I can't find Lawler or his prediction on the CDC website. This is apparently what the NY Times said he predicted, and we all know what that means.

rustyp 03-14-2020 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1727430)
Seriously????

OK, "worst case scenarios":

The near Earth asteroid that will pass by in 2038 makes a direct hit and destroys the planet

Weaponized smallpox escapes from a level 4 containment lab and kills 3 billion worldwide

N. Korea has a falling out with Iran and start a nuclear exchange that ignites WWIII

Who is this Lawler clown anyway????
He thinks 480,000 deaths is conservative?
The Spanish flu in 1918-1919, the worst epidemic in the modern era, killed between 500,000 and 675,000 Americans. And that was during a world war with troops in trenches, no ICU's , no ventilators, no antibiotics and no antivirals.
Either he is the Village Idiot at the CDC, or perhaps he was talking worldwide deaths

BTW, I can't find Lawler or his prediction on the CDC website. This is apparently what the NY Times said he predicted, and we all know what that means.

In 1918 the world population was 1.8 billion. The Spanish Flu infected an estimated 500 million which resulted in 50 million deaths.

The world population today is 7.8 billion - 7X the size it was in 1918 with mobility 1000 fold over 1918.

golfing eagles 03-14-2020 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 1727438)
In 1918 the world population was 1.8 billion. The Spanish Flu infected an estimated 500 million which resulted in 50 million deaths.

The world population today is 7.8 billion - 7X the size it was in 1918 with mobility 1000 fold over 1918.

And your point is...…..?
Other than 7x 1.8 billion is not 7.8 billion
Actually, you made my point---this guy was predicting about as many deaths from Covid 19 as the Spanish flu---do we think that is reasonable??????


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