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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2397453)

Yes, to me allowing Airbnb in a primarily residential community is unconscionable.

airbnb in a residential community is the definition of airbnb.

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2397464)

Either:
1. Florida law does not allow that; or,
2. It is not in the Developer's best interest to limit their customer base.

Ding, ding, ding, bingo! #2 is the winning answer. The entity that controls most everything, doesn’t want to put up any possible obstacle for any potential buyer of new homes. At the end of the day, that’s what it’s all about.

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2397464)

I'll bet a number of people reading these posts have been short-term renters in other places. I wonder if a number of those so vehemently against airbnbs in their backyards don't search out airbnbs when they travel.

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2397465)

airbnb in a residential community is the definition of airbnb.

AIRBnB’s have their appropriate place. Short term rentals in urban communities, operating in an area that is within harmony of the existing community! That’s not the case in the Villages, which is supposed to be a 55+ single family senior residential community. Non renting homeowners should be able to reasonably expect their neighborhood won’t get invaded by transient short term renters with absolutely no vested interest in the long term well being of their neighborhood. No matter how one tries to justify it, it’s just not right.

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2397465)

airbnb in a residential community is the definition of airbnb.

Residential means people who live in their homes (at their residences) most of the time. Airbnb is the opposite (transients) Airbnb and community residents are like oil and water and they mix about the same.

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2397490)

I think you will find the only people trying to justify Airbnbs are either the landlords who take full advantage of all the good things and goodwill the TV community has developed, for the landlord’s private profit, or the eager bargain-hunting transients.

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Originally Posted by charlie1 (Post 2397361)

Maybe we should come up with a word for people that are the root of what full time Villages think is the problem during the busy season.

Let me start out by saying I am a full time resident of the Villages and have been for 6 years. I love "part time residence" They pay their way just like us but only use the facilities part time. Sure they come during the winter but they could be here all year. I really enjoy the lack of crowds during the summer so this is all good to me! After the first year, I am sure they pretty much understand the way the Villages works and know how to navigate not only the roads, multimodel paths, and activities. They blend in easily having resident friends, etc.

Where I think the problem lies is the people that rent for a day, week, month, etc. This is not their home and they seem to treat the Villages that way. They do not understand, for the most part, the concept of the multimodel paths, the traffic circles, the activities, etc. In a way, I totally can't blame them because there is really no good way to learn without experience in the Villages or through some resident programs that are available.

What would be a good name to give this group of people. I do not like that they are grouped with Snow Birds! What would your suggestion be to call this group!

In my opinion someone who feels their 'Home' is NOT the Villages is someone I would consider a Snow Bird. When someone is 'away' from home their main thoughts and concerns are still with their 'Home' and not with the place they are currently staying. There may even be some who live here full time but still do not concider it 'Home'. I think the difference we see in people residing in the Villages centers around this concept of where one considers 'Home'.

Somewhat like the term 'What hapens in Vegas, stays in Vegas' what people who don't consider the Villages as 'Home' do and how they 'act' in the Villages does not have the significance that it would if they were at 'Home'. They may act out of character feeling that it does not affect their life at 'Home'.

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2397489)

The developer’s best interest is selling homes to homeowners. Because after all the homes are sold in a CDD, the developer has on interest in the homes in the CDD. It is the homeowners, who don’t occupy the homes full time that rent out their home, best interest to rent out their property. Perhaps there should be a rule of no rentals under a one month period. That could be the “price of ownership”.

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Originally Posted by charlie1 (Post 2397361)

Maybe we should come up with a word for people that are the root of what full time Villages think is the problem during the busy season.

How about "people", or "neighbors"? Maybe it would be nice to stop using labels that are just indicators of bias.

When we moved here, we had just a room for two weeks, then a home for April through October while we designed and built our permanent residence. We appreciated both owners. In the longer term residence, we were even allowed to use the mailbox.

We stayed here several times on our way to discovering that we wanted to retire here starting with a Life Style ™ visit.

During all of our visits, we never observed the unfriendliness suggested here. Have a happier new year!

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2397415)

Transients, and the shorter the time they stay, the worse they tend to be. We have good friends who rent long term (3 months or longer) who blend right in with the birds, flakes, and frogs.

What is meant by "frogs?"

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Originally Posted by SoCalGal (Post 2397507)

What is meant by "frogs?"

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...og-mean-42424/

Laws can be passed that require a landlord to be in the premises when renting just like a hotel with a clerk. One could rent out their home till they were blue in the face, but would have to live there while doing so in case of problems.

I agree the irresponsible short term renter/parasites should be eliminated.

G= Guest
N= New
A= And/in
T= Training
S= Status

AB&B is everywhere now, and just another fact of life.
In the small village where I live in UK, AB&B property numbers are growing each year.
When some of the larger properties can make up to $1000 a night, and smaller ones $300-$500 a night, it is big business.
Locals are priced out of the house market, as property investors snap up any reasonable property at crazy prices.

How about "Ninety day wonders"

So what’s worse ? Very short term renters or residents who allow their criminal relatives to live in their house.

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Originally Posted by Tustin714 (Post 2397398)

Not to sound churlish, but since we have snowbirds, snowflakes and frogs, how about mosquitos for the ones you feel are the short-term pests?

Before moving here, we were snowbirds out west, spending winters in Lake Havasu City AZ (LHC) and summers in the mountains north of Lake Tahoe. LHC was a snowbird haven for folks from every state with winter snow, plus Canada. The LHC chamber of commerce had a good PR staff and was supportive of the snowbirds. Unlike most of the comments here, they wanted to encourage snowbirds, so they decided to start a campaign for the community to call them "Winter Visitors" instead. They got the local radio stations and newspaper to use the term and after a couple of years it caught on and everyone was using it. I thought it was pandering and preferred the term snowbird, so we continued to call ourselves that.
This is not really what the OP is looking for with this post, I just thought I would throw it in because it's still dark outside and I don't have anything else to do right now.