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Skunky1 02-12-2021 06:20 AM

These roundabouts remind me of European vacation.

golfing eagles 02-12-2021 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1900427)
Yes, but the blue car at the top SHOULD NOT EVEN CONSIDER ENTERING THE RB until traffic in both lanes has cleared. He may intend to turn into the first exit in the outer lane, but the car in the RB already may have come from the first entrance to his left and intend to (legally) go straight to the same exit

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Originally Posted by Hiltongrizz11 (Post 1900805)
WRONG! Nobody should stop

WHAT!!!!. Drive much???????
I feel sorry for anyone who never stops entering a RB when an 18 wheeler is coming around. Of course you HAVE to stop when traffic is coming. Another example of people not understanding a VERY simple concept of navigating the RBs

Have you noticed that triangular YIELD sign at the entrance to all the RBs???? It is NOT a suggestion and it is NOT there for decoration. I just hope I corrected the misconception posted before someone gets killed.

J1ceasar 02-12-2021 06:39 AM

You hit the nail on the head, these roundabouts are way too small to work correctly and the speed of the cars are about 20 miles per hour too fast. I come from Jersey and the random pads are at least 100 or 200 ft across larger. Also it is ridiculous to say stay on the inside or staying on the outside Lane depending on where you get off the only safe way to drive them is to stay on the outside Lane make sure no one is next to you or trying to come in when you're going around. I really wish they would have some lights

banjobob 02-12-2021 06:40 AM

Best answer yet, and never be side by side with another car .

Joerogers723 02-12-2021 06:41 AM

By making up your own rules, you will certainly create a future accident with someone that does follow the standard rules.

J1ceasar 02-12-2021 06:43 AM

This is why there should be no roundabouts and we should just have traffic lights. Everybody is an idiot when they're driving and I don't know anyone over the age of 50 that can change lanes three times in the space of 100 ft safely

golfing eagles 02-12-2021 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by J1ceasar (Post 1900823)
You hit the nail on the head, these roundabouts are way too small to work correctly and the speed of the cars are about 20 miles per hour too fast. I come from Jersey and the random pads are at least 100 or 200 ft across larger. Also it is ridiculous to say stay on the inside or staying on the outside Lane depending on where you get off the only safe way to drive them is to stay on the outside Lane make sure no one is next to you or trying to come in when you're going around. I really wish they would have some lights

So, are you advocating staying in the outside lane to go to the third (270 degree) exit? Sounds like it. Please post a schedule of when and where you will be navigating the RBs so the other 129,999 of can avoid the area.

banjobob 02-12-2021 06:46 AM

I think that if the roundabouts were traffic lights in season the villages would become a giant parking lot. Check traffic backups at Morse and 466 ,traffic flow around El Camino Real roundabout and imagine what it would be with traffic light and all the turn signal wait times. Thank God we have roundabouts.

golfing eagles 02-12-2021 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by J1ceasar (Post 1900828)
This is why there should be no roundabouts and we should just have traffic lights. Everybody is an idiot when they're driving and I don't know anyone over the age of 50 that can change lanes three times in the space of 100 ft safely

Still don't get it? There is NO NEED to change lanes in a RB (if you know what the rules are and not making up your own). As far as EVERYBODY being an idiot, I'm not, but I can name at least one driver who is........

golfing eagles 02-12-2021 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by banjobob (Post 1900831)
I think that if the roundabouts were traffic lights in season the villages would become a giant parking lot. Check traffic backups at Morse and 466 ,traffic flow around El Camino Real roundabout and imagine what it would be with traffic light and all the turn signal wait times. Thank God we have roundabouts.

It would be a nightmare.

I hate government regulation, but based on the posts in this thread, I would be willing to advocate a special written and road test just for navigating RBs in TV, with a license endorsement. You fail, you use your golf cart inside the bubble, and if leaving the bubble have a friend drive your car to the city limit and meet him there.

People who like Draconian solutions would LOVE this one:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Girlcopper 02-12-2021 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1900424)
All true, and add
***watch out for drivers going the wrong way in the RB
***watch out for cyclists in a pack of 20 blowing through the yield sign as if they were one entity
***beware non-street legal golf carts cutting across lanes in front of you
***beware cars going 270 around the RB in the outer lane, and cars exiting at 90 from the inner lane
***Be especially concerned if a car with out of state handicapped plates is approaching the entrance to the RB
***and my favorite, beware the driver who just stops dead in the middle of a RB, usually just far enough ahead that you can't see her around the circle

Enjoy your drive today!:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

A very accurate post!!

noslices1 02-12-2021 06:55 AM

Single lane?
 
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Originally Posted by boxcarwilly (Post 1900410)
IMOP....too compact to be safe..drivers are more confused than a goat on astroturf.:MOJE_whot: I treat all roundabouts like a single lane rotary and use a turn signal when exiting.

You can treat them like a single lane rotary if you still follow the rules and only turn right or go straight from the right hand lane, and only go straight or turn left or make a U-turn from the left-hand lane. Other than that, you are doing it wrong.

MandoMan 02-12-2021 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DeanFL (Post 1900416)
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My #1 rule re roundabouts.

Keep eyes and head on a swivel, NEVER go side-by-side with another vehicle, distrust all signals etc, NEVER assume that the vehicle will stop before entering the roundabout as you're approaching them, be ready to brake at any time, and ALWAYS assume the worst from other drivers.
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Correct. The two land roundabouts work great for everyone who pays attention and stays in the lane without clipping corners. They save so much time! But they require constant alertness. I usually can merge at 20 mph and rarely need to stop, but my reaction speed is fast. Plenty of people here don’t react that quickly. Yesterday I got behind someone who actually stopped at all roundabouts when there was NO oncoming traffic. I always need to be alert for people like that. Don’t ever change lanes IN a roundabout. Figure out which lane you need before you enter the roundabout and stay in it. I think the roundabouts in The Villages are marvels of clarity and good design. “Clarity and good design” are not always attributes of the minds of drivers, unfortunately.

Surf Daddy 02-12-2021 06:59 AM

I can make it simpler. "Just don't get hit"

Girlcopper 02-12-2021 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Arctic Fox (Post 1900514)
This is the key, along with indicating your intention to exit the roundabout.

Give others room to move - if you are in the outside lane and someone is in the inside lane and wants to turn right, it is up to you to let them do so.

Having both lanes of Buena Vista merge into one before every roundabout would result in far more accidents.

Morse Blvd roundabout just east of 441 is survival of the fittest. Cars just go lane to lane looking like they dont know where they want to turn or else they dont know how to maintain a lane. Ive had them cut in front of me almost taking my bumper off, had them stop for no apparent reason causing me to almost bond with them, honk at me when Im in my lane, bikers just come zipping by like they own the road, golf cart drivers just stare straight ahead and go. I guess if they act like they dont see you it gives them right of way. Roundabouts arent difficult. Many times its just inconsideration


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