Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2001060)

Not unless you're immunocompromised and get disseminated Zoster, in which case you are dead.

Originally Posted by DonnaNi4os (Post 2001154)

You can only get shingles if you have had chicken pox. It lives dormant in your body. Shingles has nothing whatsoever to do with measles!

Originally Posted by Blueblaze (Post 2001086)

Really? When I got Covid, I treated myself at home. I took antihistamines and aspirin and in about three days I was good as new -- just like the rest of the 99.6% of people who survive it.

Measles is actually MORE virulent than Covid, among people who have no natural immunity. It's estimated that nearly 90% of the indigenous population of America was wiped out by Measles from contact with the early Spanish explorers, before North America was even colonized.

The weirdest thing about this pandemic is that almost nobody seems to know any actual victims personally. I was born in the middle of a polio pandemic. My parents had friends who lost children. I went to school with crippled survivors. But even though I live in a community of old people at high risk from Covid, two years into this pandemic, I still don't personally know a single victim. However, I do have a neighbor who had a stroke the day after she got her Covid shot. I don't think that counts, though.

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2001157)

You must really like the latest Texas abortion law. Far less people using gasoline lawn mowers.:sad:

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2001168)

IF, IF, and IF, "nobody seems to know any actual victims personally" (of the Pandemic).......then, that monoclonal antibody treatment center at the Brownwood square MUST be vacant and gathering dust from NO patients.

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2001151)

Reported? By whom?

Originally Posted by RICH1 (Post 2000325)

I'm in my 60s and remember having the measles inoculation many years ago, are we still protected from the Measles?
Evidently these Afghans are bringing in measles and other diseases and are free to enter towns near the Bases! I'm hoping to get a Doctor to respond but I'm sure some expert will tackle this question

Originally Posted by JSR22 (Post 2001092)

Iknow dozens of people who had COVID including 6 on my street!

Originally Posted by blueash (Post 2000717)

My grandparents came to this country as unwashed immigrants, and the bigoted nativists even then screamed out that these dirty people were going to infect good Americans with diseases. Nothing has changed. The nativists are still using the same tropes and the same fear mongering against immigrants. We have had over 40 million immigrants alive in the US now, most entered outside the quota system.

Now tell me, how many infectious measles outbreaks have they caused, 40 million people. There was one in 2018 from a person from Ukraine. There was a large outbreak in an American born Orthodox Jewish NY community with a low vaccination rate and travel to Israel not immigrant related. Obviously this one could have been prevented by insisting on Americans being vaccinated before flying.

2017 an outbreak in US born Somalis in Minnesota, another vaccine refusing group.
2016 the only recent documented report in an immigrant group from the southern border.
There was a large outbreak in 2015 associated with visiting Disneyland in California. As the CDC reported:


The theme with measles is no different than that with Covid. While importation across our southern border is not zero, it is also not why we get outbreaks. Those who wish to blame our border policy lack evidence other than their confirmation bias layered on top of their nativist thinking.
And like Covid, get your shots as instructed by the experts at the CDC and you will overwhelmingly be protected.

What is the experience with measles in Texas, right at the epicenter of all those dirty unwashed illegals from countries with no shot requirement? The answer might be found on the Texas Department of health's website last updated March 2021

Originally Posted by Blueblaze (Post 2001186)

The definition of "victim" is YOU DIE. Did any of them die?

There's a 99.6% difference between "patient" and "victim". Practically everyone I know has, at a minimum, had a cold in the last two years, and most of them think it was probably Covid. My case actually tested positive for Covid.

The point is, we all know all these people who've had Covid, but almost nobody knows anyone who died.

That's pretty weird for a disease that caused us to crash our economy and quit educating our kids.

Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2001127)

Wow!
I learn something every day!:icon_wink:

Originally Posted by Alana33 (Post 2001184)

I'm 68.
I updated all my vaccinations last year.
Got vaccination for influenza and part 2 pneumonia, tetanus, diphtheria.
This year I received my covid shots and had to wait 60 days between my 1st shingles and 2nd vaccination and 2nd Covid. You can ask your doctor or pharmacist what you may require.

My Mom had shingles and it was extremely painful for her.
I grew up getting vaccinations.
So did most of us.
No vaccination, no going to school.
If you travel to different countries, certain vaccinations against disease are mandatory.
Many diseases have been eradicated and/or controlled thanks to science and preventative vaccines.

I'm far less concerned about "Afghans bringing measles and other diseases" than I am about Xenophobic American Antivaxxers who continue to spread ignorance, misinformation and this awful virus.

Originally Posted by Blueblaze (Post 2001186)

The definition of "victim" is YOU DIE. Did any of them die?

There's a 99.6% difference between "patient" and "victim". Practically everyone I know has, at a minimum, had a cold in the last two years, and most of them think it was probably Covid. My case actually tested positive for Covid.

The point is, we all know all these people who've had Covid, but almost nobody knows anyone who died.

That's pretty weird for a disease that caused us to crash our economy and quit educating our kids.