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shcisamax 03-10-2012 02:18 PM

The shallow end is 1 ft...let's say for purposes of doing the math. So the average depth would be 2.5 (6-1=5/2 right?). So you are saying multiply 14 x 28 x2.5 x 7.5? Which would be 7,350. So it takes 7,350 gallons of water (apx) to fill the pool? x $3.04 per thousand? skybo..that can't be right. Because it would cost $21.00 to fill the pool. Something isn't right. Handyman what is the correct answer here?

Bogie Shooter 03-10-2012 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by pqrstar (Post 464907)
The water that Niagra Bottling is pumping is from the Florida aquifer in Lake County.

This is under the St. John's water authority, but the water does not come from the St. Johns River.

It is close to 177 million gallons of ground water a year (484,000 gallons a day) from Lake County.

Water district’s conservation lectures — all bottled up – Taking Names the Blog – Orlando Sentinel

Groveland approves $1.35 million settlement with Niagara Bottling Co. in water war - Orlando Sentinel

Thanks for the correction.
However, any way you look at it, still Pxxxex me off.

Bogie Shooter 03-10-2012 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by shcisamax (Post 464961)
BTW: What is an average? monthly water bill? We have always been on well water so this is new to us. Also, we have been told we fill up the pool once it is built with a hose. Up here they truck in the water. ANyone know what sort of water bill you get when you fill a pool??? Outside of large? Looking for a number..:)

You will pay for the water and the sewer charge. That's the same way it was in western NY.
My pool builder said he stopped using trucked in water as he was getting a lot of rust and could not be assured of clean water.

Skybo 03-10-2012 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by shcisamax (Post 465255)
The shallow end is 1 ft...let's say for purposes of doing the math. So the average depth would be 2.5 (6-1=5/2 right?). So you are saying multiply 14 x 28 x2.5 x 7.5? Which would be 7,350. So it takes 7,350 gallons of water (apx) to fill the pool? x $3.04 per thousand? skybo..that can't be right. Because it would cost $21.00 to fill the pool. Something isn't right. Handyman what is the correct answer here?

No, the $3.04/thousand rate was for irrigation water, which I included in my answer to your question about average monthly water bills. I don’t think you’d use irrigation water to fill a pool, but I could be wrong...I don’t have a pool here.

I *think* (again I could be wrong) that the water that comes out of the hose is potable water, and that rate is $1.72/thousand. I used 2,650 gallons of potable water last month and it cost me $4.56 (plus the $8.06 base fee). Again, I don’t know if they would charge you sewer treatment fee on water that goes into a pool, but if they do, that rate is $4.12/thousand (on top of what you pay for the water).

To put it into perspective, my first month here (with brand new landscaping that had to be watered every day), I used 39,000 gallons of irrigation water, which is a higher rate than potable water, and that portion of my water bill was only $144.00.

I think your estimate on how much water it will take to fill your pool is a little low, but in any case, I don’t think it’s going to cost you as much to fill it as you might be expecting.

handyman 03-10-2012 03:19 PM

1ft shallow+6ft deep devide by 2=3.5x28x14=1372cuft x 7.5=10290 gals or a little more than an average semi tanker carries,to give you an idea of what 10000 gals looks like

zcaveman 03-10-2012 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by shcisamax (Post 465162)
Ha. Does anyone know how many gallons a 14x28 ft pool takes if the deep end is 6 ft? This is indisputably one of those volume questions that I got wrong on my geometry test in high school. Anyone able to get the answer? Really good exercise for the brain. :)

How deep is the shallow end and what is the grade of descent to the deep end? And assuming the pool is not on a straight vertical what is the length of the plateaus of the shallow end and the deep end?

With that information I can get my slide rule out and work on it.

shcisamax 03-10-2012 03:42 PM

For ease of computation, assume it is a straight constant line from the shallow end which is 1 ft. to the deep end which is 6 ft. Slide rule! Impressive.

applesoffh 03-10-2012 05:17 PM

When we moved to the Village of Charlotte in January, we were told by our builder that the water from the hose is NOT potable and we should not allow anyone or any animals to drink from it.

I don't have a pool, but knowing that info, why would you want to swim in the water that's used in your toilet bowl (also not potable)? Just asking...

Is the water different in other parts of TV?

shcisamax 03-10-2012 06:14 PM

Wow. I hardly know what to say. My understanding is that all pools are filled by your hose. I guess that is a great question to ask. Thanks.

Skybo 03-11-2012 08:49 AM

We need a plumber to step in here and clear this up
 
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Originally Posted by applesoffh (Post 465341)
When we moved to the Village of Charlotte in January, we were told by our builder that the water from the hose is NOT potable and we should not allow anyone or any animals to drink from it.

I don't have a pool, but knowing that info, why would you want to swim in the water that's used in your toilet bowl (also not potable)? Just asking...

Is the water different in other parts of TV?

Are you sure he wasn’t talking about the irrigation water (the water that comes out of the in-ground sprinkler system)?

I’m no plumber, but I believe that all household water is the same. The water that goes into your toilet bowl comes from the same place as the water that comes out of your kitchen sink, bathroom sinks, shower heads, washing machine and fills your ice maker. And I’m also pretty sure that it is the same water that comes out of your outside hoses.

shcisamax 03-11-2012 08:58 AM

I know they water the golf courses with irrigation water which means essentially it is sewage water. I don't know if that is what is in the houses for irrigation as well. It does make sense though. Do we have two sets of water meters? I hate to think we actually have to pay for sewage water. lol

Mikeod 03-11-2012 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by shcisamax (Post 465488)
I know they water the golf courses with irrigation water which means essentially it is sewage water. I don't know if that is what is in the houses for irrigation as well. It does make sense though. Do we have two sets of water meters? I hate to think we actually have to pay for sewage water. lol

The irrigation water is reclaimed water which is far from sewage water. It has been treated to a level just short of drinking quality which is why it is classed as non-potable. In Caroline, the outside hose bibs are the same as the interior water, i.e., potable. I suspect the other poster was being told about the irrigation water, not the water from the hose bibs.

Skybo 03-11-2012 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by shcisamax (Post 465488)
I know they water the golf courses with irrigation water which means essentially it is sewage water. I don't know if that is what is in the houses for irrigation as well. It does make sense though. Do we have two sets of water meters? I hate to think we actually have to pay for sewage water. lol

Yes we have two separate meters...one for household water and one for irrigation water. That was how I was able to give you the rate breakdowns a few posts earlier. And yes we pay for the irrigation water in our yards. It is collected and/or treated somewhat differently than the irrigation water on the golf courses, but I don’t know the specifics...I’ll let someone more knowledgeable explain the details of how that works.

Edited to add: Thanks Mike

Russ_Boston 03-11-2012 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 465272)
You will pay for the water and the sewer charge. That's the same way it was in western NY.
My pool builder said he stopped using trucked in water as he was getting a lot of rust and could not be assured of clean water.

My pool is about 14 X 30 with a 6ft deep end (it is somewhat kidney shaped). We had to refill it due to a couple of divots that needed sanding. The cost for the extra water to fill (from the exterior hose bibs, which is potable water, since they also don't like trucked in water) was $95. It came to 14100 extra gallons charged at the top rate since we had already filled it once. The pool company paid for the extra water since the divot was their problem. All Seasons Pools did the pool and we are very happy with their product and the service.

Russ_Boston 03-11-2012 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybo (Post 465485)
I’m no plumber, but I believe that all household water is the same. The water that goes into your toilet bowl comes from the same place as the water that comes out of your kitchen sink, bathroom sinks, shower heads, washing machine and fills your ice maker. And I’m also pretty sure that it is the same water that comes out of your outside hoses.

South of 466 this is exactly the case. The exterior house bibs are interior water (read my post above about the pool fill). Only the irrigation pipes are reclaimed water.


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